Thoughts on Horseshoe Theory?

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You know how when hard core neoliberals when faced with mild criticism get all in a tizz and call you a facist nazi or whatever?

Same with some of the "conservative" guys here. Disagree, politely or not with their politics , and they similarly get all in a tizz and call you some tranny loving danger hair (or similar insult).

Both extreme sides of the group do whatever they can to silence others, instead of, I don't know... Chilling the hell out and seeing the other side of the coin.

 

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nazi germany and the ussr where basically the same state

 

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Both extreme sides of the group do whatever they can to silence others, instead of, I don't know... Chilling the hell out and seeing the other side of the coin.

Seeing the other degenerate, dangerous, insane side of the coin is why conservatives hate liberals, their side of the coin is hellish.

 

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Seeing the other degenerate, dangerous, insane side of the coin is why conservatives hate liberals, their side of the coin is hellish.

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Do you know how many sex pests there is in the right wing side if things, both the political right and the religious right?

And before you say it, no, I'm not going to have a go
-at you (your poop fetish aside lol),
-conservative parties (they have plenty of good points at times)
- or religious folk (not every fundie or even preacher is a perv, and in the greater population of things they are a minority),
-nor am I negating that there are sex pests in the far left (trannies being the first to mind . But once again, in the greater population of the left, most of which consists of milder normies, said trannies are comparatively rare).

The fact remains both sides have degenerate pervs, including the right, and each side should instead of shit-flinging and saying how bad the other is based on the extreme sides where the degenerates lie, instead they (or actually whatever leaders are involved as most leftists and right wingers are much milder normies who have nothing to do with the degens) should take charge and get rid of said pervs.

Screaming on how bad the other side is isn't going to hide or negate how bad your own side is. It's not going to negate problems or make your side perfect.


Okay? Chill.

 

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Do you know how many sex pests there is in the right wing side if things, both the political right and the religious right?

They exist on the right but the left is the party of degeneracy, it's their platform. Their presidential candidates run on grooming, drugging, and castrating little boys, I'm sorry if you're so retarded that you can't differentiate that from a 20-something youth pastor boning a 17 & a half year old girl and having virtually nobody defend it.

And before you say it, no, I'm not going to have a go
-at you (your poop fetish aside lol),
-conservative parties (they have plenty of good points at times)
- or religious folk (not every fundie or even preacher is a perv, and in the greater population of things they are a minority),
-nor am I negating that there are sex pests in the far left (trannies being the first to mind . But once again, in the greater population of the left, most of which consists of milder normies, said trannies are comparatively rare).

1. False.
2. True.
3. Not only is not every preacher a perv, very few are, and the ones who are usually still aren't as perverted as your typical liberal anyway.
4. Not only are there sex pests on the "far left" but the entirety of the left is at minimum complicit (including libertarians), every registered Democrat is implicitly condoning all the Sodom & Gomorrah shit their party mainstreams.

The fact remains both sides have degenerate pervs, including the right, and each side should instead of shit-flinging and saying how bad the other is based on the extreme sides where the degenerates lie, instead they (or actually whatever leaders are involved as most leftists and right wingers are much milder normies who have nothing to do with the degens) should take charge and get rid of said pervs.

If the left got rid of pervs they'd never win another election anywhere, ever again, since that's a huge contingent of their party.

Screaming on how bad the other side is isn't going to hide or negate how bad your own side is. It's not going to negate problems or make your side perfect.

Of course not, and that's not the goal, the goal is acknowledging the facts. My side doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to not troon out kids or champion infanticide and then it's already infinitely less degenerate and far more preferable.

Okay? Chill.

 

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They exist on the right but the left is the party of degeneracy, it's their platform. Their presidential candidates run on grooming, drugging, and castrating little boys, I'm sorry if you're so retarded that you can't differentiate that from a 20-something youth pastor boning a 17 & a half year old girl and having virtually nobody defend it.

1. False.
2. True.
3. Not only is not every preacher a perv, very few are, and the ones who are usually still aren't as perverted as your typical liberal anyway.
4. Not only are there sex pests on the "far left" but the entirety of the left is at minimum complicit (including libertarians), every registered Democrat is implicitly condoning all the Sodom & Gomorrah shit their party mainstreams.

If the left got rid of pervs they'd never win another election anywhere, ever again, since that's a huge contingent of their party.

Of course not, and that's not the goal, the goal is acknowledging the facts. My side doesn't need to be perfect, it just needs to not troon out kids or champion infanticide and then it's already infinitely less degenerate and far more preferable.

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Why are making it into some spastic competition on who has what bunch of pervs? It reeks if projection and silencing (and possibly a sock of someone trying to make conservatives look like fools).

And why are you applying it to the general normie masses? Do you even talk to anybody normal or do you live on a cave on mars?

