On 25 September, Tim had Joseph Moulton, of Flag Force UK,
which put up a plethora of English flags in York, as the guest.
Phil, Raymond, & Tate the producer, were the co-hosts.
Fair warning, Tim was very insufferable, this episode. More than usual, even. It probably surpasses
the pity party episode, when he contemplated quitting. I can understand that in the wake of Charlie Kirk's assassination, people in the media spotlight are under a lot more stress because it could be them in the crosshairs, next, & I can excuse some rash remarks. But Tim certainly went beyond my usual tolerance for his nonsense.
Clip Collection:
-It was a day ending in "y", so Tim needs to be right. Phil makes the mistake of noting that prosecuting James Comey is good, but the reality is that the average conservative wants to see action to "make the leftists stop killing us", which seems to be going unpunished. Tim argues this makes no sense, & rolling up Comey would put a stop to the low-level violence, by striking fear into people. Phil goes to great lengths to explain that he agrees indicting Comey is good, but it does nothing to address the lone wolves that shot Charlie Kirk, or at the ICE facility. The beanie boy fails to understand this, & compares Phil's approach to "chasing all the bugs you can see", but not rooting out the infestation. This goes around & around, for quite some time:
-Tim continues to insist on his correctness, regardless of how many strawmen he must stuff to do so. Phil explains that until politicians cease their inflammatory rhetoric against ICE & not condemning the doxing of agents, it means they do not want the violence to stop. Tim interjects to say "the feds should not wear masks", because you have to accept the risks of your family being targeted via exposing your identity as part of the job. The beanie boy argues that if he has to face doxing, "every night, with my face on camera", so should federal agents. When the chat rejects his position, he declares "You're all wrong!" He, now, shifts to refusing to live in a nation "where cops walk around, with no badge numbers, covering their faces, because they're scared". The "fear of far-left terror" is not enough to warrant that protection, either:
Tate notes that masking up has been protocol for a decade, because ICE is dealing with the cartels, not only leftist violence. Phil does bring up that the subject of masking up is about ICE, not the average police officer, which does wrong-foot Tim. However, the beanie boy creates a scenario where two separate cities exist, without jurisdiction over each other, & one attempts to exert power over one, claiming this is the current situation with sanctuary cities & states. If ICE is hiding its face, & can get away with brutalising leftists, this means it is civil war, according to Tim:
Joseph steps in to explain that Donald Trump has tried to de-escalate tensions, not ramp up towards war. This means Trump will not be the one to do that de-masking, out of fear it will only lead to more violence. When Tim asks what can be done to curb radicalisation, Phil notes that people disseminating the doxing have to be taken down. Joseph highlights that the most recent ICE shooter appears to have decided upon this recently, & provided no warning signs law enforcement could pick up upon. This sees Tim proclaim if "any random liberal" can just snap, like that, it is time for Trump to invoke "
Presidential Directive 51" & dissolve the Constitution to create "the first American Empire". Joseph says that level of social reformation is akin to the de-Nazification done in the wake of the Second World War:
When the challenges involved in trying to identify lone wolves comes up, Tim argues that this means Trump needs to invoke absolute power to crush the "liberal" opposition. Because if the government cannot identity liberals (not leftists, mind you) that may commit acts of violence, "We are losing if that's the case". Circling back to the original argument, Tim states that if people mask up, it is out of fear of a stronger force that may attack them. In this case, far leftists:
-& it all comes out, now. Tim feels it is unfair that ICE agents get to wear masks & hide their identities, but poor beanie boy cannot. Tim thinks it is terrible that he faces doxing, threats, etc., for what he does, while others can disguise themselves. Which is funny, because in this tantrum, Tim claims his security team told him a disguise would not be enough to make him safe. Even though the beanie boy said he was
unwilling to wear the disguise his guards advised him to wear, in order to attend Charlie Kirk's memorial, in a prior episode. Tim asks why he should not just start a new channel, & use a VTuber avatar with a voice-changer, to protect himself, if ICE can mask up. Mind you, this whining is because ICE agents fighting cartels, human traffickers, & being actively shot at by leftists, get to wear masks. & Poor old Tim, who regurgitates the news, talking into a camera, from his isolated mountain compound cannot hide his face:
