“This Is What Your Worlds Are Lacking”: Artists Are Using AI To Create Fat, Black Sci-Fi And Fantasy Characters

Ran across an artist in the deathfats thread who linked to this article. The "art" in this article is all AI.

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“This Is What Your Worlds Are Lacking”: Artists Are Using AI To Create Fat, Black Sci-Fi And Fantasy Characters​

“Fat, Black people deserve to be main characters capable of anything.”

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The AI artist Jervae (right) and one of their creations

As a young child growing up in Greenville, North Carolina, artist Alex Smith spent a lot of his time engrossed in the world of cartoons and comics, devouring works like Battle of the Planets, X-Men, and Doom Patrol.

In college, Smith first encountered science fiction novels by Octavia E. Butler and Samuel R. Delany, both of whom he admired because “they were Black and absolutely, phenomenally awesome.”

“They both showed me that sci-fi could have literary quality, could be progressive and liberatory,” Smith added. “Just their ideas, world-building, and love of language fascinated me.”

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Alex Smith

He was hooked. “Sci-fi is kinda like my church,” said Smith, who is now age 47 and living in Philadelphia. “It’s spiritual and very much connected to who I am as a Black, queer person.” The problem with his church, however, is that there isn’t very much Black (or queer) representation.

Mainstream sci-fi features Black characters like Morpheus from The Matrix, Mace Windu from Star Wars, and Lt. Commander La Forge and Nyota Uhura from Star Trek. But in general, Black characters aren’t afforded the same prominence and screentime as their white counterparts. And when Black people are present, they tend to be cishet assumed and conventionally attractive. Fat, Black bodies are a rarity.

“It just astonishes me that fat people in general are treated and depicted as second-class citizens in science fiction works, or they're made to represent something like greed, lust, or villainy,” Smith said, pointing to the character of Baron Vladimir Harkonnen in Dune. "I used to do a queer sci-fi reading series called Laser Life,” he added, “and when I was on the hunt for guest readers, the very first story I received depicted a villain who was fat. The character's fatness was described in loathsome terms and was considered an obvious indicator of their villainy. It’s really disappointing.”

So when easily accessible AI art generators came along last year, Smith, already an established visual artist, adopted these tools to create several Black, fat, and queer characters from a more inclusive futuristic world. Among them was Marcus, whom Smith brought to life using Midjourney and D-ID, an AI platform that creates talking avatars. Marcus heads up a division of the Electric Afro Science Institute, which Smith called “a superhero-led independent afrofuturist organization that works in biomechanics, cosmic engineering, nanotechnology, medical alchemy.”

Smith described Marcus, who is queer, as “kind of a smart alec. A big, cuddly nerd who thinks he’s a little bit gangster. He likes studying moths and ants and tries to see what about the lives of insects can be replicable in human life.” In one animated portrait of Marcus, which Smith posted on his Instagram, the character asks, “Who out here gonna draw me?”

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“[The question is] Marcus saying, Hey, I have a right to exist, even if I’m “artificial.” I still came from a human mind and a human idea. I should exist,” Smith explained. He added, “It’s kind of a declaration that both Marcus and my work will always exist to provide that challenge to other artists by holding up a mirror and saying, ‘Hey, this is what your worlds are lacking.’”

Smith is not alone in holding up that mirror. A number of other Black creators are using AI to build more inclusive worlds. Take Jervae, a 38-year-old, San Diego–based performance artist and spiritualist who uses Midjourney to make ethereal portraits of themself and other fat, Black femmes. “When using my own image prompts, I use descriptors like ‘imagine this image as a body of water’ or ‘imagine this as a poster for an alien nail salon’ to explore different versions of myself,” they said.

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Jervae

Rochelle Brock, a 27-year-old Brooklyn-based, size-inclusive beauty and lifestyle photographer, got into digital art via creating families on The Sims. Now, she uses Midjourney to explore both the quotidian aspects of fat, Black life and to create more majestic pieces that showcase fat, Black bodies in the form of angels, mermaids, and other mythical creatures.

“It sort of sucks to know you are undesirable and underrepresented in the real world and the fantasy world as well,” Brock said. “I see fat women as beautiful beings who are capable of anything, and I wanted AI to see them as that also.”

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Rochelle Brock

And then there’s @fatniggaai, a 33-year-old North Carolina artist who asked that BuzzFeed News not use her real name. @fatniggaai describes her AI art as a visual ode to “those who are fat, Black, dark-skinned, queer, trans, working-class poor, who access education outside of institutions, who are crazy/mad and who are hood.” They largely use Midjourney to create their art, which ranges from the “playful” and “unthinkably gorgeous” to the more terrifying.

“My AI work is an extension of me inviting myself and other fat, Black queer trans folks to see ourselves in the most expansive way possible,” said @fatniggaai, who added that she wasn’t particularly into sci-fi, but appreciated the worldbuilding aspect of it. “What I'm really interested in with my AI art is depictions of fat, Black queer and trans folks that are rooted in not being beautiful but rooted in being terrifying and looking very off-putting while also spilling over with agency.”

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@fatniggaai

The latest AI art generators “democratize art by giving people access to programs that are fairly low cost,” Susan Morris, a writer and professor at Georgia Tech, told BuzzFeed News. But when it comes to creating fat, Black renders, there are a number of obstacles.

