Tim Pool - 'journalist' who claims to be a sensible centrist & sucks Sargon of Akkad's wiener; Afraid of the Milkshake ANTIFAs

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TheRaptorJesus said:
I think he got into crypto early and cashed out. Or he got an inheritance. I don't believe the stories he likes to say about his youth. He had the financial backing to be a rambler. But it also only takes a few dedicated whales to support you.
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from what i recall he was into crypto early but never cashed out. I think he mentioned having bitcoin on old computers or phones that are long gone.
 
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lyga said:
Little bit of a power level here but I've worked for a YT channel that was a little bigger than Tim's and had 2x the employees you'd be surprised how much money you can bring in just from sponsors and YT ads as long as you don't get demonetized. With the superchat icing on top, you're making bank. To be fair, it does look like Tim spends a lot on stupid stuff, but I'd guess he can sustain this for quite a while.

Tim has seen a pretty huge drop in monthly views, around 50% drop, and fell behind Crowder after being ahead.
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These stats are old, so I'd be curious to see where he's at this April.
EDIT: I looked up so you guys don't clock me, but it does seem he's dropped even further. He's at 19.8M for Timcast irl and 5.6M on Timcasts, so 25M or so monthly down from 40M. Crowder is down as well, sitting at around 30M a month. (19 main channel, 11 on the bits channel.)
But just a few observations:

Tim never quite got the number of views *per video* that Crowder did--Tim's gambit was to just put out a sheer volume of content that others couldn't really rival. I.e., Crowder might try to hit 1M views per stream (was doing so around election time), while Tim would just crank out streams and slice and dice them into tons of pieces and get a total number over views around 2M, with none of the videos themselves getting close to 1M. (Probably not exact numbers, but just going off memory.) In my opinion, that approach of rewarded him in the short term, but in the long term his takes got bad and there's only so much content people can absorb.

People were rabid for more, more, more content post-2020 election, and plus there were more remaining COVID restrictions so people were spending more time vegging at home. Now that things are getting back to normal, I don't think people have the appetite for the sheer volume Tim puts out, and his takes have gotten more extreme/hypocritical/generally worse.
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What's the RPM like for a political channel? It would also be interesting to see what kind of audience Tim has as things like ad blocker and how he places ads in videos does matter quite a lot.
 
lyga said:
Little bit of a power level here but I've worked for a YT channel that was a little bigger than Tim's and had 2x the employees you'd be surprised how much money you can bring in just from sponsors and YT ads as long as you don't get demonetized. With the superchat icing on top, you're making bank. To be fair, it does look like Tim spends a lot on stupid stuff, but I'd guess he can sustain this for quite a while.

Tim has seen a pretty huge drop in monthly views, around 50% drop, and fell behind Crowder after being ahead.
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These stats are old, so I'd be curious to see where he's at this April.
EDIT: I looked up so you guys don't clock me, but it does seem he's dropped even further. He's at 19.8M for Timcast irl and 5.6M on Timcasts, so 25M or so monthly down from 40M. Crowder is down as well, sitting at around 30M a month. (19 main channel, 11 on the bits channel.)
But just a few observations:

Tim never quite got the number of views *per video* that Crowder did--Tim's gambit was to just put out a sheer volume of content that others couldn't really rival. I.e., Crowder might try to hit 1M views per stream (was doing so around election time), while Tim would just crank out streams and slice and dice them into tons of pieces and get a total number over views around 2M, with none of the videos themselves getting close to 1M. (Probably not exact numbers, but just going off memory.) In my opinion, that approach of rewarded him in the short term, but in the long term his takes got bad and there's only so much content people can absorb.

People were rabid for more, more, more content post-2020 election, and plus there were more remaining COVID restrictions so people were spending more time vegging at home. Now that things are getting back to normal, I don't think people have the appetite for the sheer volume Tim puts out, and his takes have gotten more extreme/hypocritical/generally worse.
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Ugh, fuck who is watching PragerU? Individual lolcows I can understand, some of them have some appeal or they are easy to hatewatch (Crowder is legitimately funny, but he stands out from that list).
 

Let's talk about how Tim is so narcissistic he seems to believe being in 'active combat' means watching a bunch of hood rats burning down a city, or being in the middle of a foreign city with a guide when a revolt kicks off 10 miles away from you. Or how going through some 6 hour training course for journalists for insurance purposes makes you a 'combat' specialist.

Let's also talk about how Tim is so lazy he didn't read the entire news piece that's several months old because those two guys weren't held up by cartel members, they were stopped by local residents curious about two gringos in the middle of the woods in a foreign car.

We can also bring up how Tim brings up the family at the beach who go to hide on a rock while a wolf watches them, and calls the father a coward for not going out and risking a mauling when he has an entirely safe defensive position on the rock. Only to then five minutes later bring up how he hid behind his employees while a bear was trying to rip apart his chicken coop, and then five minutes after that he says. "The only fight you win, is the fight you avoid."

