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You all ready for a "dumb" and "Autistic" Exceptional answer?

Well the true story of phils fan discord is that a person with no almost no relations to the community was given the tast to create it.
And the vultures quickly swooped in to just sabotage the whole thing of their own admission.
Phil wasn't the one who created it so he deserved it.
They pretended to be fans, or neutral to phil. And used pseudonyms to convince the person tasked with creating the server that this was supposed to be a place of freedom. And that they where tired of the nazis and strict moderation of the streamchat. All the way lying about who they actually where. Which was the case with several individuals in there.
I couldn't recognize anyone of the mods. Just the person tasked to make the server in the first place.
And a person known in the community for harassing supporters.
Talking with them they could not give me any frame of reference at all. It was just like they where new to the internet.
And people told me this wasn't going to be a place where only supporters could be. Everyone had to be welcome.
So this could be a neutral heaven where people with opposing viewpoints could live together in harmony.
The only way you can have a place like that. Would mean You can't talk about phil at all. Ban the subject completely of phil completely.
Or else you have just two opposing viewpoints forced under the same umbrella.
And the place wasn't going to be moderated. Not only that but several of the actual supporters of phil had been ran of the server before I ever got there.
Because of the "freedom" principles. One person where even banned for defending phil against a hater.
Not to be captain obvious. But I don't think that is what phil envisioned out of a "fan discord"
But sure, let's run with the narrative that I destroyed it. When I only pointed out the obvious.
I only suggested it take it's own course and not try to be a fan server at all. Because it was obviously not working as intended.
Which was exactly what happened.
You do realize you're on a website many people accuse of being a bunch of mean people making fun of others on the Internet, and we're incredibly civil to one another, right?

Maybe you could learn something from that. Every community Phil (or someone like you) controls is a community where any slightly dissenting or differing opinion gets the user permanently excommunicated. Take yesterday for example. DSP is going on about how the devs did a bad job with COD:WWII and someone in the chat has the fucking AUDACITY to say they think they devs did a good job. DSP immediately calls the person out and asks why mods aren't permanently banning him from the chat. You know why randoms you don't know are (well, were) part of this Discord's creation? Because they don't want to socialize under the ever present threat of being fucked- FOREVER- out of the relationships they've developed with people because one person (like Phil or you) don't like what they said.

Who the fuck do you think you are to have that power over people or demand that someone with your lack of tolerance does?
 
I didn't have a problem with it being any way what so ever. I encouraged the people to not be restricted by stupid rules which they didn't want.
They where the once pretending to be something they where not.
I just said that it wouldn't work as a fan discord for phil. As far as I know the server was fine and people enjoyed talking shit about phil, just as in the main thread about him on this forum before I left.
So i don't see why you or anyone have a problem.

This is why people don't treat BSV like an adult. That's a really blatant and sad attempt to deflect.
 
I am starting to get the feeling I don't care about anything, which is what would happen when you're just put through the kiwifarms experience a couple of times. Glad to see my best friend Bryan is back though.
 
I am starting to get the feeling I don't care about anything, which is what would happen when you're just put through the kiwifarms experience a couple of times. Glad to see my best friend Bryan is back though.
Humor me, why the blind loyalty to Phil?

No one is above criticism, a hugbox is always doomed to failure.
Someone who shuts down criticism with discussion/adressing it, using the ban hammer instead of defending yourself does not deserve a fanbase or anyone to be loyal to him.
If someone doesn't address criticism, not because he's unable to, but because he doesn't want to, does not deserve to be defended.
Phil is a grown man, he can defend himself. You white knighting him is more detrimental than useful in the long run.
 
If the topic you want to discuss is moderation. Maybe this isn't the right venue. And that is all I will say about that.

I'm assuming the correct venue is one where you have access to a ban/delete button and no one else does?
 
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I am starting to get the feeling I don't care about anything, which is what would happen when you're just put through the kiwifarms experience a couple of times. Glad to see my best friend Bryan is back though.
You clearly care enough to try to be a mod in everything with Phil's name.. People are asking you why you care that much and you're just deflecting.

Personally, I am beginning to sense that I was on the money earlier.. You really love the feeling of being the primary force that decides Phil's wellbeing. Almost like you're his parent or something.

You do realize that Phil will give no shits about you as soon as you stop pledging for any reason, right?
 
I was writing a really long winded answer. But I will keep it simple.
I just find him entertaining. I found him in a unconventional way. And I wasn't a mega fan of phil to begin with.
It's was just observing that people was really unreasonable towards phil, and how some people first talked to me when I first started supporting phil.
I first only supported phil with like 20$ and the thought was to ask him a silly question on ask the king.
That just instantly put me on some kind of hater list.
And over such a silly thing of supporting a streamer some people didn't like.
People started sending me the Anthology of all the mistakes phil had done ever.
And thought I was a stupid fucking idiot not agreeing with their views on phil.
Well what can i say?
Of course phil had made some mistakes, but to me personally he had just been cool. And was a source of entertainment.
I like to judge people with my own experiences. And what most people where doing was just Grandstanding.
"We can all agree on that phil is an asshole, he is such a terrible person, and I am so much cooler then him he doesn't deserve what his got and we will shut him down"
Some people also go way to far in the endeavor.
Phil isn't political, not religious, and doesn't often say polarizing things at all.
The real issue is just what seems to be Petty Envy.
Now when I see this, I naturally Empathize with phil. Because the people going after him is not a victim of phil. In fact he doesn't want any interaction with most these people at all.
And with information about some of the more demented individuals on the phil hate bandwagon I have read here. It is obvious that they have done more then just point and laugh!
So with all the shit people have put him through, and he is being put through on a daily basis.
I think he deserves the support.
And although I am sad he don't do game reviews and edited content anymore. I still think he is an entertaining streamer.
There is no deeper truth to the matter.
I can say that the absolute insanity with king of pol was pretty damn exhausting.
Where a mentally deranged individual was given positive encouragement making up lies, and defamatory statements about me for almost 6 months. Just because he claimed not to like Phil.
He really helped stating the point that some people don't really care about phil, but the attention they get talking shit about him.
I am glad it ended in such a hilarious matter though. Just telling him he wasn't married. "no fair guys plz stop!"
 
The real issue is just what seems to be Petty Envy.

Tbf some idiots like Fred Fuchs were actually probably envious because they didn't realize how shit Phil's life is.

But I don't think anyone on this forum would want to switch places with Phil, a man who makes around $80k a year and survives off of hungry man's because he's not man enough to admit his mistakes and therefore is in a terrible situation financially.
 
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I feel fairly sure this is a troll post to emphasise that Phil has no IRL friends, which is absolutely depressing to consider - I'd be astonished if he actually did have IRL friends that he somehow found time for in between streaming and binge-watching TV while drinking alone until 5am every single day.

Guaranteed he considers fast food workers friends cos they're so used to seeing him there. Idiot needs to reevaluate what's important in his life before he gets genuine depression over how shit life currently is for him.
 
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