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Titpee / This is Thin Privilege - Morbidly Obese HAES Tumblrinas
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Thin privilege is existing.
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its like, especially people like this who have the "best" way with wordsIt's amazing, such a fucked-up way of thinking yet they type so coherently and explain things in such a matter-of-fact way.
The internet is a strange place, Kiwis.
or when they do post full naked pictures, they dont want you to reblog it if youre a fetish blog :/
you fail at life when youre too fat for a MRI
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So wait a minute. This blob wants specialist hospitals for fat people? Because bariatric ambulances that every local authority in England has to have these days aren't good enough? Here's a pro tip, if you have to have a specialist ambulance to transport your unfathomable bulk in the first place then the fact that if you make it to the hospital you're a collosal pain in the arse for trained professionals to treat is the least of your worries. Also, anesthetic is largely based on body weight and children are difficult to anesthetize because the functional dose and the lethal dose are fairly close together for such a little body. The flipside of that is that if you weight 600lbs you have to be pumped full of enough barbiturate to stun a bull elephant which, as anyone knows is a lethal poison that is used as a suicide drug at Dignitas. Most whales who go in for weight loss surgery have to sign massive amounts of paperwork that boils down to "If you get this surgery you will most likely die, have brain damage, die some more, die another way or most likely die. When you inevitably do, your family can't sue us because you are a walking talking version of one of those giant lumps of congealed fat sewage workers have to clean out of drains and have been made aware of the risks."
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The delusional entitlement of the extremely obese among us never stops amazing me.
But there are problems that go beyond just catering to people who have eaten themselves into a state that requires specialized care and equipment:
--MRIs will always be less effective at diagnosing conditions in the super or morbidly obese. People with subcutaneous fat that is more than 8 cm in thickness have a far reduced image quality and usefulness of the results because the magnetic rays simply cannot penetrate the fat well. You can build bigger MRI machines but there's no guarantee they will work. Obesity interfering with image quality in CAT and PET scans as well X-rays is also a problem.
--The extremely obese are a hazard to the staff who must perform MRIs, cat scans and X-rays. Moving them onto tables is difficult - many cannot climb small steps and cannot pull themselves onto a table that is at waist level, which means the staff must move them. That means those crane-like lifts must be used to transport the patient. The obesity epidemic has resulted in a surge in back injuries and torn ligaments in the staff who must move the morbidly obese.
--When an obese person who cannot stand or walk due to weight needs an MRI, the MRI scan requires the MRI tech, at least two other staff members to assist the patient into the lifting device and extra time to move a patient for an exam, far more time than it takes a person of normal weight to hop up on the table or moving a disabled person of normal weight. This effectively endures appointment times will run long and other patients may have to wait longer for their own procedures.
--Specialty equipment for children in no way compares to the items needed for the obese. MRIs work well on normal weight children and if the child cannot move the techs have a far easier time moving an 80 pound child versus a 400 pound adult.
--Simply making equipment larger often has issues beyond cost of the items. A table or gurney that will support 350 pounds requires more physics in design. But say it is simple to crap out a table that will transport and hold a 500 pound man. The hospital itself will require extreme renovation to use such equipment. Widened doorways throughout the entire hospital, toilet replacements demand a lot more open space between walls so the obese person isn't crammed against the wall, floor strength to support the much larger machines with fat people in them, and on and on. A gurney that can safely transport a patient who weighs in excess of 400 pounds can often weigh near 200 pounds, minimum. You get that huge cart, accompanied by techs, and the fat person in an elevator and you may be exceeding elevator limits so factor in new elevators as well.
So all these whining obese people want hyper-expensive equipment that may not work on them anyway due to subcutaneous fat, procedures that require two to four times the staff compared to people with normal weights, hospitals widening every door and reinforcing floors, and risk of staff injury in trying to treat them. That's far more reasonable to them than losing some weight.
But there are problems that go beyond just catering to people who have eaten themselves into a state that requires specialized care and equipment:
--MRIs will always be less effective at diagnosing conditions in the super or morbidly obese. People with subcutaneous fat that is more than 8 cm in thickness have a far reduced image quality and usefulness of the results because the magnetic rays simply cannot penetrate the fat well. You can build bigger MRI machines but there's no guarantee they will work. Obesity interfering with image quality in CAT and PET scans as well X-rays is also a problem.
