War Tom Cotton: Democrats Want Pandemic Voting Practices to Be Permanent, National - Legalizing 2020 after the fact

Yes, Breitbart is the source. Deal with it.

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/01/21/tom-cotton-democrats-want-pandemic-voting-practices-be-permanent-national/

Democrats seek permanent nationalization of changes to voting practices ostensibly implemented as pandemic safety measures, Sen. Tom Cotton (R-AR) said Thursday in an interview on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Daily with host Alex Marlow.

Marlow asked how to restore election integrity given the imposition of automatic voter registration and sending of mail-in ballots to addresses on inaccurate voter rolls.

Cotton replied, “The bad news is that [House Speaker] Nancy Pelosi and [Senate Majority Leader] Chuck Schumer want to take what were unusual, rushed voting practices in the middle of a pandemic last year and make them permanent. That’s the first bill they’ve introduced. They’re trying to make vote-by-mail universal across the country, override 50 states’ election laws, eliminate not only photo identification, but signature verification, require mandatory registration. This is a left wing wish list.”
Republican majorities in state legislatures are the best asset in restoring election integrity, Cotton assessed.

“Washington is not going to have a solution to this problem, but it is real problem,” Cotton remarked. “The good news is in many of the states where Democratic governors made big changes at the last minute, those legislatures are in session today, and those legislatures are controlled by Republicans in places like Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin and Minnesota.”

Cotton continued, “Georgia and Arizona [do] not just [have] Republican legislatures, but Republican governors, as well. I’ve already spoken to Republican leaders in Washington about giving those legislators the support they need, the lawyers, the expertise to help tighten up their election laws so they’re not in the situation again where they were last year where the Democratic governor has the power to unilaterally make changes without the legislature in session, and therefore the legislature can’t do anything about it.”

Cotton concluded, “I think it has to be a very high priority for Republican legislatures across the country to ensure that what were unusual and rush changes to our election practices in a once-in-a-century pandemic are never repeated again.”

H.R. 1, dubbed the “For the People Act,” would nationally mandate automated mailing out of ballots to registered voters for elections while prohibiting states from having photo-ID requirements for ballot submission or signature verification of ballots.

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This is pretty much an admission that the 2020 election was indeed rigged rule-wise. Ballot harvesting is illegal in the vast majority of states (California being a notable exception), but a way to get around that is to claim to be a kind charity who helps people stuck inside due to covid register to vote. These registrations should never have been allowed, as there is no verification process for them beyond trusting the "charity" who was behind the registrations. Many of the addresses were found to be nursing homes, abandoned buildings, or non-residences. This was explicitly Stacy Abram's strategy in Georgia, something nobody was allowed to question because "no standing", and now they plan to expand it to Texas - which I'm sure the GOPe will just allow to happen because they don't want to be called racist.

Enjoy the future of American politics being "who has the bigger political machine to ballot harvest harder", because that's California and it works "great". It doesn't just benefit democrats, it benefits existing political machines and puts populist candidates of either party at a huge disadvantage.

 

[Spoonge]

Having spent an hour reading some of this thing, it definitely loosens in person voting, it doesn’t explicitly ban photo ID, but it says states can’t refuse an in person ballot based on it, rendering it pointless.

The mail in stuff is interesting, the mandatory signature validation requires two trained observers to reject and then the poll workers must attempt to get the voter to cure the ballot. I can’t see that going well. States basically can’t restrict mail in ballots either. Making local governments pay for postage for a federal election is kind of a dick move.

Then a shit ton of voter drives for strongly democrat groups, universities, high schools, felons, etc.

A shit ton of campaign finance reform. Changes to the FEC to make it not an even party vote.

Lots of weird small things like DC statehood and a code of ethics for the Supreme Court.

Eliminates use of taxpayer money to settle sexual harassment claims. Pretty funny.

Lots of “Non partisan districting commissions”

Didn’t get a single republican vote last time. They probably could if they cut out the obvious Dem recruitment.

"DC statehood" Is not a weird small thing. Thats how the Dems get a guaranteed two extra seats in the senate and however many EC votes Washington would be worth because D.C is a hive of scum and bureaucrats that overwhelmingly vote dem.
Its them stacking the deck even more.

 

[DtoDab]

Well ya don't sign off on that shit, for one. Then ya don't act like there was all of this foul play after the fact when ya lost, for two.

They had months to get that shit straightened out. Even had a little trial run in there with the primaries. Where was their federal cases then? Them being lazy bullshitters goes back a lot farther than just November. We're talking years of being ineffective. Like I said, shit wouldn't have mattered if they got the voter roles purged like they are supposed to.