He then tells people to bring fire arms into foreign countries, and how he's such a big strong man who then fled the outskirts of the Philly region because a fucking news helicopter flew over his house.

Oh and let's not forget how he is such a big strong man he has to hire 'special trained men' to defend his house, only to have random jackassess enter the house, and he still says he's getting swatted? He just said he was swatted a 7th time on Twitter, and even his most hardcore fans are calling bullshit on him.
 
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Blacklight said:

Let's talk about how Tim is so narcissistic he seems to believe being in 'active combat' means watching a bunch of hood rats burning down a city, or being in the middle of a foreign city with a guide when a revolt kicks off 10 miles away from you. Or how going through some 6 hour training course for journalists for insurance purposes makes you a 'combat' specialist.

Let's also talk about how Tim is so lazy he didn't read the entire news piece that's several months old because those two guys weren't held up by cartel members, they were stopped by local residents curious about two gringos in the middle of the woods in a foreign car.

We can also bring up how Tim brings up the family at the beach who go to hide on a rock while a wolf watches them, and calls the father a coward for not going out and risking a mauling when he has an entirely safe defensive position on the rock. Only to then five minutes later bring up how he hid behind his employees while a bear was trying to rip apart his chicken coop, and then five minutes after that he says. "The only fight you win, is the fight you avoid."

He then tells people to bring fire arms into foreign countries, and how he's such a big strong man who then fled the outskirts of the Philly region because a fucking news helicopter flew over his house.

Oh and let's not forget how he is such a big strong man he has to hire 'special trained men' to defend his house, only to have random jackassess enter the house, and he still says he's getting swatted? He just said he was swatted a 7th time on Twitter, and even his most hardcore fans are calling bullshit on him.
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Tim makes hypocritical statements because in any given situation he has to be the best in the room. He has to be the smartest, most talented, and (most of all) always correct.

Its also hilarious how he goes on about being a big tough guy, but also stopped doing any field reporting cause its "too dangerous", then shits on Andy Ngo for continuing to do what Tim got famous doing.
 
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Retink said:
What's the RPM like for a political channel? It would also be interesting to see what kind of audience Tim has as things like ad blocker and how he places ads in videos does matter quite a lot.
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I actually don't remember the exact numbers because I was a writer and only would glance at that stuff.

That said, if Tim really does have ~30 employees, he may be in more financial need. I worked with a bigger channel that had less staff. I incorrectly assumed Tim probably only had about 10 people on staff. And spending $15k on a sword is pretty weird behavior to be sure... not exactly a bellwether of responsible fiscal practices.
 
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lyga said:
I actually don't remember the exact numbers because I was a writer and only would glance at that stuff.

That said, if Tim really does have ~30 employees, he may be in more financial need. I worked with a bigger channel that had less staff. I incorrectly assumed Tim probably only had about 10 people on staff. And spending $15k on a sword is pretty weird behavior to be sure... not exactly a bellwether of responsible fiscal practices.
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It's hard to say how many employees he has as the number keeps changing, it's also unclear how much he pays any of the employees or what he even considers an employee. He claims it's around 30 currently.

The sword purchase in itself is whatever, but in the same month he spent 600$ on a couple jars of honey, thousands on whiskey, he bought a coin pusher for a couple thousand, and so on. His monthly spending on random crap is probably north of 40k$ a month.
 
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Wonder if Tim will be bright enough to cancel his weird vanity project spinoffs (like Castcastle and Tales from the something something) if his numbers really start to dip.
 
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Tim's still going on about the restaurant not seating him, he's asking if diners ever take reservations and taking Michael Malice saying that he's never seen a New York diner take reservations as proof that diners never take reservations. It's a diner, they can do whatever the fuck they want and I'm sure if you called and asked them to hold a seat as a regular there, they'd probably work with you on that.
 
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Retink said:
Tim's still going on about the restaurant not seating him, he's asking if diners ever take reservations and taking Michael Malice saying that he's never seen a New York diner take reservations as proof that diners never take reservations. It's a diner, they can do whatever the fuck they want and I'm sure if you called and asked them to hold a seat as a regular there, they'd probably work with you on that.
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Or maybe Tim has pulled bullshit like this before, so the wait staff are less than enthused to seat and deal with him.
 
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Don't Tread on Me said:
Ugh, fuck who is watching PragerU? Individual lolcows I can understand, some of them have some appeal or they are easy to hatewatch (Crowder is legitimately funny, but he stands out from that list).
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I think most of the appeal of the channel is that it looks "official." I.e., with Crowder, Shapiro, or Pool, normies think, "Hey who is this guy? Why should I trust him?" But PragerU comes off as some Offical Entity with Experts that can speak from a position of neutral authority. Your average boomer who stumbles across it probably feels a lot more comfortable sharing it on their Facebook or whatever because of the way it's couched.

