Titanic tourist submersible goes missing with search under way

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Betonhaus said:
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Connor is about to be turned into strawberry jam like the passengers of the OceanGate vessel. :story:
Well, at least he's going in alone instead of dragging other people into this shit. But I'm asking myself: Is this just an extremely expensive method of suicide? Technically, you're gone before the pain response is fired through the nervous system.
 
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To be fair, Triton is a company that actually has been around the block and has a bunch of achievements under their belt instead of an adventurous moron with a roll of carbon fiber with a clearance sticker on it. According to their website they already offer a turnkey acrylic bubble submarine that can withstand the Titanic depths, failing this would immediately nuke their product line and reputation.
 
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Seymour Duncan said:
To be fair, Triton is a company that actually has been around the block and has a bunch of achievements under their belt instead of an adventurous moron with a roll of carbon fiber with a clearance sticker on it. According to their website they already offer a turnkey acrylic bubble submarine that can withstand the Titanic depths, failing this would immediately nuke their product line and reputation.
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I was going to say that crew capsule is already light-years ahead of the cardboard tube Oceangate used and that whoever designed this at least understood the idea that a sphere maximises compressive strength. I think this guy might actually survive.
 
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Sperglord666 said:
They know how to build subs to withstand the pressure just fine. It just takes time and money. The problem with the Oceangate dumbass is he tried to cut corners. The corners he cut were unfortunately structural.
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The Titan, being constructed mainly out of economy grade drywall, unfortunately did not withstand the loads placed upon it.

This new one looks sensible (spherical pressure vessel!) and the company seems to know what they’re doing.
 
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The Man With No Name said:
I think in general the amount of information that we've now heard about the Oceangate sub seems to indicate it was by no means top of the line.

We know personal subs can make it down there, because James Cameron did it several times [mostly in 2001 and later in 2016, 33 dives overall] and made two separate documentaries with high end equipment.

Oceangate was just deciding to run the Daytona 500 in a clapped out Nissan Altima.
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Congrats, brother, this might be the funniest fucking thing I’ve read all night.

Now this retard is gonna run the race, BUT this time in a supped up used Toyota Corolla. It’ll go much better, promise.
 
My main problem with this new sub is the size. How is it going to fit all the needed supplies? Look at what the Alvin has, emergency thermal gear (the deep ocean is very cold, and this new sub is just a plastic bubble), medical equipment, fire suppression, and full face masks in case the sub gets filled with smoke, asphyxiant gasses, or various hazardous particulates and/or vapors. The last one is very important even if you somehow could expect almost immediate rescue, and you can't, as some of the stuff the masks protect you against can incapacitate you in less than 20 seconds and kill you in minutes. The masks in a sub need to be well sealed (shave your faces guys, the neck seals Ocean Gate used are not great), and either be high capacity/long duration filtration plus chemical oxygen generation or stored air, either standard air in a tank or an electronically controlled rebreather. Additionally you'd want backup batteries to attach directly to breaker-isolated circuits, but that might be pushing it for what's probably a one-time publicity stunt.
 
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My main problem with this new sub is the size. How is it going to fit all the needed supplies? Look at what the Alvin has, emergency thermal gear (the deep ocean is very cold, and this new sub is just a plastic bubble), medical equipment, fire suppression, and full face masks in case the sub gets filled with smoke, asphyxiant gasses, or various hazardous particulates and/or vapors. The last one is very important even if you somehow could expect almost immediate rescue, and you can't, as some of the stuff the masks protect you against can incapacitate you in less than 20 seconds and kill you in minutes. The masks in a sub need to be well sealed (shave your faces guys, the neck seals Ocean Gate used are not great), and either be high capacity/long duration filtration plus chemical oxygen generation or stored air, either standard air in a tank or an electronically controlled rebreather. Additionally you'd want backup batteries to attach directly to breaker-isolated circuits, but that might be pushing it for what's probably a one-time publicity stunt.
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It looks like the glass sphere is double-walled which should control temperature. I don't think this sub is intended for overnight trips considering that it seems that the sphere is literally the only living space on the sub. In fact it looks like it can detach so in case of an emergency it can discard most of the weight while retaining the floational equipment so it should rapidly ascend.

It's a death trap, but a better engineered one.
 
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Cool article in Wired about Oceangate:


It includes the plot that the Boeing engineers did, during the design process, which notably includes a ☠️ symbol.

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Like most startups, OceanGate was in constant need of funds. Rush was trying to save money wherever he could. Interns, who made up around a third of the engineering team, were paid as little as $13 an hour. (When a manager pointed out in 2016 that Washington’s minimum wage was just $9.47 an hour, Rush responded, “I agree we are high. $10 seems fair.”) Rush also downgraded the sub’s titanium components from aerospace grade 5 quality to weaker and cheaper grade 3, says one former employee.
 
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Surprised nobody posted this.

Titan submersible communication logs were fake, investigation finds​

It has been less than a year since a frantic search was launched to find the the ill-fated Titan submersible, which it was later discovered imploded during its journey to the Titanic, killing all five of its passengers. Now, the U.S. Coast Guard has determined a communication log between the vessel and its mothership was fake. The widely-shared transcript suggested the submersible crew struggled to return to the surface.

 
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