--The extremely obese are a hazard to the staff who must perform MRIs, cat scans and X-rays. Moving them onto tables is difficult - many cannot climb small steps and cannot pull themselves onto a table that is at waist level, which means the staff must move them. That means those crane-like lifts must be used to transport the patient. The obesity epidemic has resulted in a surge in back injuries and torn ligaments in the staff who must move the morbidly obese.
--When an obese person who cannot stand or walk due to weight needs an MRI, the MRI scan requires the MRI tech, at least two other staff members to assist the patient into the lifting device and extra time to move a patient for an exam, far more time than it takes a person of normal weight to hop up on the table or moving a disabled person of normal weight. This effectively endures appointment times will run long and other patients may have to wait longer for their own procedures.
--Specialty equipment for children in no way compares to the items needed for the obese. MRIs work well on normal weight children and if the child cannot move the techs have a far easier time moving an 80 pound child versus a 400 pound adult.
--Simply making equipment larger often has issues beyond cost of the items. A table or gurney that will support 350 pounds requires more physics in design. But say it is simple to crap out a table that will transport and hold a 500 pound man. The hospital itself will require extreme renovation to use such equipment. Widened doorways throughout the entire hospital, toilet replacements demand a lot more open space between walls so the obese person isn't crammed against the wall, floor strength to support the much larger machines with fat people in them, and on and on. A gurney that can safely transport a patient who weighs in excess of 400 pounds can often weigh near 200 pounds, minimum. You get that huge cart, accompanied by techs, and the fat person in an elevator and you may be exceeding elevator limits so factor in new elevators as well.
So all these whining obese people want hyper-expensive equipment that may not work on them anyway due to subcutaneous fat, procedures that require two to four times the staff compared to people with normal weights, hospitals widening every door and reinforcing floors, and risk of staff injury in trying to treat them. That's far more reasonable to them than losing some weight.
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Thin privilege is when you're not so fat that you need all this specialist gear if you're taken ill or injured. Thin privilege is having to pay through increased insurance premiums and/or taxes for the specialist gear that is required to treat the fat as fuck. Thin privilege is having to live with friends or family members eat themselves into an early grave and the emotional fallout from same. Thin privilege is when you end up searching your soul day after day thinking, could I have done more to get this person off the self-destructive path they're on.
If that's a privilege I am a banana.
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It would be a great idea to have a hospital just for people that are 300+ pounds. It would have bariatric toilets, bigger beds, bigger machines, be staffed exclusively by fat doctors who can definitely run to you in a timely matter when you inevitably start coding after your fourth Big Mac of the day...
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This is a good point. What would happen if all these people demanding better treatment because they weigh far more than they should find themselves with hospital staffs made up of people exactly like them?
The super obese like Ragen Chastain love to crow about how being 200 pounds overweight is no big deal. They're healthy and have the exact same physical responses as fit and thin people, they say. Let's see what happens in a hospital where every staff member is a minimum of 100 pounds overweight. Surely they'll have the same stamina to perform chest compressions for extended periods of time. Racing to a code blue on the other side of the ward? Standing in one place for hours performing surgery? Staying up for 12 hour shifts that may require missing regular meal times? Supporting their own weight while assisting a super obese person to the toilet, turning the patient to avoid bed sores and to give them baths? All a piece of cake, according to the brain trusts behind TITP, NAFFA and every other pro-fat group.
If America continues to explode fatly, this may become a reality for the majority of Americans. As it is it's rare to find fit nurses anywhere but emergency rooms.
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Huh. I've heard nurses talk about how nice it is to have a normal-sized person to x-ray/MRI occasionally as opposed to the fatasses they apparently deal with frequently, but I never stopped to really think WHY its better and easier for them. Their comments make sense now. Thanks for the info, pal
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To further illustrate their plight, one complaint I've heard from MRI techs is how doctors will mark the area the scans need to focus on while the patient is standing. When horizontal, the fat rolls shift and the techs then have to sort of stretch the rolls back out and determine how that area initially marked translates when the patient is on his or her back. So they get this very fat person on the table, maybe using a crane, praying they don't wrench their backs, then they have to spend even more time playing connect the dots in the fat rolls.
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Not to mention that there are procedures that become increasingly more hazardous when done to an obese person. A local hospital killed an obese patient ring to a bone marrow sample. The heavier you get, the ess places you can get one from. They went to go thru her breast bone and pierced her heart. thin privledge apparently is bone marrow samples in your hip.
