Law Town in Illinois bans assault weapons - $1,000 a day fine for not giving up your guns to the government

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Residents of Deerfield, Ill., have until June 13 to hand over their assault weapons—or else face hefty fines.

Deerfield Mayor Harriet Rosenthal ordered the new legislation after a gunman entered a Parkland, Fla., school with an AR-15 and shot 17 people dead on Feb. 14.

“I believe the time has now come to revisit a complete ban of assault weapons,” Rosenthal said in a press release.

Local politicians contend that assault weapons are “not reasonably necessary to protect an individual’s right or self-defense.”

The Deerfield Village board unanimously approved the legislation, which is set to take effect on June 13.

Residents who violate the ban by not rescinding their weapons by then will be fined up to $1,000 per day for each offense.

The ordinance could be challenged on constitutional grounds, but a similar law passed in Highland Park, Ill., in 2013 survived in court.

Local high school student Ariella Kharasch said she supports the new legislation.

“This is our fight,” she told the Chicago Tribune. “This is our generation’s fight. We’re going to keep fighting and this is part of it. Change happens gradually step by step. The fight does not end at the borders of our village,” she said.

Rosenthal praised survivors of the school shooting for their advocacy.

“Enough is enough,” she said. “Those students are so articulate just like our students. There is no place here for assault weapons.”

Opponents of the ordinance claim it infringes upon their second amendment rights.

“First it’s going to be assault rifles. [There will be] new bans in the future. It’s just a matter of time,” resident Larry Nordal told the Chicago Tribune.
 
I'm not too familiar with American law. Can a town actually decide to ban certain weapons?

They can, but then they will get their ass kicked in higher courts.

It's just virtue signalling.

lol what the hell is an assault weapon? A weapon I can commit an assault with? This is why you don't write laws using buzzwords because it comes off as incredibly half-assed.

M16 - automatic. Assault rifle.
AR-15 - semi automatic. Not an assault rifle.

Really not hard to tell the difference, but to every anti-gun nut a .22LR semi-auto is an assault rifle.

I ain't charging a position with an AR-15.
 
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If it lists things by trade name and by specific pieces and lengths, its likely to withstand a court challenge.

A vague blanket ban that only said "no assault rifles" would not.

Lookimg it over, its specific enough to be legal, because it is just the AWB all over again. Which means it wont have any measurable effect, either.

Good for you banning the PSG1, a Police marksman rifle that, at over five figures per unit to buy, is a favorite of the criminal community and has surely been used to kill thousands of people a year in rooftop sniping incidents.....
 
Everybody in the town should be ashamed of themselves. They're all honorary Canadians as far as I'm concerned.

M16 - automatic. Assault rifle.
AR-15 - semi automatic. Not an assault rifle.

Really not hard to tell the difference, but to every anti-gun nut a .22LR semi-auto is an assault rifle.

I ain't charging a position with an AR-15.

I'm not sure this is correct. They banned "assault weapons," not "assault rifles." As far as I can remember (not a lawyer, obviously), in the U.S. "assault weapon" has a ludicrous legal meaning that doesn't even involve the firing capabilities of the weapon, just how it looks. Folding stocks, "military-style," etc.
 
I'm not sure this is correct. They banned "assault weapons," not "assault rifles." As far as I can remember (not a lawyer, obviously), in the U.S. "assault weapon" has a ludicrous legal meaning that doesn't even involve the firing capabilities of the weapon, just how it looks. Folding stocks, "military-style," etc.
i'm trying my darndest to not sperg out, but last time i checked the classification of an "assault weapon" comes down to the rifle having a muzzle device, pistol grip, and adjustable stock.
that means this is an assault weapon
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but this isn't, despite being almost the same exact fucking thing.
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Fucking fibs if anyone ever wondered why literally everyone else in the Midwest hates people from Illinois here you go.
 
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classification of an "assault weapon"
Josh Sugarmann of the Violence Policy Center invented the term "assault weapon" in order to conflate modern sporting firearms with military issued infantry weapons in a paper he wrote titled "Assault Weapons and Accessories in America" in Jan 1989 after a California shooting (Cleveland school shooting) where a disturbed man with many years of criminal history killed 5 and wounded 30. this man also used a typical autoloading pistol and molotov cocktail (and an explosive packed vehicle), neither of which is generally mentioned in assault weapon legislation.

the definition of the term varies greatly from state to state, town to town, law to law, and year to year.

the most common features that are used to describe an assault weapon are:
1. semi-automatic (most firearms made in the last century)
2. pistol grip (every pistol ever made and most longarms made past 1950)
3. barrel shroud (a safety device that encirles the barrel to prevent burns. you see this on mufflers or stoves or blowtorches).
4. magazine over 10 rounds (or the ability to accept one, which is an arbitrary number invented by Bill Ruger who famously said that no one needed more than 10 rounds in a magazine).
5. folding or collapsing stock (furniture used to adjust a firearm to fit a person more comfortably so they maintain control over a discharging firearm better. arguably a safety feature in the same way an adjustable driver's seat is).

rather amusingly, an actual M16 wouldn't meet the most common definition as it isn't semi-automatic.

by ensuring the majority of people are inundated with technical-sounding jargon that has no basis in reality, and that jargon is a language that is used explicitly to conflate two objects that are superficially similar: that language then becomes a tool used to push an agenda and have useful idiots parrot the talking points with the assurance of their own ignorance protecting them.
 
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It's simple: they are afraid of guns and therefore want them to go away. Fear makes people irrational.

And yet it's the gun owners who are supposed to be "afraid of the government" or whatever. Even if that is the case, these people have absolutely no sense of history whatsoever.
 
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