Tim Pool - 'journalist' who claims to be a sensible centrist & sucks Sargon of Akkad's wiener; Afraid of the Milkshake ANTIFAs

[supremeautismo]

I don't know what you guys see in Adam, he was just a normal dude with a anime ark where he became redpilled to an almost embarrassing degree. The guy was nothing special.

As for Tom being a narcissist, yeah that's pretty obvious. Every video he just talks and talks "I did this, I did that, me me me, I know a lot, I used to skate, I was here, I was there, me me me, My company is doing great, thanks for asking" so on so on, at some point his commentary stops being from his perspective and becomes just about him specifically. Narcissists love inserting themselves into whatever they're talking about.

I like Adam's non political stuff, like when he talks about outer space and headier concepts. It's more fun and relaxed than Tim's constant doom and gloom. His set's more interesting too.

 

[Dreamer]

I don't even watch his show. But for me, it's simply that he's managing to carve out a niche in an already crowded and competitive media space. Whether that's by luck or sheer effort, that's what he's doing. You are what your achievements are. He's finding success, therefore he is a success. I'm happy for the dude.

Ah well i get that. I guess to me becoming efamous is just to chaotic to even see as an actual accomplishment. Im not going to complement somebodys skill for winning a lottery you know?

With Adam it was very much just the right kinda guy in the right place on the right time, he got his lucky break from Tims audience, was just charismatic enough to keep their interest and now hes doing his own thing (i don't know how well that's doing but if i were to guess id say he has something like 1/6th of Tims audience? just a guess gonna check later). If he establishes/ed his own audience that is not just timcast rejects then that would be actually impressive. Separations are notoriously hard to survive in showbusiness.

edit: alright so i was a bit optimistic, viewwise hes at 1/25th of timcast for actual podcasts but he seems really comfortable with the camera and i don't wanna be a grinch, hes doing alright imo.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

I don't know what you guys see in Adam, he was just a normal dude with a anime ark where he became redpilled to an almost embarrassing degree. The guy was nothing special.

It's pretty rare to find a Youtuber that isn't some kind of weirdo. By not being special, he became special. I'll agree that he's not that smart, but he doesn't disgust or infuriate me like many others do. Also, he'd seemed like he'd be lolcow material seeing as how he was a male model vegan man, but he comes across as far more normal than Fence Sitter Pool.

 

[Rekkington]

They think in "single variable" politics. Everything has been boiled down to a single point or cause. All other concerns can be hand waved away because "those are separate issues."

They are still using a "2D spectrum" of left and right while everyone else has accepted that personal politics can be a lot more complicated.

Kind of, but here's the problem I see with all of this: nobody believes in the center. And it's odd for me to say that since I've courted a well deserved reputation of being a fringe-right psycho, but it really needs to be said: without a strong middle class and a strong center, I do not believe democracy can exist. Some might say - including me - that the middle class was just a flash in the pan and was never present throughout history and might never be a natural thing again, but that is why democracy is so rare worldwide throughout time up until now. And without a center and without a middle class, all you have is revolution. Again and again. Constitutions being rewritten. Elections being contested because of fraud, then riots, we know this story. Where you don't see it is dictatorships and theocracies.

So Tim, Dave Rubin, a lot of them are making an aggressive play to make the center more cool and interesting. And they succeeded for a couple years. A lot of people remember that. Many people are still doing the "we just need to talk to each other" thing. What happens when all the conversations have been had? What if we've been having the same conversations for 100 years?
Tim Pool is trying to hold the line for "we just need to talk it out." The problem he is encountering - one that we are all remarking on - is that he is being forced to a side.
The people who say you don't need to pick a side, they're not paying attention, they're retards, they don't watch the news, they will be where Tim is in a year or so. Now Tim and the rest of the "centrists" wil likely waffle back and forth over time but in reality they are the ping pong balls of the people actually playing the game of politics. And nobody watching the game cares about the ball.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Kind of, but here's the problem I see with all of this: nobody believes in the center. And it's odd for me to say that since I've courted a well deserved reputation of being a fringe-right psycho, but it really needs to be said: without a strong middle class and a strong center, I do not believe democracy can exist. Some might say - including me - that the middle class was just a flash in the pan and was never present throughout history and might never be a natural thing again, but that is why democracy is so rare worldwide throughout time up until now. And without a center and without a middle class, all you have is revolution. Again and again. Constitutions being rewritten. Elections being contested because of fraud, then riots, we know this story. Where you don't see it is dictatorships and theocracies.