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It's hard to say how many employees he has as the number keeps changing, it's also unclear how much he pays any of the employees or what he even considers an employee. He claims it's around 30 currently.

The sword purchase in itself is whatever, but in the same month he spent 600$ on a couple jars of honey, thousands on whiskey, he bought a coin pusher for a couple thousand, and so on. His monthly spending on random crap is probably north of 40k$ a month.
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Yeah, that's not a good pattern. Most of the folks I knew in the industry wouldn't make any big purchases at all... the mindset is very much "put everything back into the business" in the rightwing circles where people put the grind in. That's what screwed Milo over hard... dude could NOT stop his spending. Over the top stuff like dropping $15k on brunch or whatever. Once the fame starts going to folks heads, they often do crazy stuff.

I will say that word on the street when I was in that business was that Tim was paying himself a $900k / year salary, though I had no way to verify. This was about 2 years ago.
 
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After watching tonight's episode, I would have preferred a Malice, Seamus, and Ian cast without Tim. Tim had a couple ok moments but his attempt to steer the conversation really hurt the chemistry the others had as Ian, despite being a burnout, is still respectful enough to have a real conversation with Seamus that isn't just preplanned segment bits. Also, Tim jerking himself off all the time gets really old.
lyga said:
I will say that word on the street when I was in that business was that Tim was paying himself a $900k / year salary, though I had no way to verify. This was about 2 years ago.
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I find that hard to believe as he wasn't as big back then but who knows some of those ad bucks can get rather crazy. I do agree that his spending is probably hurting his attempt to expand.
 
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After watching tonight's episode, I would have preferred a Malice, Seamus, and Ian cast without Tim. Tim had a couple ok moments but his attempt to steer the conversation really hurt the chemistry the others had as Ian, despite being a burnout, is still respectful enough to have a real conversation with Seamus that isn't just preplanned segment bits. Also, Tim jerking himself off all the time gets really old.

I find that hard to believe as he wasn't as big back then but who knows some of those ad bucks can get rather crazy. I do agree that his spending is probably hurting his attempt to expand.
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Yeah Ian may be a burnout and kind of an idiot but he's very respectful when discussing thing and I think he genuinely tries taking things in during the talks since he at least knows he's not the brightest bulb. Tim, meanwhile, genuinely believes his own bullshit as well as smell his own farts.

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His timcast channel can earn about 470k, and we can assume his Tim Pool channel earns half of that at 235k. That's 700k a year on his two solo channels, not to mention his add buys he puts on his audio only podcast (you can get up to 10k per read depending on your channels size) plus the other adds that just appeared that he doesn't read. He can easily live off of that and not take a salary from his IRL show or website to grow it.

I'm not sure if he sold his PA property or Rents it out as that can easily bring in extra income that adds up. He also still might have some subverse investments that he put into Timcast but that's just speculation.

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WV is a cheap state so he doesn't have to pay his employees much. If we assume 60k (standard for some journalist) that's 900k for his employees. IDK if he offers Healthcare or not but even this salary I believe is too generous for Tim.
 
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Yeah Ian may be a burnout and kind of an idiot but he's very respectful when discussing thing and I think he genuinely tries taking things in during the talks since he at least knows he's not the brightest bulb. Tim, meanwhile, genuinely believes his own bullshit as well as smell his own farts.
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I'm sure I've said it before, but I like Ian, because he's retarded in a fun way. I couldn't watch him solo, but I think when he's on with people that can actually come up with good ideas, not like when he does a show with another retard like Andreas, it's actually really interesting. Ian will just come out of nowhere with some bullshit and the other person has to process it and then present their view on a topic that they never expected. He's also compassionate, but he's not able to always figure out when he's touching on something raw, I think when he was questioning Seamus about who wrote the Bible it was obvious Seamus didn't like that Ian didn't respect that people who wrote the original parts would be tortured to death for doing so, but Seamus also understood he was talking to a retard so it didn't devolve into a screaming match. It's an interesting dynamic.
 
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Retink said:
After watching tonight's episode, I would have preferred a Malice, Seamus, and Ian cast without Tim. Tim had a couple ok moments but his attempt to steer the conversation really hurt the chemistry the others had as Ian, despite being a burnout, is still respectful enough to have a real conversation with Seamus that isn't just preplanned segment bits. Also, Tim jerking himself off all the time gets really old.

I find that hard to believe as he wasn't as big back then but who knows some of those ad bucks can get rather crazy. I do agree that his spending is probably hurting his attempt to expand.
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I bounce back and forth between thinking Ian is a character actor or he just is the way he is (wouldn't be shocked since I've met a handful of people like that). Regardless I never found him hateable since despite saying a lot of stupid shit he seems like a pretty cool guy. Shame his role on the podcast is essentially the punching bag that Tim can bounce off of.
 
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