Thoughts on use of 'misic' as an alternative to 'phobic'. - This suffix has no correlation with irrationality.

[Smug]

I was watching the latest MATI stream and saw this part.

I honestly think this might be something worth investing time in. For example: Saying you're transmisic. Saying you're homomisic. Saying you're Islamomisic. Whatever applies. (i.e. use of the suffix '-misia' or '-misic')

The reason I'm suggesting this is really straightforward: the suffix -phobic is being weaponised to imply that whoever that label is applied to is therefore inherently irrational. Please correct me if you seriously think I'm wrong about this, but I think that would not be the case with 'misic', and there's no way for anyone to twist that otherwise. There's no indication of 'misic' meaning irrational by definition - it simply means 'hatred of'.

Maybe I'm missing something but I think it's at the very least an interesting counterplay to being called 'phobic': "I'm not phobic, I'm misic. That means I have no irrational fear of it. I simply hate it."

A potential counterargument to this is that Peter Hitchens already tried something vaguely similar on British television when called 'islamophobic' and defined 'phobia' as a prejudice, and that was he had was a 'postjudice' - as in he'd looked at the data and seen that on hindsight it was clearly not desirable. I'm suggesting that his strategy is too slow and weak, albeit correct. The lovely thing about being correct anyway is that you get to refine your correctness into punchy wins, as opposed to struggling to obfuscate your incorrectness into begrudging acceptances.

 

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Isn't this already a thing kiwis are doing?

 

[Neo-Nazi Rich Evans]

im for it, the -phobia thing is way over used and the literal meaning makes no sense. i find trannies repulsive,disgusting, and horrible people, but im not afraid of them.

 

[Ultrapenguin]

The language games are all so tiresome though.

The proper response if someone calls you a racist or transphobe or whatever is just to shrug and say "Yeah ok sure. Anyways, back to what I was saying...".

 

[WTBOnlineFather]

I feel like retorting against trannies with an "ackshyually I'm transmisic and not transphobic" misses the point entirely. I'd rather just call them a nigger faggots retard and leave. Maybe take an extra 2 seconds to tell him he'll never be a woman if that's how I'm feeling in the moment.

 

[G19]

I find it flabbergasting in the first place that the -phobia suffix has been incorrectly applied for decades now, and sheep just go along with it. A lot of zoomers don't even know its origins or real meaning anymore. Spread truth.

 

[Distant Ranger]

We're the Balls on the Dick

 

[Dambusters' Dog II]

We already have "misogynistic" (where the mis- part for hating goes at the beginning) and that is used to mean "disagrees with something a feminist says" instead of "hates women" already.

 

[The Foxtrot]

The language games are all so tiresome though.

The proper response if someone calls you a racist or transphobe or whatever is just to shrug and say "Yeah ok sure. Anyways, back to what I was saying...".

That, or say "Yeah, and does that change anything?". Especially when it comes to 'racism', that's treated like the Deadliest Sin, and people can't stand it when you say "Yeah I am, what about it?".

They play the word games to bog down the discussion. Instead of proving a valid point, someone calls you "racist" in the hopes that you'll do an about-face and start trying to prove you're totally not racist, derailing the conversation and letting the leftoids dictate the rules.

 

[Sneeds]

I’m transmisic and I will still never have sex with Keffals because they’re fat and ugly

 

[Rainbow Child]

We already have "misogynistic" (where the mis- part for hating goes at the beginning) and that is used to mean "disagrees with something a feminist says" instead of "hates women" already.

Yes, this is your first problem with trying to make "-misic" happen, and that is that by convention we've already established that miso- is a prefix and not a suffix.

Spoiler: -misic is not going to happen

I like the late aesthetic philosopher, Roger Scruton's, term, "oikophobia", fear of the home, fear of the ordinary, fear of the normal. He coined it as a rhetorical judo-flip on xenophobia. It's not the oikophiles who are the irrationally afraid, it's the oikophobes, tearing down their own architecture, their own religion, their own language, their own demographic, their own sexuality, their own art, their own culture, and replacing it with whatever strangeness with which they are currently in love.

Anything Queer, Slaanesh, iconoclastic, etc, is oikophobia.

 

[Smug]

Yes, this is your first problem with trying to make "-misic" happen, and that is that by convention we've already established that miso- is a prefix and not a suffix.
And the suffix matters why?

 

[David Brown]

If someone calls me a transphobe I just call them a child groomer

 

[Subaru Impreza WRC]

Yes, this is your first problem with trying to make "-misic" happen, and that is that by convention we've already established that miso- is a prefix and not a suffix.

Spoiler: -misic is not going to happen

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I like the late aesthetic philosopher, Roger Scruton's, term, "oikophobia", fear of the home, fear of the ordinary, fear of the normal. He coined it as a rhetorical judo-flip on xenophobia. It's not the oikophiles who are the irrationally afraid, it's the oikophobes, tearing down their own architecture, their own religion, their own language, their own demographic, their own sexuality, their own art, their own culture, and replacing it with whatever strangeness with which they are currently in love.

Anything Queer, Slaanesh, iconoclastic, etc, is oikophobia.

so just like misogyny switch it to misotranny. "I'm a misotrannistic person."

To be honest I don't think it will work either, just like how "race realist" didn't catch on, or "alt-right" which tried to distance itself from conservative right and instead got turned into something even worse in the eyes of normies. You just gotta recite the YWNBAW pasta to troons and be done with it instead of arguing semantics.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I feel like retorting against trannies with an "ackshyually I'm transmisic and not transphobic" misses the point entirely. I'd rather just call them a nigger faggots retard and leave. Maybe take an extra 2 seconds to tell him he'll never be a woman if that's how I'm feeling in the moment.

I've seen several users grumble here among their fellow transmisics about how they're not actually transphobic because they don't scare. It's not something to be used on Twitter to argue with trannies, but will slowly become part of the Kiwi vernacular because it just keeps coming up naturally.

 

[Linako 2.0]

sorry, but misic isn't a very marketable suffix, you got to find something more strong sounding if you want it to spread.

 

[Snuckening2]

What difference does it make?

Let's say you DO manage (somehow, hypothetically) to get the general population to stop using "X-phobic", and popularize "transmesic"/"homomesic", etc, instead. What does that change about how the argument plays out, exactly?

Whatever the Greek root is, all sides of the argument ALREADY accepts "transphobic" as meaning "anti-trans hatred". The trannys/"allies" more than anyone- They don't accuse "transphobes" of "fear-crime" of "fear-speach"- they say your "transphobia" makes you guilty of "HATE-speech" and "HATE-crime" So if the word alraedy has the meaning you want, what do you get from changing the etymology/spelling of a word with the same meaning?

As others have said, it's better to just say "Ok. So I'm a transphobe. Now what?" Instead of nit-picking the technicalities of the word.