Business This Is What Happens When Hertz’s AI Scanner Finds Damage on Your Rental - BEEP BOOP MINOR DING DETECTED, FALESLY REPORTING VEHICLE AS STOLEN, DEPLOYING HERTZ DEATH SQUADS.

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Back in April, we reported on how Hertz was planning to employ artificial intelligence to scan vehicles before and after renters use them, to check for damages and issue associated charges. The AI system has been live now for a few months at select locations around the country, and one customer of Hertz-owned Thrifty reached out to The Drive to share his experience after one of the company’s scanners caught damage on his rental. Mind you, it wasn’t exactly an experience he enjoyed.

A reader named Patrick recently rented a Volkswagen from Hertz’s location at Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport in Atlanta, which was in fact the first store nationwide to use the tech. When he returned the car, he did so with a 1-inch scuff on the driver’s side rear wheel. Patrick says he was alerted to the damage “minutes” after dropping the VW off, and with it, charges for the blemish: $250 for the repair, $125 for processing, and another $65 administrative fee. That’s $440 all told, for curb rash on one wheel.

This is all relayed to renters like Patrick over a web app, and while it’s easy to guess what the repair fee is for, the other two are a bit more vague on the surface. Hertz defines the processing fee as “the cost to detect and estimate the damage that occurred during your rental.” The admin fee, meanwhile, “covers a portion of the costs [Hertz incurs] as a result of processing your claim.” Hertz is working with UVeye for this tech, an Israel-based company that is wholly focused on deploying AI to automate vehicle inspections.

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The web app presents customers with proof of the damage spotted by UVeye’s scanners, and allows them to compare that against an image of the same portion of the vehicle before they drove it. When Patrick was served with the bill, he was given the option to pay it right away. But here’s what’s interesting: He says Hertz was offering a $52 discount if he agreed to the terms and paid within two days, or a $32.50 discount if he paid within a week.

Patrick told The Drive that he wanted to inquire about the charge. Unfortunately, the chatbot system that Hertz uses for handling damage claims doesn’t currently allow a live, human agent to enter the conversation. What it can do is flag a claim, so that an agent reviews it later. After that point, an agent may reach out to the customer to discuss the issue, or the customer could ring up Thrifty’s normal support hotline to talk to a rep there. But that option wasn’t made clear to Patrick on the site, so he followed a “Contact Us” link to send Thrifty an email, which can take up to 10 days for a response. Remember: The discount only stands if you pay in seven days.

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The Drive reached out to Hertz to inquire about Patrick’s case, and ask some questions about Hertz’s AI scanning policies at large. A representative responded with the following statement: “The vast majority of rentals are incident-free. When damage does occur, our goal is to enhance the rental experience by bringing greater transparency, precision, and speed to the process. Digital vehicle inspections help deliver on that with clear, detailed documentation that is delivered more quickly, as well as a more technology-enabled resolution process.”

One of the questions I asked Hertz that the company didn’t answer was whether fees for customers who have incidents are higher when renting vehicles from Hertz stores that use UVeye scanners, as opposed to those that don’t. You’d think they would be more expensive, if indeed the processing fee pertains to “the cost to detect and estimate” blemishes sustained during rentals. As it stands, Hertz has no listed prices on its website for estimates of what different kinds of damage typically cost, so customers are kind of in the dark about this stuff until it happens.

At the time of publication, Patrick said he hadn’t paid yet and wouldn’t take the discount because “saving $30 to accept responsibility is not worth it,” he told me over email.

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Hertz using AI in this way represents new practices and protocols for the industry, and it’s something consumers will need time to adjust to. The company claims UVeye’s tech increases transparency when it comes to damage claims and, sure—you can see exactly what the scanners caught, and the turnaround is clearly quick. But this system has arguably introduced opacity when customers can’t easily talk to a live agent for questions or concerns, and the software is encouraging them to pay up as quickly as possible.