The local yokel GOPers aren't as innocent as ya think. Incumbents like their dirty voting too. Don't act like dems are the only ones who can stuff a ballot box. Shit's broken because they want it to be.

I don't disagree with most of that.

I believe large scale fraud was only facilitated by years of politicians from both sides of the spectrum benefitting from it at the local level, both democrats and republicans kept it going as long as it was kept relatively hidden. democrats just rigged it better with the media in 2020.

however now that the 2020 elections have numbers that make it look like the Zimbabwean democracy, the dam of fraud was burst to a level that is impossible to pretend it doesn't exist, this directly affects the voter base because it breaks the "spell" of fairness, this is not good for the stablishment at ALL.

it seems to be the old tale of the democractic party going for nuking protections that benefitted both parties only thinking in the short term victories, now that more than half of the country thinks the elections are a load of bullshit, where do you go from there?

 

[symantec]

Republicans won't. I've said it multiple times. The GOP primaries in 2022 are going to be bloody.
Also, because the Republicans are terminally cucked, they're just as likely to reinstate the filibuster because hurr durr.

I disagree. I feel like we'll see a repeat of 2010 and 2014 in the same year. But this is only my opinion, and it means absolutely nothing.

Spoiler: TL;DR: I disagree with extra paragraphs.

Partisans of the party in power trend towards lackluster election turnout. This will especially be the case if Biden over promises and under delivers. Which is already occurring. Biden will have to deal with the fallout of the Covid economy, and his economic policies will absolutely not deliver. Massive and immediate inflation, gas prices, job loss, potential war on multiple fronts, it's a lot. His party will continue to see their divide escalate, and with Trump not in the picture as president they no longer have a unifying message to keep the anti-trump coalition they built. This is just the cliff-notes version.

What are the republicans up to? They're redistricting, and they've been doing so for a long time, and they control a slim majority of state legislatures. This is enough to marginally swing favor for whoever wins whatever "bloody" primary. They are disorganized when it comes to defense, but when it comes to offense they have the tried and true Newt Gingrich Method™ and that method is especially powerful when they're out of power (so long as they have the right leaders). McDaniel and McCarthy are some of the most effective leaders their party has ever seen, to the point they effectively gained the largest voter turnout in their party's history.

Combine these two scenarios with angry, sperging, fearful republican voters. The democrats only stand a chance if they play the waiting game. They aren't, and they're doing their best to set themselves up for failure in two years. If anything has been proven true in the last 12 years it's that voters don't want change, they just want to feel validated. Right now Democrats are feeling pretty validated right now, so they can relax now right?

 

[NeroRisotto]

I disagree. I feel like we'll see a repeat of 2010 and 2014 in the same year. But this is only my opinion, and it means absolutely nothing.

Spoiler: TL;DR: I disagree with extra paragraphs.

Partisans of the party in power trend towards lackluster election turnout. This will especially be the case if Biden over promises and under delivers. Which is already occurring. Biden will have to deal with the fallout of the Covid economy, and his economic policies will absolutely not deliver. Massive and immediate inflation, gas prices, job loss, potential war on multiple fronts, it's a lot. His party will continue to see their divide escalate, and with Trump not in the picture as president they no longer have a unifying message to keep the anti-trump coalition they built. This is just the cliff-notes version.

What are the republicans up to? They're redistricting, and they've been doing so for a long time, and they control a slim majority of state legislatures. This is enough to marginally swing favor for whoever wins whatever "bloody" primary. They are disorganized when it comes to defense, but when it comes to offense they have the tried and true Newt Gingrich Method™ and that method is especially powerful when they're out of power (so long as they have the right leaders). McDaniel and McCarthy are some of the most effective leaders their party has ever seen, to the point they effectively gained the largest voter turnout in their party's history.

Combine these two scenarios with angry, sperging, fearful republican voters. The democrats only stand a chance if they play the waiting game. They aren't, and they're doing their best to set themselves up for failure in two years. If anything has been proven true in the last 12 years it's that voters don't want change, they just want to feel validated. Right now Democrats are feeling pretty validated right now, so they can relax now right?

Except most of the swing states have Dem Governors and Dem Supreme Courts that will cockblock any attempts at gerrymandering.

 

[symantec]

Except most of the swing states have Dem Governors and Dem Supreme Courts that will cockblock any attempts at gerrymandering.

there's nothing the courts and the governorship have been able to do thus far, and it's unlikely the legislatures will pass anything unconstitutional that will cause that to happen.

 

[LurkTrawl]

where do you go from there?

Well I think we all know where we go from here. America was fun but the project's not going to last much longer.