 

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Why are making it into some spastic competition on who has what bunch of pervs? It reeks if projection and silencing (and possibly a sock of someone trying to make conservatives look like fools).

"i have no rebuttal to your logic and facts, so lacking any semblance of reason ill insinuate you're projecting instead" classic libtard

And why are you applying it to the general normie masses? Do you even talk to anybody normal or do you live on a cave on mars?

What kind of weird, lazy attempt at deflection is this?

 

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"i have no rebuttal to your logic and facts, so lacking any semblance of reason ill insinuate you're projecting instead" classic libtard

I am not a "libtard"

Seriously. I get thunder domers are dicks but you in particular try waaaay too hard to get into slap fights with anyone you think is a "libtard" and put way to much effort into said competitions, (which I refuse to get dragged into in this case, because like I said, I reeks of silencing.)

To paraphrase Shakespeare "the lad does protest too much"

So please tell me, what the fuck are you doing?

What kind of weird, lazy attempt at deflection is this?

See, I spend most of my day t off of my phone, away from the internet, talking to various normies of various stances, and can see plain as day no-one is as insane as you try to portray them as. To say that they're insane after you have been going on and on trying to demonise them, it makes you look insane.

So why are you trying so hard to demonise them? The normie mild ones? You compensating for something or what?

 

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So please tell me, what the fuck are you doing?

Raping you in a debate, as if it wasn't obvious.

I spend most of my day t off of my phone, away from the internet, talking to various normies of various stances, and can see plain as day no-one is as insane as you try to portray them as. To say that they're insane after you have been going on and on trying to demonise them, it makes you look insane.

Which of us voted to open the border to gangsters, rapists, murderers, and thieves? Which of us voted to troon out children? Which of us voted for explicit Antiwhiteism, misandry, and Christian persecution? Which of us voted against the First & Second Amendments?

Please remind me which of us is insane based on that. Your precious "normies" talk about muh football and muh Marvel movies so they can't be insane, right?

So why are you trying so hard to demonise them?

Because of the above. You're not ever going to address a single point, you're going to continue deflecting and spew more logical fallacies because your argument lacks substance. Your ethical framework is nonexistent, your capacity for reason minimal, and your liberal ideology vacuous and incoherent.

 

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Raping you in a debate, as if it wasn't obvious.

And what is this supposed to accomplish?

Which of us voted to open the border to gangsters, rapists, murderers, and thieves? Which of us voted to troon out children?

I have done none of the above. I am not a yank, and I have voted liberal party thus so far.

Whatever problems your country has, I am sorry you have these issues, but I have had nothing to do with it.

Which of us voted for explicit Antiwhiteism, misandry, and Christian persecution?

I am one of the last persons on this planet who wants Christians to be persucuted. Seriously. I hate that the far left bashes Christians, I hate it a lot. But denying obvious problems of the church and making it into a "who is less pervert than thou" competition isn't going to work in the way of stopping said bashers. I can get being dragged into their slap fights as they do the same. But this isn't the way.

Which of us voted against the First & Second Amendments?

Once again, for the record, John Howard, leader of the liberal party (aka conservative party) of Australia back when, was the one who enacted gun control.

Not all of the ideals you are against are necessarily "leftist."

Please remind me which of us is insane based on that. Your precious "normies" talk about muh football and muh Marvel movies so they can't be insane, right?

You really need to get out more

Because of the above. You're not ever going to address a single point, you're going to continue deflecting and spew more logical fallacies because your argument lacks substance. Your ethical framework is nonexistent, your capacity for reason minimal, and your liberal ideology vacuous and incoherent.

I can get debating with hard-left liberals can be tiring but going so far right you get into a rabbit hole just pushes people away. They're supposed to be reached.

 

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And what is this supposed to accomplish?

Being correct in itself is the accomplishment.

Whatever problems your country has, I am sorry you have these issues, but I have had nothing to do with it.

By "us" I'm referring to myself/my political party and the "normies" of which you speak/their political party.

But since you're not American your opinions are irrelevant anyway.

Once again, for the record, John Howard, leader of the liberal party (aka conservative party) of Australia back when, was the one who enacted gun control.

Not all of the ideals you are against are necessarily "leftist."

We call those traitors RINOs here, buddy, most gun control is 100% leftist shit, especially the kind in Australia, which is a liberal hellhole.

You really need to get out more

If I do will that make your arguments better?

I can get debating with hard-left liberals can be tiring but going so far right you get into a rabbit hole just pushes people away. They're supposed to be reached.

Which part of what I said specifically do you think would push a reasonable person away? The bit about not wanting illegal gangsters flooding the country? The part where I don't think kids should be trooned out? Enlighten me.