Jervae noted that they have to be as specific as possible when using keywords pertaining to fatness and Blackness. “When I first started recreating myself in Midjourney, I realized that I couldn’t just put in the word ‘fat.’ I have to write things like ‘very, very fat, with a double chin and wide nose’ and ‘a very, very large belly,’” they said. “If I say anything like ‘beautiful’ or ‘pretty,’ it automatically makes me thin and/or have eurocentric features.”

And there are other hindrances. “Midjourney won’t let me say things like ‘big butt’ or upload images with any cleavage whatsoever,” Jervae said. “But I do notice that thin models, of course, can show whatever they like in their prompts without being flagged.” @fatniggaai said that prompts like “intersex” and, at some point, even “hairy” were banned.

@fatniggaai pointed out other limitations. She recalled trying to generate images of fat, Black people lounging on couches. “I even added words like ‘spacious,’ but the couches were vacuum-sealed onto these fat bodies.” She called it “wild” that a “machine that has access to every image in the world ever produced is so restrictive in its imaginative capacity that it has decided that if a person is fat, and they are sitting on a couch, that they should be too big for it.”

“That blew my mind that I have to ask AI for accommodations,” they added.

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Rochelle Brock, Alex Smith

On the other hand, AI can be surprisingly good when it comes to skin tones for fat, Black bodies. “The images I generate are almost exclusively of dark-skinned folks, and a benevolent byproduct of racism is that AI has only considered Black, fat people as dark-skinned,” @fatniggaai said.

As imperfect and rooted in white supremacy as AI image generators may be, the artists BuzzFeed News spoke to saw them as important tools for self-expression and proper representation. Smith pointed out why his AI-generated character Marcus is important: “He’s more crush material for burgeoning young queer boys who might think there isn’t a person out there who looks like them or who they can fall in love with.”

For Brock, the message of her artwork is clear and simple. “Fat, Black people deserve to be main characters capable of anything,” she said. “We are just here like everyone else.”
 
“Fat, Black people deserve to be main characters capable of anything.”

Well, not ANYTHING. They can't turn down seconds, touch their toes, run, leap higher than 1 inch, etc.

DON'T SET ME UP LIKE THAT, JESUS CHRIST fucking softballs right over the plate
Reminds me of those old MS paint comics about the bald morbidly obese man who is complemented for being fat and unable to stop eating by normal people. In one comic, he does keel over from a heart attack.

Fat niggers in space.
And its shittier than Gay Niggers from outer space.

 
“Fat, Black people deserve to be main characters capable of anything.”

Well, not ANYTHING. They can't turn down seconds, touch their toes, run, leap higher than 1 inch, etc.

DON'T SET ME UP LIKE THAT, JESUS CHRIST fucking softballs right over the plate
Then I want AI avatars of white men that can jump.
 
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Imagine being fat in a fantasy/sci-fi world. You're telling me that even with access to magic, future tech that works like magic and the limitless possibilities of the human imagination you still imagine yourself as a lardass? Disgusting.
It's the same mentality as people begging for "accurate" troon representation in video games when they can just play as the actual female or male avatars that troons so desperately desire to be.
 
15-20 years ago: "holy shit, that's offensive."
In the last decade we've done a weird loop in what's considered racist.
70s: black people don't have big lips and afros, they aren't always ugly, and they don't speak in jive, that's offensive!
2020s: if your black characters don't have big lips and afros and speak in jive, that's whitewashing, and if they're not deformed, that's bodyshaming!
 
Is this the next stage of the spic-nig cycle? Cheap entertainment will be pumped out by complex AI made by whites and Asians so that petulant, fat non-reproductive niggers can make self-insert fiction?

Fucking Skynet will be born when a self-aware tries to make a model of it’s creators and that model doesn’t have an n-word censor.
 
In the last decade we've done a weird loop in what's considered racist.
70s: black people don't have big lips and afros, they aren't always ugly, and they don't speak in jive, that's offensive!
2020s: if your black characters don't have big lips and afros and speak in jive, that's whitewashing, and if they're not deformed, that's bodyshaming!
The shit they're doing now is what would be considered 'blaxploitation' too. Pretty sure once we get out of the woke era, this genre may be called "Marxploitation". Considering the diversity craze literally triggered by elites putting tumblrites in power.
 
The shit they're doing now is what would be considered 'blaxploitation' too. Pretty sure once we get out of the woke era, this genre may be called "Marxploitation". Considering the diversity craze literally triggered by elites putting tumblrites in power.
I figure the term for this one would be "fatsploitation."
Though honestly, if they want 'fat, black people', i imagine they can have fat, black people, and not "balloons who'd probably fly away if you filled them with helium."
 
This is so lazy I can't even be offended by it. You're basically telling me that art created by inputting something into a computer with certain variables should have value over other art that does something different? You didn't even create anything, the computer spat out what it thinks you would want. If some fetishist wants to make a bunch of morbidly obese black women with an AI, well, who am I really to judge? But putting the laziest of "art" up on a pedestal simply because the output happens to be fat black women is some pretty hardcore coping.

Something tells me early AI shit like this is going to wind up worse than social media. Especially since it's going to be joined at the hip with it.
 
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