 

[The Great Autismo]

Combine these two scenarios with angry, sperging, fearful republican voters. The democrats only stand a chance if they play the waiting game. They aren't, and they're doing their best to set themselves up for failure in two years. If anything has been proven true in the last 12 years it's that voters don't want change, they just want to feel validated. Right now Democrats are feeling pretty validated right now, so they can relax now right?

The Democrats will annihilate the economy in the next four years and work overtime to destroy our personal liberties. A quick look at the headlines tells you that they're going to keep COVID going, likely indefinitely. Trust in media and the government is rapidly imploding and everyone, including your local nutjob Leftist, knows that it's getting extremely bad and everyone's afraid to admit that they know who the fault lies with.

But they won't lose any further elections because the media and the court system is going to cover up the hilariously blatant fraud that will now infest all important elections from now on. There's no voting them out no matter how bad it gets.

 

[NeroRisotto]

there's nothing the courts and the governorship have been able to do thus far, and it's unlikely the legislatures will pass anything unconstitutional that will cause that to happen.

Actually the Gov can veto pretty much anything the legislatures cooks up, like how PA Governor Tom Wolf vetoed every attempt at stripping his emergency powers. The legislatures may be red but not red enough to override a veto.

 

[symantec]

The Democrats will annihilate the economy in the next four years and work overtime to destroy our personal liberties. A quick look at the headlines tells you that they're going to keep COVID going, likely indefinitely. Trust in media and the government is rapidly imploding and everyone, including your local nutjob Leftist, knows that it's getting extremely bad and everyone's afraid to admit that they know who the fault lies with.

But they won't lose any further elections because the media and the court system is going to cover up the hilariously blatant fraud that will now infest all important elections from now on. There's no voting them out no matter how bad it gets.

To address the first item, yes I agree there will be stark economic downturn from here on out. For several years, including under any potential republican administration.

To address the second item, in order to pull off a massive voter fraud in every battleground congressional and senate race is an undertaking not accomplished easily or cheaply. Yes there will be fraud, there has been fraud since the inception of voting in the US, to what extent depends solely on fundraising and black-money donors. The way I see it, things hit a peak in 2020, the Democrats can only accomplish a downward spiral unless by a miracle their policies don't effect peoples' day-to-day living. The people who don't vote are the ones to watch out for in this coming midterm.

Either way it will be fun to watch the fuckery yet again from the sidelines.

 

[symantec]

Actually the Gov can veto pretty much anything the legislatures cooks up, like how PA Governor Tom Wolf vetoed every attempt at stripping his emergency powers. The legislatures may be red but not red enough to override a veto.

You're assuming that democrats in every legislature are safe in the seats they'll be trying to retain in the coming election, which is far, far from the truth. You also assume that the districts currently favor the democrats, they do not, if they even were to leave most swing state districts alone, it favors republicans in the upcoming political climate.

I've traveled to PA, MA, and Iowa specifically since the election. The legislatures tend to get their way unless it pertains to something lobbyists have a grip on. The courts are upholding the legislatures' latest lawsuit in PA as well, so we'll see where that goes.

 

[NeroRisotto]

You're assuming that democrats in every legislature are safe in the seats they'll be trying to retain in the coming election, which is far, far from the truth. You also assume that the districts currently favor the democrats, they do not, if they even were to leave most swing state districts alone, it favors republicans in the upcoming political climate.

I've traveled to PA, MA, and Iowa specifically since the election. The legislatures tend to get their way unless it pertains to something lobbyists have a grip on. The courts are upholding the legislatures' latest lawsuit in PA as well, so we'll see where that goes.

Take a good look at this article and tell me what you think.

I also like to say fuck Tom Wolf for being a tyrant and using his Dem-majority SC to create last-minute election laws out of thin air.

 

[symantec]

Take a good look at this article and tell me what you think.

I also like to say fuck Tom Wolf for being a tyrant and using his Dem-majority SC to create last-minute election laws out of thin air.

Lol'd at the part they had the University of Oklahoma prof in there.

But no, this article is fearbait. The process can become rocky at some point, and may entail media coverage causing some uproar in the summer months, but I see nothing here to change my mind about how the fruits of this process will end up.

This however...

A constitutional amendment proposed by Rep. Russ Diamond, R-Lebanon County, would require appellate court judges to run in regional judicial districts, rather than statewide contests. The districts would be solely drawn and governed by state lawmakers.

...Is the most retarded thing I've ever seen, the amount of bullshit that would go into electing appellate judges would skyrocket because regional based politics can be easily screwed with if it's a big enough race.

 

[NeroRisotto]

But no, this article is fearbait. The process can become rocky at some point, and may entail media coverage causing some uproar in the summer months, but I see nothing here to change my mind about how the fruits of this process will end up.

So you think if this process drags out long enough, the gov and SC will say "fuck it" and give them what they want?