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Sadly for TITP, nature and physics are cruel, heartless bitches.
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I don't think "whoops" would cover that one, but it's not like this obese patient wasn't repeatedly warned that obesityou wasn't helping at all. Especially in light of how thin the sternum is and the general risk in using a drill near it.
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Let's just add "abundant" and "succulent" to the euphemism treadmill, shall we?
Some great fat lump said:
What it means to be fat is you are at increased risk of diabetes, heart attacks, strokes, joint problems, and myriad other health concerns. You know why there's an Overeaters Anonymous? Because a pathological inability to lay off the pies is a disease and an addiction just as dangerous as alcohol or drugs. It's got nothing to do with intersectional feminism.
Lardbucket said:
AKA "How not to gag when you lift up her apron and find yourself looking at an overstuffed ham sandwich with a maggot crawling out of the top."
To be fair, if this was encouraging fatties to lose weight through sexercise, I could get behind it. Sex is really good exercise if you do it properly. But it won't be.
A whale said:
Is this where you practice deflecting truncheon blows from the institutionally racist police with your fat rolls?
Man the harpoons said:
Okay, this is really making me angry. While it is true that BMI is a very crude measure as it only relies on two variables, it is well documented that extreme fatties need to stop stuffing their faces or they will die, probably of something easily preventable that could have been treated had there not been layers upon layers of lard in the way. Even what these triple idiots call "smallfats" are still at elevated risk. If you can't get up a flight of stairs without collapsing in a heap, this is self-evidently not healthy.
Imagine if someone made a Tumblr called "This is Sober Privilege" about how alcoholics are oppressed and need to be allowed to pickle their liver because Al-Anon and the recovery movement is all a racist sexist classist conspiracy. You'd be reeeeeee'd off the internets and rightly so.
From Hell's heart I stab at thee... said:
A pair of running shoes and a dietitian-authored healthy yet affordable meal plan, I hope. But that's a bit too optimistic, really.
Ugh. I'm loggin' off before I start to lose my shit about all this.
EDIT: Where's this going to be held? I'm a bit on the chunksome side, maybe I could infiltrate and report back on it all...
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I bet that pointing out that the risks of obesity have been recorded at least as far back as Ancient Greece would get autistic as fuck screeching that the Greeks were white, cis, homophobic shitlords who need of educate themselves.
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"Abundant"? "Succulent"?? May I puke ... I can't believe they're using "succulent" to positively describe a human being. But then, these are the devotees of fat.
One of the main tenets of "Health At Every Size" is that being healthy isn't a moral obligation. There's room for debate there -- I would agree so far as to say that just because I don't live on organic yoghurt and kale, or have the physique of a Greek god, that doesn't mean I am a bad person. But for all their whining about how society conflates being healthy with being "good", they sort of seem to do the same thing? Because if you insist that you don't need to be healthy to have a good life, then why are you also insisting that you *are* healthy at every (upward of overweight) size? The rather appropriate idiom here would be that they want to have their cake and eat it too. Or ... they don't want the cake, but they're eating it anyway. Something along those lines.
It feels like it fits with the general reasoning of your average post-modern, whacko left 'absolute relativist'. I'd bet that if a HAES advocate who collapsed in a heap after climbing a set of stairs was confronted about it, they'd argue that, actually, they were 100% healthy by their own bespoke, non-standardised, uninstitutionalised, lovingly hand-crafted, locally sourced and free range definition of "health".
One of the main tenets of "Health At Every Size" is that being healthy isn't a moral obligation. There's room for debate there -- I would agree so far as to say that just because I don't live on organic yoghurt and kale, or have the physique of a Greek god, that doesn't mean I am a bad person. But for all their whining about how society conflates being healthy with being "good", they sort of seem to do the same thing? Because if you insist that you don't need to be healthy to have a good life, then why are you also insisting that you *are* healthy at every (upward of overweight) size? The rather appropriate idiom here would be that they want to have their cake and eat it too. Or ... they don't want the cake, but they're eating it anyway. Something along those lines.
It feels like it fits with the general reasoning of your average post-modern, whacko left 'absolute relativist'. I'd bet that if a HAES advocate who collapsed in a heap after climbing a set of stairs was confronted about it, they'd argue that, actually, they were 100% healthy by their own bespoke, non-standardised, uninstitutionalised, lovingly hand-crafted, locally sourced and free range definition of "health".