I’d argue it would go a long way for Hertz to incorporate live agents into its chatbot system, to ease some of the friction here. But whether or not it does, Patrick’s experience is the kind many car renters will likely have in increasing numbers, as more companies follow Hertz’s lead and incorporate AI into these inspections. As for Hertz itself, it expects to have scanners up and running at 100 of its roughly 1,600 U.S. airport locations by the end of this year.
 
I stopped renting cars from these assholes years ago. Reserved a minivan months in advance for a family trip. Touched base with them a week in advance of said trip. Went to pick it up and surprise no vehicle. But for 800 dollars more I could…
And that’s where I stopped them and told them kick rocks and die. So now they have AI to make the tiniest shit into cash for them? Yea nah I’m good.
 
I stopped renting cars from these assholes years ago. Reserved a minivan months in advance for a family trip. Touched base with them a week in advance of said trip. Went to pick it up and surprise no vehicle. But for 800 dollars more I could…
And that’s where I stopped them and told them kick rocks and die. So now they have AI to make the tiniest shit into cash for them? Yea nah I’m good.
I just got flashbanged by the seinfeld clip.

"THAT'S WHAT THE RESERVATION IS FOR!"

What the fuck do you mean there was no vehicle? You reserved it, that's what reserved means!!
 
Hertz/Dollar/Thrifty are the absolute worst fucking rentals you can fucking get. It's the rental for when you turn up in a flyover state at two in the morning and you have literally no other fucking options, or you're someone who is stupid as fuck and you only travel about as often as Haileys comet comes around and you have no idea what you are doing. Fuck, at this point I'd rather fucking walk than rent one of their shitbox cars again.

They nigger and jew you over everything and I question whether any of their staff they hire even know how to read or write. Wow! You're telling me that a 40,000+ mile rental Hyundai with tires more bald than my dad might have damage? Oh my god you don't fucking say! Oh you ordered an SUV size car? Here's a Kia Forte, that's an equivalent, right? Oh wait ooops our whole computer system went down! Again! Now you get to spend 2 hours waiting out in a blacktop parking lot because our tin shitshack of a rental office can only hold about five people inside it.

There's much better rental agencies out there. It doesn't take long to figure out who they are.
 
I had to rent a car a couple years ago for a one way trip from the Fort to Mama's House after I wrecked my car in a Walmart parking lot due to sun glare and secondarily being a nigger faggot driver. I went to the airport and persuaded Hertz to rent me a Nissan Sentra. Yeah, Nissans are shitboxes so the car rental companies love them. I got to Mama's just fine and when I dropped the shitbox off at the airport near her house the taconigger at the counter actually encouraged me to fully photograph the car with my phone. I didn't get it at the time (and it was 6am too) but then I read about Hertz fucking renters over in situations like this. If even the counter droids know about Hertz's shitty treatment of customers, well you can figure the rest.
 
There's no way Hertz is actually sending these vehicles in for repair jobs on these little scuffs. They're pocketing the money while sending the vehicle out with the scuff next time. When it gets scuffed up enough, they'll send it to someone for repairs, and the combined total will be far less than each individual was charged in aggregate. Scam all the way through.
 

Hertz’s AI Is At It Again Infuriating Customer, Company Stands Their Ground

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When we covered Hertz’s new AI-powered damage detector, we didn’t think our headline would be quite so prophetic. “No scratch or ding escapes,” was part of our title, and that’s proving to be oh so accurate. After stories about strange damage reports popped up in June and then again this month, one more person is telling their story. Once again, it sounds like Hertz is creating a huge distance from its customers over minuscule dings.

Hertz unveiled its AI-powered tech in the Atlanta area earlier this year. It takes a very sophisticated photo of every car when it leaves the lot. Then, when the car returns, it takes a second photo to confirm if there’s any damage. In theory, it’s an objective viewer of the vehicle, but it’s dinging customer wallets for dings most humans would miss.

That’s what Adam Foley, an AI & Automation strategist, says happened to him. Two hours after returning his rental, he received a bill from Hertz for $190 over two ‘damaged areas’. The company generously offered to let him off the hook for $125 if he paid up right away. ” This fee is literally the price of the entire 4-day rental minus $5,” he said in his LinkedIn post about the situation.