So Tim, Dave Rubin, a lot of them are making an aggressive play to make the center more cool and interesting. And they succeeded for a couple years. A lot of people remember that. Many people are still doing the "we just need to talk to each other" thing. What happens when all the conversations have been had? What if we've been having the same conversations for 100 years?
Tim Pool is trying to hold the line for "we just need to talk it out." The problem he is encountering - one that we are all remarking on - is that he is being forced to a side.
The people who say you don't need to pick a side, they're not paying attention, they're retards, they don't watch the news, they will be where Tim is in a year or so. Now Tim and the rest of the "centrists" wil likely waffle back and forth over time but in reality they are the ping pong balls of the people actually playing the game of politics. And nobody watching the game cares about the ball.

Machiavelli's comments about neutrality also applies to centrism. To add to that chapter, there are two basic problems that centrists have:

1. Low IQ "muh both sides." Blaming both sides, like blaming one side, is reasonable when it reflects reality. When it's clear that only one side is unjustified, it's just weaselly of the speaker and thus, they lose trust from both sides. For example, saying "muh both sides" in regards to CHAZ gets hate from both sides. The Left says, "What do you got against the Summer of Love?" while the Right says, "You support riots?" Some choices are binary and even social sciences demand binary choices when conducting statistics.

2. Core philosophical problems. What exactly is meant by "centrism?" In elevator pitch form, define the rhetoric any partisan uses.

Communism: Workers of the World, Unite!
Democrat: Welfare for the poor!
Republican: Less government regulations!
Libertarian: Legalize weed!
Centrism: I'm in the middle!

Any talk of policy is in service to these pitches. Centrism's problem is middle of what? Between Democrat and Republican, Republican and Libertarian, or Democrat and Communist? Sargon, Bret Weinstein, Sam Harris, Dave Rubin, and Tim Pool are all over the place in this regard. It's part of why IDW is so ineffective. For Sam Harris, Trump--who is Center Right--is completely unacceptable, so the choices he's got are between Communist and Democrat. What's in the middle of that? Higher taxes for everyone in his income bracket and more riots. For Dave Rubin, his center is easier, but they both ignore the Noblesse oblige society demands of the rich.

The result is as you observed; people calling in meetings to have meetings.

 

[Garm]

Kind of, but here's the problem I see with all of this: nobody believes in the center. And it's odd for me to say that since I've courted a well deserved reputation of being a fringe-right psycho, but it really needs to be said: without a strong middle class and a strong center, I do not believe democracy can exist. Some might say - including me - that the middle class was just a flash in the pan and was never present throughout history and might never be a natural thing again, but that is why democracy is so rare worldwide throughout time up until now. And without a center and without a middle class, all you have is revolution. Again and again. Constitutions being rewritten. Elections being contested because of fraud, then riots, we know this story. Where you don't see it is dictatorships and theocracies.

So Tim, Dave Rubin, a lot of them are making an aggressive play to make the center more cool and interesting. And they succeeded for a couple years. A lot of people remember that. Many people are still doing the "we just need to talk to each other" thing. What happens when all the conversations have been had? What if we've been having the same conversations for 100 years?
Tim Pool is trying to hold the line for "we just need to talk it out." The problem he is encountering - one that we are all remarking on - is that he is being forced to a side.
The people who say you don't need to pick a side, they're not paying attention, they're retards, they don't watch the news, they will be where Tim is in a year or so. Now Tim and the rest of the "centrists" wil likely waffle back and forth over time but in reality they are the ping pong balls of the people actually playing the game of politics. And nobody watching the game cares about the ball.

