Thoughts on Saddam Hussein?

[Gravityqueen4life]

Saddam Hussein has been brought up alot lately since he will play a big role in the next Call of Duty Black Ops game. Zoomers have been calling him hero for standing up against the united states and Israel but i dont think they understand who they dealing with here.

Saddam Hussein was not a good guy. he killed his own people for not being loyal enough to him, took part in ethnic cleansing against Kurds and Armenia's in irak, would steal all the wealth so he could buy gold for himself and his children (had a toilet made out of pure gold) and speaking of his children, they were all batshit crazy murders and rapists. One that comes to mind is Uday Hussein, who killed a man and raped a women during their honeymoon. The wife killed herself afterwards.

Saddam went to war with Iran which he lost and cost the lives of thousands for nothing. He was dictator placed by the US as means to control the region during the golf war but was no longer needed once 9/11 happened. used it as a perfect excuse to invade Irak as a means to "bring order to the middle east and spread democracy" but in reality, it was just to take all of Saddams gold and oil.

what do you guys think? i admit, im not an export when it comes to Saddam Hussein, the golf war and the Irak war. so correct me if im wrong.

also, because lol.

 

[generic sauce]

I think Saddam is a pretty cool guy. Eh kills goat fuckers and doesnt afraid of anything.

 

[Lithuophile]

Same with gaddafi. I don't care how much you hate the petrodollar and central banking, the moment you build a rape chamber to kidnap and defile underage boys in is the moment you deserve all ten of those bayonets shoved up your ass.

 

[skunt]

saddam was a cunt in every regard. and his offspring were arguably worse - they just lacked the power that saddam wielded.

watching him walk the gallows through the camera of a brick-nokia was cathartic and if he could be re-animated to be hanged again i'd watch the HD version.

 

[Chongqing]

He shot his own son.

 

[Pierre D'Olnique]

Second shittiest SP character after Towelie.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

He is one of the many strong men that gate kept a region that had only known, and therefore could only been ruled by, strong men that were removed for spurious or self-serving reason causing an insane domino effect that might as well end up spiraling into all of us finally and definitely going to hell.

 

[Fastest Hand In The East]

Thoughts on Saddam Hussein?

I think he is still hanging around somewhere.

 

[David Brown]

I'm not gonna deny all the atrocity propaganda and shit but if all that stuff is true why did they have to make up the whole "babies thrown out of incubators" hoax? Isn't the truth enough?

 

[AnonymousKot]

Same with gaddafi. I don't care how much you hate the petrodollar and central banking, the moment you build a rape chamber to kidnap and defile underage boys in is the moment you deserve all ten of those bayonets shoved up your ass.

any proof of that, i know about mass graves but i've never heard of the baath party committing rapes on underage boys

 

[Battlefield2142EU]

Pre-American democracy, Iraq had one of the largest Christian populations in the Middle East. Saddam's Iraq even had gay clubs in the middle. Iraq was even safe for the native Jewish population. Funny how more Iraqis died and were enslaved when America removed Saddam Hussein.

 

[Pitbull Victim]

Saddam combined the delusional self-importance of a stereotypical African dictator with the dumb brutality of a stereotypical mafia boss:



Saddam was also pretty shit as a family man. Uday, his oldest son and originally likely heir, was probably insane and an alleged mass-murderer and rapist. Qusay, who became the likely heir after Uday was crippled in an assassination attempt, also probably had a ton of people killed but kept a lower profile about it. Saddam's son-in-law, Hussein Kamel al-Majid, defected to Jordan but was lured back under a fake promise of forgiveness from Saddam and then was killed in a gunfight.

Saddam was also pretty shit from a military perspective, not just in the Gulf War, but also in the Iran-Iraq War which ended in a stalemate despite Iraq getting aid from United States, the UK, and the Soviet Union, and Iran being so bad off that they were using child soldiers to clear minefields.

 

[Dr J]

Same with gaddafi. I don't care how much you hate the petrodollar and central banking, the moment you build a rape chamber to kidnap and defile underage boys in is the moment you deserve all ten of those bayonets shoved up your ass.

We don't really have the moral high ground to be outraged about Saddam or Gaddafi, seeing as one of the first things the Americans did when they took over Afghanistan was reinstate the boy rape gangs.

Saddam and Gaddafi may have been bastards, but removing them just because they're bastards and the world is a lot 'better off' with fewer bastards is a simplistic, idealistic view of things. Obviously their brutality kept a lot of equally bad people in check and, now that they've both been removed, the region is massively unstable

 

[Magicicada_septendecula]

Saddam Hussein is part of the reason I believe in cultural relativism (also why certain cultures should stay with their own kind in their own lands). I'm not going to be like the tankies (the primary people saying he was so awesome ~20 years ago) or some elements on the nationalist right who seem to love him now, but he was the best they could do. Your choices in that region are various sleazy monarchs, dictatorial beasts, or unstable "democracies" (Lebanon, lol) that result in all the same things. Do you think our "allies" in Saudi Arabia not do all the same things? They have to rule with an iron fist because they are ethnically and religiously diverse, and unlike the US, they've been living together for thousands of years and all hate each other, sometimes with good reason. It looks wrong and even evil from the perspective of some western person who lives in a still mostly homogeneous country (as much as their leaders would like to change that) or one that may be diverse, but has a much shorter history and a culture of assimilation.

 

[General Emílio Médici]

Gaddafi was better than Hussein.

Hussein did quite a few important and based things on keeping Iraq working and holding a sectarian implosion away, but he undermined it by also being a lolcow about it and constantly messing up. The Iran-Iraq war was a shitshow, his Kuwait invasion was a complete meme which permanently fucked Iraq until he gave Bush son the excuse to come and finish him off.

 

[Jarl Varg]

This one's a classic:

 

[No Batty Boys in Jamaica]

I miss that nigga like you wouldn’t believe.

I don’t even think he was the most based person ever; it’s just he was the better alternative to getting rid of him.

 

[Otterly]

The Brits drew up the concept of Iraq didn’t we? It was a few ottoman provinces that we cobbled together and called a country (Basra, Baghdad and Mosul.) so a bunch of peoples who don’t like each other very much are bunged together and fight a lot. They need to be kept from doing so in order to build a state.
Saddam was the kind of strong man asshole who managed that, with extreme violence as needed. He was a dictator, and a brutal one, at the same time he kept the skirmishing down and some level of civilisation in Iraq. What I’ve heard of his sons is 100% negative brutality without the positive strength and being able to keep things fairly peaceful. When we deposed him of course the whole place imploded, saddam was the only thing keeping everyone from each others throats. Doesn’t mean he was a good guy.
Gaddaffi is more interesting and more complex. The ‘third international theory’ stuff is quite interesting, he proposed this very unique way of doing things that rejected capitalism AND Marxism and kind of made it specific to Libya. It was basically nationalism, Islam and national socialism. A lot of what he implemented was good for Libya. Again was he a blameless good guy? No not at all.
But imagine what you could do if you genuinely wanted to make your country better and wanted to focus on national issues, your native religion, and a mix of socialism for the big stuff like water a d private ownership for the small stuff like a family business, that made some kind of sense…. (You’d be CIA’d before you even started of course…)

 

[Lithuophile]

We don't really have the moral high ground to be outraged about Saddam or Gaddafi

I do. I don't torture young children in my basement. I can be outraged by both Gaddafi and Hillary Clinton.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Also if America/Israel had more foresight, they would have kept him around so that he could fuck with Iran. Instead, they got rid of him so Iran can now fuck with Israel.