I dunno man. Reps cuck themselves out of power more than Dems do.

 

[symantec]

So you think if this process drags out long enough, the gov and SC will say "fuck it" and give them what they want?

I dunno man. Reps cuck themselves out of power more than Dems do.

The latter half of this quote is something I think a lot of people agree with, but the fact of the matter is politics is exhausting on both sides and people only do things when they're under pressure. The republican legislatures are way further to the right than congress, I guess you and I just get to see how it plays out eventually.

 

[The Great Autismo]

To address the second item, in order to pull off a massive voter fraud in every battleground congressional and senate race is an undertaking not accomplished easily or cheaply. Yes there will be fraud, there has been fraud since the inception of voting in the US, to what extent depends solely on fundraising and black-money donors. The way I see it, things hit a peak in 2020, the Democrats can only accomplish a downward spiral unless by a miracle their policies don't effect peoples' day-to-day living. The people who don't vote are the ones to watch out for in this coming midterm.

How much is too much money or effort to have total control over the most powerful nation possibly in human history? Politicians are narcissists; they aren't just gonna take their ball and go home or stabilize their power, they're gonna keep cheating to stay in power and they're gonna use their two years having all the three branches of power to do as much as they can to make the fraud legal. Hell, they're already getting ready for 2022 with this permanent pandemic bullshit; the entire point of mail-in from the very beginning was so that Election Day would turn into Election Week.

 

[symantec]

How much is too much money or effort to have total control over the most powerful nation possibly in human history? Politicians are narcissists; they aren't just gonna take their ball and go home or stabilize their power, they're gonna keep cheating to stay in power and they're gonna use their two years having all the three branches of power to do as much as they can to make the fraud legal. Hell, they're already getting ready for 2022 with this permanent pandemic bullshit; the entire point of mail-in from the very beginning was so that Election Day would turn into Election Week.

Don't give fallible human beings credit they don't deserve. People are people no matter what, and there are way too many variables in life to be absolutely definitive about anything. After 2020 I don't think the energy, money, and favor exists in favor of democrats, corruption or not. But as I stated before, I could be completely wrong.

 

[The Great Autismo]

Don't give fallible human beings credit they don't deserve. People are people no matter what, and there are way too many variables in life to be absolutely definitive about anything. After 2020 I don't think the energy, money, and favor exists in favor of democrats, corruption or not. But as I stated before, I could be completely wrong.

I understand humans are totally irrational and the establishment is so far up it's own ass that it could blow the whole thing at any moment, but this is a monumental political machine that has tons of moving parts that are all totally dedicated to keeping the machine going at all costs for personal gain. I think it's beyond the point where we could just hope the thing falls apart, even the reveal that they had a pedophile island didn't really get any blowback.

 

[murdered meat bag]

The fuck are you talking about? None of what you typed in is remotely similar to eliminating election security protocols.

Yes, you don't like Democracy, like most fucking retards. You don't want to live in a democracy get the fuck out of America. Isn't that what you fags keep saying? Don't like how we do things? Maybe you should fucking move?

Fighting tooth and nail by bitching on a lolcow forum where your presence is only tolerated because Null actually has a set of beliefs he adheres to, unlike you fucking morons.

we're a republic. it's why we have an electoral college.

Take a good look at this article and tell me what you think.

I also like to say fuck Tom Wolf for being a tyrant and using his Dem-majority SC to create last-minute election laws out of thin air.

pretty sure the GOP usually win gerrymanding districts. At least that's why democrats hate the shit.

the only way fight poor governance is the tax protest. i wonder if the states could mandate a single unified state/federal w4 mandating businesses pay the 941 payments to a state processor who will then pay the IRS on behalf of the tax payer. Goes as normal for a few years and then the state withholds everything. impractical but a man can dream.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Yes, you don't like Democracy, like most fucking retards.

You'd have to genuinely be retarded to like democracy after seeing damn near every single western nation collapsing as a direct result of it.

 

[DeadFish]

we're a republic. it's why we have an electoral college.



pretty sure the GOP usually win gerrymanding districts. At least that's why democrats hate the shit.

the only way fight poor governance is the tax protest. i wonder if the states could mandate a single unified state/federal w4 mandating businesses pay the 941 payments to a state processor who will then pay the IRS on behalf of the tax payer. Goes as normal for a few years and then the state withholds everything. impractical but a man can dream.

The problem with a tax protest is they will take it from you one way or another. Its not like please come to the counter to pay your library fine. The swiping is involuntary.

The only way you can "tax protest" is go full on civil disobedience by getting your self locked up. Do a petty crime and go to prison.

You wont pay taxes and you'll be ahead of the curve if they do decided to arrest people for wrong speech. Not to mention youll be eating up their resources