 

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Being correct in itself is the accomplishment.

Being up your ass about it this much is an accomplishment

By "us" I'm referring to myself/my political party and the "normies" of which you speak/their political party.

But since you're not American your opinions are irrelevant anyway.

So you block your ears and refuse to listen to anything that might help you quit being an ass because of this spastic tribalism and this sentinal island-tier isolationism you're all trying to pull?

We call those traitors RINOs here, buddy, most gun control is 100% leftist shit, especially the kind in Australia, which is a liberal hellhole.

Oz isn't a liberal hell-hole. America is a nationalistic hell hole. You guys look whacked.

If I do will that make your arguments better?

It will give your mental palate a cleanse, I would figure

Which part of what I said specifically do you think would push a reasonable person away? The bit about not wanting illegal gangsters flooding the country? The part where I don't think kids should be trooned out? Enlighten me.

By lumping anyone normal who might try thinking for themselves about one political issue or the next as the extreme liberals you're out to get.

Like if some rando says to himself "hmmm, maybe unions have a thing going" are you going to reeee about communism and go off at him? If someone feels a smidgeon of pity or humanity towards those guys chucked into el salvidor prison, are you going to go off on them about rapists? I could go on.

But you get the jist. People have concerns and while, like I say, conservatism has many good points, normie people have problems and concerns and the nationalistic crazy ideas america wants to push don't work, and pushing it anyway while just calling anyone who brings up a concern as a "tranny lover" or whatever just makes you look a fool.

 

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Being up your ass about it this much is an accomplishment

Fair

So you block your ears and refuse to listen to anything that might help you quit being an ass because of this spastic tribalism and this sentinal island-tier isolationism you're all trying to pull?

How am I being an ass? And even if I am, how does that detract from me being correct or not anyway?

I'm not in favor of isolationism but I'm very America first, so sorry if I don't care about whatever hellhole you're from or value your opinion as much because of that.

Oz isn't a liberal hell-hole.

https://washingtonstand.com/news/new-australian-law-makes-certain-prayers-unlawful

You were saying?

It will give your mental palate a cleanse, I would figure

Moving out of your totalitarian prison nation while you still can would give you a mental palate cleanse.

Like if some rando says to himself "hmmm, maybe unions have a thing going" are you going to reeee about communism and go off at him?

I'd high-five him because he's MAGA then, since the unions backed Trump.

If someone feels a smidgeon of pity or humanity towards those guys chucked into el salvidor prison, are you going to go off on them about rapists?

Yes, because all the ones sent back are criminals, like rapists and thieves. Why shouldn't I? They're not shipping little old Mexican grannies to El Salvador prisons

I could go on.

Please do.

normie people have problems and concerns and the nationalistic crazy ideas america wants to push don't work, and pushing it anyway while just calling anyone who brings up a concern as a "tranny lover" or whatever just makes you look a fool.

What's are a couple "nationalistic crazy ideas" specifically, and how do they not work?

Even if any such ideas did exist, if you're a registered Democrat today you are objectively a tranny lover or at minimum tacitly condone transgenderism, that's a fact.

 

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I take what I said back. Horseshoe Theory is real but the two sides become similar only in how retarded they are.

 

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How am I being an ass? And even if I am, how does that detract from me being correct or not anyway?

Because you try to demonise everyone.

And nobody here is a demon.

You were saying?

Oh my word you actually listen to JD Vance. What next, tucker carlson and his "totalitarian regime australia nonsense?".....

Moving out of your totalitarian prison nation while you still can would give you a mental palate cleanse.

.... You really have no idea how things are different from what your political party likes to bullshit.

Also, rich coming from a user who wanted usa to be some insane empire that throws anyone with different ideals into prisons or worse.

You really are a cult. Not fundie-they don't act like you do. Not conservative, just a fringe cult. That, or a sock.

I'd high-five him because he's MAGA then, since the unions backed Trump.

We'll, lovely. Last I heard some trump mouth-piece was against unions. But hey, good luck to you if that's different.

Yes, because all the ones sent back are criminals, like rapists and thieves. Why shouldn't I? They're not shipping little old Mexican grannies to El Salvador prisons

Prove it.

Each one.

What's are a couple "nationalistic crazy ideas" specifically, and how do they not work?

Even if any such ideas did exist, if you're a registered Democrat today you are objectively a tranny lover or at minimum tacitly condone transgenderism, that's a fact.

Do you listen to yourself?

 

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Because you try to demonise everyone.

Only liberals and RINOs (read: liberals).

Oh my word you actually listen to JD Vance.

The Australian government is JD Vance? Amazing.

Also, rich coming from a user who wanted usa to be some insane empire that throws anyone with different ideals into prisons or worse.

Let's hear some of these "different ideas" you're simping for.