I was thinking more along the line of "Tim can be "centrist" but authoritarianism can be a hot button issue for him." That somehow those two things are mutually exclusive and impossible ideals to have at the same time.

You see that binary way of thinking in everything they do. "I am not a fascist, therefore anyone who disagrees with me must be a fascist." There is no room for nuance or compromise. You are with them or you are against them.

 

[DeadFish]

Centrism in current America is basically someone who believes its still the 1990s. Where extremists of today (and on both sides) want to tear the current government and society down and replace it with something else. Their motivations might vary but thats what they have in common.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

The guy was nothing special.

And he has no delusions about that.

That is the point.

 

[Drag-on Knight 91873]

Centrism in current America is basically someone who believes its still the 1990s. Where extremists of today (and on both sides) want to tear the current government and society down and replace it with something else. Their motivations might vary but thats what they have in common.

The 1990s was when most of our current problems started, such as building the Chinese economy under the Clinton administration and the sub-prime lending practices that led to the sub-prime mortgage crisis. Also, the Mexican economy crashed at this time when the peso got devalued when their country became politically unstable, leading to the shithole country it is now and the subsequent immigration crisis.

On the cultural front, the rise of political correctness in the education system, the rebirth of the noble savage historical revisionism, vague sexual harassment laws, and the rise of corporate culture and art rose to power. We see the results now with corporate censorship, corporations acting as countries not beholden to the Bill of Rights, and HR seminars that all employees must attend to learn about identity politics.

The 90s looked like a form of relief, but for people who actually lived through it, it was fake, plastic time devoid of the human component in art. At least, in America.

 

[D_Tractor]

 

[mindlessobserver]

Honestly....this is really good stuff. Really good sound, powerful visuals, easily understandable message. Genuine query though, didnt this song come out of a jam session with Adam?

 

[soryu]

Why am I not surprised a man who makes 3 hours of daily political content would also make political music

 

[mindlessobserver]

Why am I not surprised a man who makes 3 hours of daily political content would also make political music

Political music is big money. To be fair though, I like the message in this song. The vast majority of political music is "fight the power and then we win!". This is the first political music video I have seen that is uncompromising about what "fight the power" means, and then thinks about what happens when you win and become "the power".

I am gonna give credit where credit is due. It's a good song.

 

[Not Even Twice]

Well damn, Tim Pool can sing.

 

[Goobaalert]

I'm sorry but out of all the lolcows I think hes the most as esthetically pleasing one even. With. The. Beanie.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Well damn, Tim Pool can sing.

Yeah, I was thinking, no way that's his voice. But apparently it is when you compare to the raw jam session you can hear it. Obviously run through some very professional equipment and polished by a computer, but so is everyone these days.

 

[Don't Tread on Me]

Today is the day, everyone! Civil War 2 is coming, Tim isn't crazy!

Alright, I can't even with this lunatic.

Report me for double posting all you want, everyone look at this.

9:47 - "Now the Huffington Post is claiming this is an attempt to steal the election or stage a coup. A coup? Are you kidding? Are you implying that Trump and a small band of radical military personnel are going to storm into the White House and take it over? Because that would be more indicative of a coup, not Trump saying the Democrats are trying to steal the election."

His beanie must be pulling out more than just his hair. What a colossal take from Mr. "Small Brain People Think Civil War Means Two Sides Line Up and Shoot Each Other". So, you can redefine what a civil war is and then mock people who call you a sperg and a prepper, but when someone else exaggerates about the exact same struggle for power using slightly different language, you bust out the dictionary and go "akshually!"?

 

[Boobie Bomb]

Oh thank god for that. lol

 

[Goobaalert]

Today is the day, everyone! Civil War 2 is coming, Tim isn't crazy!

Naw more like America will become great or China will pwn our asses while were on a forced national lock down due to kung flu.

 

[Iron Hamster]

Ugh. He's back on the 'I'll get banned for mentioning something' schtick.