War Thousands of subreddits pledge to go dark after the Reddit CEO’s recent remarks - Fallout from the unpopular API pricing change and disastrous AMA with CEO Steve Huffman is turning out the lights on some of Reddit’s most prominent communities.


The version of Reddit we’ll see over the next few days may be a shell of itself. More than 100 subreddits have already gone dark, and thousands more plan to follow in protest of Reddit’s coming API changes, according to the website Reddark, which is tracking the protests.

The protests are happening over API changes that will force many third-party apps, like Apollo and rif is fun for Reddit, to shut down. Frustration was already brewing in the community as developers began reacting to the changes this week, but Reddit CEO Steve Huffman’s responses in recent days have only escalated the community’s pushback.

In a Reddit AMA on Friday, Huffman was met with seemingly universal anger. There were a lot of f-bombs from commenters. A lot of people called him a coward. If there are positive comments, I didn’t find them.

Subreddit moderators and third-party Reddit app developers say they’ve lost trust in Huffman and Reddit’s leadership. Apollo developer Christian Selig accused Huffman of “blatantly lying” in a phone call to some subreddit moderators. The moderators of r/videos wrote that Huffman’s AMA performance was “a collage of inappropriate responses.” r/funny suggested the company was “aim[ing] solely at your looming IPO.”

Most of the subreddits have pledged to go private — preventing outside access — for 48 hours, though some, like the 26 million-member community r/videos, have said they’ll remain private indefinitely. According to this post on r/ModCoord, protests will end when Reddit addresses issues with the API, improves accessibility for blind people, and creates “parity in access to NSFW content.”

Among the complaints are how Reddit’s leadership has, or mostly hasn’t, communicated the details of changes to its API pricing or incoming restrictions, including prohibiting third-party apps from showing NSFW content that’s already viewable on the site. ReddPlanet developer Tony Lupeski said it was a “blatant lie” that Reddit leadership was keeping dialogue open with impacted third-party developers, as Huffman wrote.

“That’s not an answer and you know it,” said user Anacharsis to the same Huffman reply.

When moderator Merari01 asked why the site hadn’t tested the new changes with users and moderators, Huffman said the company “started sharing this information in April.” A few responses pointed out the earlier announcement didn’t include any pricing information and left out details like the ban on third-party apps showing NSFW content.

One user pointed to a post on r/AskHistorians listing times Reddit had reneged on promises.

Since the AMA, some subreddits have escalated their response. Over at r/iPhone, the moderators posted early morning that their original plan was to go dark for just 48 hours, but Huffman’s behavior changed their minds:

Originally, the protest was planned to be 48 hours. However, after a shambolic AMA held by Reddit’s CEO, it has become clear to us that Reddit doesn’t intend to act in good faith. When the CEO is willing to lie and spread libellous claims about another third-party developer, and then try double down by vilifying them, again, in an AMA, despite being proven as a liar by the developer through audio recordings, that’s when we knew what we were up against.

Now /iPhone will be going private, severely restricting access to the sub. As will r/Music, a default subscription for new accounts and one of the largest subreddits on the site. Mods of that community put it right in the title of the post announcing its participation, which says it will close starting June 12th “Until Reddit Takes Back Their API Policy Change.”

r/iPhone, which has 3.8 million users, echoed r/Music’s sentiment, saying, “in the (somewhat unlikely) scenario that Reddit’s leadership has a change of direction that sees the reversal [of] the recent API policy change, we will reopen the subreddit.” r/Gaming says its shutdown will begin on the 12th, and it will be set to private “for 48 hours or longer.”

At the time of publishing, a pinned bot post on the r/ModCoord sub’s post about the protest says nearly 4,500 communities are pledging to go dark, while Reddark, a site tracking the protesting subreddits, says over 200 already have.

Correction June 11th, 2023, 8:47AM EST: A previous version of this headline said thousands of subreddits had gone dark. That is inaccurate, they are currently planning to go dark. r/videos also has not yet gone private, as previously stated. Lastly, a mention of r/History should have read r/AskHistorians. We sincerely regret the error.
 
IIRC Spez did relent and allow fair pricing for 3rd party apps for people who need accessibility.
As I understand it accessibility apps will be allowed to operate without charge. If they're free(no ads, no subscriptions) but otherwise they get the same fees as every other API user.
 
Seems r/Canada has already begun the blackout. I suspect an alt to pop up soon.

I really don't understand the pure coordinated seething this has created. It's like a bunch of toddlers that have just gotten their favorite toy taken away. Like, get a life or something. There's already so much power-tripping with a single mod controlling many subs at once.

Also I may have done something that will likely get me banned on Reddit and/or get my Tier 2 persona doxxed here, but I doubt it. maybe it will just create unmitigated chaos. Very unlikely though.
 
Can anyone explain why they're so mad to someone who has no fucking idea what this app shit is and doesn't know much about Reddit beyond /r/cinemassacretruth?
I know I am very late now, but this was going to be my exact same question. I made a burner account to browse the truthers and enjoy the memes and stuff but killed it when Bimmy/Screenwave started getting heaving into the Nontent Era and shit got extremely stale (Semper Fi, Palp!).