Prove it.

Each one.

That's not my job, it's the job of the government. And they're all illegals at any rate, so I still don't give a shit, in fact I am glad.

Do you listen to yourself?

"Here's why you're wrong" - things you WON'T say.

Also, nice job avoiding the question again.

 

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Only liberals and RINOs (read: liberals).

The fucks a RINO?

You got a problem with big African animals?

The Australian government is JD Vance? Amazing.

It's a "oh great, not this bullshit artist again" moment, yeah...

... Anyway, the NSW government isn't the Australian government as a whole, it's a state. and if we're going to split hairs, why not point out the laws against conversion therapy going on in the USA - depending on state- guess that means all of America is a totalitarian regime by your logic.

Edit: you know what, once again you are pulling some "who has more pervs than thou" competition. Why are doing this again?

Are you trying to compensate for something? Hide something?

Let's hear some of these "different ideas" you're simping for.

And have you go off on a tangent again? No thanks. I'd rather get back to my point: why are you trying to slap fight with every person you think is a leftist? Why the competitions?

That's not my job, it's the job of the government. And they're all illegals at any rate, so I still don't give a shit, in fact I am glad.

Considering some of them didn't get due process I don't think your government is doing its job. Isn't that one of your amendments?

"Here's why you're wrong" - things you WON'T say.

Also, nice job avoiding the question again.

No, because you want to go off on a tangent again. It's bait to get into some other slap fight (moreso). All you want to do is bitch and moan about trannies and whatever race or politics someone has. Just why?

 

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The fucks a RINO?

You got a problem with big African animals?

Republican In Name Only, basically a politician registered as a Republican but who behaves like a Democrat.

And no, I have no problem with black people.

... Anyway, the NSW government isn't the Australian government as a whole, it's a state. and if we're going to split hairs, why not point out the laws against conversion therapy going on in the USA - depending on state- guess that means all of America is a totalitarian regime by your logic.

Bro you guys had your guns confiscated, it's not an isolated incident. Your country is a joke. Blue states in America are bad but at least the whole country ain't cucked.

And have you go off on a tangent again? No thanks. I'd rather get back to my point.

Can't defend them, expected as much.

Considering some of them didn't get due process I don't think your government is doing its job. Isn't that one of your amendments?

It doesn't or shouldn't apply to non-citizens.

No, because you want to go off on a tangent again.

"i won't tell you why you're wrong because you'll go on a tangent so ill keep responding but dancing around the argument itself"

All you want to do is bitch and moan about trannies and whatever race or politics someone has. Just why?

Do you realize what thread you're in? What're you here for if you're not going to engage in good faith, and just complain about me debating politics in a political thread? Liberals really are braindead.

 

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Republican In Name Only, basically a politician registered as a Republican but who behaves like a Democrat.

I. E. Yankee drama, I care not for

Bro you guys had your guns confiscated, it's not an isolated incident. Your country is a joke. Blue states in America are bad but at least the whole country ain't cucked.

It was a buy back scheme, you spaz. People here don't avoid getting guns out of fear- they can get them if they put in the effort, had a good reason for it and not be an utter nut. People don't get gun because they don't want to. Who wants to be responsible for fucking up and shooting somebody?

Can't defend them, expected as much.

More like your incessant prattling about your little windmills you're out to tilt isn't worth anyone's time.

It doesn't or shouldn't apply to non-citizens

it's a human rights violation

and the usa is on a human's rights watchdig list

But if that's the way you feel, I'll remember that if you go through the same shit they do.

i won't tell you why you're wrong because you'll go on a tangent so ill keep responding but dancing around the argument itself"

What are you trying to argue?

Do you realize what thread you're in? What're you here for if you're not going to engage in good faith, and just complain about me debating politics in a political thread? Liberals really are braindead.

Yeah, it's a horseshoe theory thread. And much like far-left liberals who spend their time obsessing over "Nazis" instead of their relationship with their boyfriend or whatever, you are the same: going on about liberals instead of focusing on your waifus pleading to get back to bed. Thank you for showing that once again, both sides are completely whacked

 

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People don't get gun because they don't want to.

Ain't what I hear, pretty sure you're coping and seething.

it's a human rights violation

Maybe but I don't care, I only care about the U.S Constitution, which at least largely only applies to citizens. Get these invaders the fuck out by any means necessary.

Yeah, it's a horseshoe theory thread. And much like far-left liberals who spend their time obsessing over "Nazis" instead of their relationship with their boyfriend or whatever, you are the same: going on about liberals instead of focusing on your waifus pleading to get back to bed. Thank you for showing that once again, both sides are completely whacked

Except Nazis are a make-believe bogeyman; liberals are baby killers who troon out children while voting for White genocide and the eradication of the U.S Constitution.