-Tim continues to demand people acknowledge his rightness, as the episode rolls on. Talk shifts to red states taking action to allow for civilian arrests of leftist militants, & "soft secession" by blue states. Phil says the federal government would have to pass something, rather than Trump enacting an executive order. Tim uses this to say that everyone is just saying how "We're in a civil war". When the panel tries to draw comparisons to other conflicts, this leads into the beanie boy attempting to browbeat Joseph into accepting that there were no frontlines in
the Spanish Civil War. According to Tim, it was a completely mixed-up conflict with Nationalists & Republicans intermixed over the country. Which is wrong. After the immediate start of the conflict, things were more pell-mell, with Nationalist-leaning army uprisings in their city garrisons, but most of these failed. By 1937, a few months into the Spanish Civil War, both sides coalesced into
two distinct geographic areas waging war against each other. Also, Tim tries to claim that Texas joined the Confederacy, because it would have no one to trade with, if they did not. Which is wrong. In its
Ordinance of Secession, Texas declared it was leaving the Union & joining with the Confederacy due to Northern attempts to abolish slavery, failure to curtail Indian raids, & Bleeding Kansas' impact on southern settlers. I could find no mention of fear about no one to trade with, as he alleges:
-A super-chatter explains that Tim has the benefit of being able to afford round-the-clock armed guards, unlike the average ICE agent. Naturally, the beanie boy takes this comment respectfully & with proper grace.
As if.
He decides to ask the super-chatter how much money they want "in exchange for someone threatening to murder your wife & child, and, and hunt you down & flay you alive", because that number would be enough for Tim to retire & hand off the show to them. This leads into Joseph setting off Tim by mentioning how he "crossed the Rubicon" into backing Trump, publicly, which entailed risks. Tim denies he ever changed, making a rather offended face to that remark. Even a cursory watcher of Tim noticed him shifting from admonishing Adam, the old co-host, for his pro-Trump talk; to now, openly advocating for Trump to become a dictator to quash his enemies. Tim goes on to impugn ICE agents claiming they are de-facto cowards for wearing masks, & only do the job for the paycheck:
Tate does push back on this, stating that they are facing real dangers, but Tim continues to call them weak for not going without a mask. The beanie boy claims he "stumbled into this" & did not ask to face death threats, & the masked ICE agents take "no risks" & receive a $50,000 signing bonus. It is such naked rancor on display, even I was surprised by it. & I think Tim realised he let too much slip, because he soon starts back-pedalling & agreeing with Tate that ICE agents do incur an immediate risk from their jobs, but specifies it is not the doxing risk, Tim does. But that Tim ego is not being put away, because he claims that he receives "more death threats than most other people", due to being the most effective in swaying people away from the left. According to Tim, the fact he is a skateboarding "liberal" Chicagoan, he can better convince people than a conservative man in a suit. Which is funny, because Charlie Kirk, a conservative man that dressed in a suit, probably swayed more young liberal people than Tim could dream of doing:
When Tim talks about his jealousy of others attending Charlie Kirk's memorial, but how he "can't" go. Joseph brings up the inconvenient fact that a lot of famous people did, despite the risks. Tim goes on a long
spiel about how his security assessment told him it would be impossible for him to safely go there. Joseph says he worked in security, & there are always risks but it should not force someone to bunker up, at home, forever. Tim begins badgering Joseph for his bonafides, before the guest agrees that if the assessment said that, "fair enough". All that, only for Tim to backtrack into saying he would be holed up in a hotel, besides attending the memorial, & it would cost $30,000, which Tim could not afford. The security costs for the
Iowa caucus live shows with Vivek Ramaswamy & was "$50, $60,000". Remember, Tim spent
$2 million on a skatepark for his compound. So either the finances of the Branch Timidians are much worse, now, or Tim is simply afraid to admit he was afraid to go. Also, Tim states that the reason he is always at casinos is because he is least likely to be killed there. After some more back-&-forth, Tim claims he could be doing marketing work, "half a million a year, working four hours a day", instead of this life he claims was thrust upon him. He now blames the threats for why he could not start a family, not the 2008 Financial Crash. The number of threats Tim faces are" 1000 times greater than the average person, even in law enforcement". He ends it with wanting people to not bully him for wanting more people to show their faces, like he does, & "to be threatened that way":