I always wondered about that app shit because it has harrased me nonstop when I tried to read reddit shit from mobile, even refusing to be skipped sometimes. This has been one more funny thing I have read this year though. Keep 'em coming, 2023. :optimistic:
 
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There are few cancers on the internet and society. Social media like Facebook and Twatter. Reddit is one of the cancers. Reddit killed the forums that used to be all over the internet. I hope reddit dies. It needs to go away. All these reddit faggots should just go use a forum. They are still there they are just dead.
 
I hope reddit dies. It needs to go away. All these reddit faggots should just go use a forum. They are still there they are just dead.
Reddit needs to die but so do all redditors. If reddit shuts down, all forums should immediately lock down registration until these rapefugees die from suicide.
 
Finally learning why congregating forums into one monolith is a bad idea eh? There's nowhere left to go for them they'll just have to cope and seethe like all the twittertards when Herr Musk took over.

They don’t have another hugbox to retreat to now that a space Nazi owns Twitter. They’re too dumb to use any other alternative and won’t get any heckin validation for their good boy opinions elsewhere so it looks like they’re trapped.
Funny you say that given many libtards mocked Reddit for being too RW (absurd IK) and tbf a lot of early Musk dickriders were redditors from the meme/business/crypto/science subreddits (remember the doge coin fiasco?). I imagine that part of reddit went over to twitter a while ago as Reddit has become increasingly pozzed by the troon mods leading to purges of its more milquetoast users.
 
Honestly shocked that Reddit hasn't decided to go full Thatcher when it comes to union-busting and just force closed off major subreddits to go public.

Because spoiler alert, the ToS basically allows them to and the fuckwards agreed with it:

You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Reddit the following license to use that Content:

When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works of, distribute, store, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed anywhere in the world. This license includes the right for us to make Your Content available for syndication, broadcast, distribution, or publication by other companies, organizations, or individuals who partner with Reddit. You also agree that we may remove metadata associated with Your Content, and you irrevocably waive any claims and assertions of moral rights or attribution with respect to Your Content.

Specifically, the fact that reddit has the RIGHTS to whatever you do means they could repost it, and essentially mirror privatized reddits. Though, redditors would likely get off to Reddit acting in such a way.
 
The protest is about limiting API access which primarily affects powermods who use automated tools to moderate large communities. They waited to try this "protest" until after they already fucked over the API availability for pushshift which let users check unddit/reveddit to see comments the power jannies removed.

Apparently keeping their oversized egos in check wasn't protest worthy but their precious 3rd party mass tagging and summary tools are clearly vital to everyone.

Jannies also didn't protest when the donald was fucked over despite breaking no rules and didn't protest when spez literally edited user comments from his admin account to make them look bad.

They give 0 shit about anything other than themselves, this protest is entirely self serving.
 
I'm blown away that Reddit hasn't responded with:

1. Flipping all private pages to public

2. Stripping all mods/admins of power that went dark

3. Setting up polls to vote for new mods/admins

It's kinda unreal just how much the average reddit user has deluded themselves into thinking they have that much power.
 
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i dont know how the pricing is now for reddit, but im always leaning on it being freeloaders and people making money without paying the company they make money off of who are always the most upset over pricing changes. so until shown otherwise i just assume the freeloaders are now being required to pay and this is something the marxist on the site cnat stand.
You hit it on the spot. The API was completely free. It will no longer be free.

The other thing is that this is just Reddit being buttmad companies like OpenAI scraped the website to train their AIs without paying a single cent. All those hundred of millions of API calls without a single cent going to Reddit. They realized too late what happened and now they want to try to recoup the few extra cents on their user content.
 
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I'm blown away that Reddit hasn't responded with:

1. Flipping all private pages to public

2. Stripping all mods/admins of power that went dark

3. Setting up polls to vote for new mods/admins

It's kinda unreal just how much the average reddit user has deluded themselves into thinking they have that much power.
Why would they do that when they can just let the subs have their Two Days Hate and still come loyally crawling back anyways?
 
Lol, Reddit is completely down.
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I'm blown away that Reddit hasn't responded with:

1. Flipping all private pages to public

2. Stripping all mods/admins of power that went dark

3. Setting up polls to vote for new mods/admins

It's kinda unreal just how much the average reddit user has deluded themselves into thinking they have that much power.

could you imagine the suicide rate of mods if they did that? Removing the one thing they have in their sad little lives.
 
Either reddit gives into the jannies and lose money, or they don't and cause massive seethe, maybe even killing reddit.
I think if the jannies have too much time away from their hugboxes they may develop even the smallest amount of self introspection and kill themselves. The thought of Reddit death coupled with this is exciting.
could you imagine the suicide rate of mods if they did that? Removing the one thing they have in their sad little lives.
Yup, and I’m all for TJD. Icing on the cake if they themselves are the perpetrators of it.
 
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