The damages we’re talking about aren’t what anyone would call serious. Foley shared one of the two images Hertz sent him and frankly, while there might indeed be a tiny new ding, the area is so small that it’s hard to be certain. So much for a fancy AI-powered camera, it seems. The detail in the photo is truly unremarkable.

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At this stage, Foley reached out to Hertz via its chat feature. Despite being an AI expert, he couldn’t get the AI-powered chat program to transfer him to a real human. “You are only given explanations for why you still owe $190. So Hertz new policy I guess is as long as a car does not appear to be brand new and spotless to AI cameras, the customer is going to pay,” he writes.

At this stage, he’s lost the option to pay the lower $125 fee, and in fact, it’s gone up because he hasn’t agreed to Hertz’s terms. Now, the company wants him to pay $190 for the damage and another $190 for processing and administration fees. As he puts it, he’s willing to let the market take revenge for him.

In theory, this idea could be good. The system, when working properly, can be objective and meticulous. “I want to be clear that I think this use of AI is kind of compelling – use cameras and AI to assess damages and communicate the expectation of payment,” Foley says. “It makes sense.” It takes the human factor out of the equation but there’s a good and a bad side to that and clearly, the results are skewed far toward the less-than-great end of the deal.


Hertz Responds

The rental car company was quick to follow up when we reached out for comment. Here’s what they told us:

“Over 97% of cars scanned with this technology show no billable damage, proving that the vast majority of rentals are incident-free. Vehicle damage has long been a common pain point across the car rental industry for customers and companies alike.

At Hertz, we’re using this technology to tackle this head-on. Our goal is to enhance the rental experience by ensuring customers are not charged for damage that didn’t occur during their rental, while bringing greater transparency, precision, and speed to the process when new damage is detected. As we continue rolling out this technology, we remain committed to ongoing innovation and continuous improvement. “


It also addressed Foley’s complaints regarding communication with something we didn’t expect. It says that when a customer flags an issue, a real person reviews it and then communicates their determination via the AI agent in the Hertz app. That might explain why Foley couldn’t reach a real person via that method. The company says it’s working to integrate real humans into the system.

Finally, it addressed Foley’s case directly:

“The customer’s escalation was manually reviewed, and it was confirmed that the dents were new. While we understand that some customers may hope for a different outcome, we want to ensure every case is handled fairly and objectively, using the best information available. We work hard to maintain the quality of our vehicles for all customers, and as is standard across the industry, renters are responsible for damage that occurs during their rental period.”
 
The detail in the photo is truly unremarkable.
Wait a car-focused site wrote this? That's clearly a dent repair light reflected off the car:
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Like it or not but when the lines go circle-y like that it's a dent. I wonder why there's only one image when the article says there was two damage areas? I'd also be surprised if Hertz doesn't include before pictures on their reports. I dislike Hertz but I'm finding it difficult not to dislike this "AI expert" just as much.
 
Quite frankly, tiny dents like this, hubcap damage, and scratches under the bottom of the car are just normal wear and tear and should be treated as such. I would not expect to be charged for these in a rental and should not be. These are not show cars. These rental agencies aren't waxing them and taking them out to car shows or Mecum's.

If there's a big scratch or dent that is so unsightly that the next renter would care or it affects the driveability (ie, a car door dented in so it sticks) then yeah, the renters should pay or have their car insurance pay. But beyond that, small damage is a cost of driving and doing business for a rental car agency.
 
Another useless job replaced by AI.

Looking forward to arbitrary arrests because the AI fucked up.

No, brownoids, ChatGPT is not infallible. It's actually quite dumb.
 
Remember after its bankruptcy Hertz was bought out by a private equity company. And this is just what they do, fuck over everyone they can for money as long as they can ultimately make a profit on the transaction. It doesn’t matter if customers are alienated and the company’s reputation is destroyed.
 
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