Toxic Positivity - Glurge, sugary lies, and other nastiness

[Jason Wynn]

It just reeks of being disingenuous when someone acts like a living version of a Hallmark card constantly. There’s a very clear difference between a person who is just genuinely nice and laid back vs an autistic skinwalker poorly attempting to mirror what they perceive as the “correct” way to be nice. It sets my alarm bells off and just makes me think “what’s your agenda and what are you trying to get out of me?”

 

[Otterly]

It’s fine that stuff for toddlers is all happy. Toddlers should be learning about happy things.
The worst iteration of it for me is at work. You’ll be fa ed with a massive issue or something having gone hideous wrong. The corre t way to deal with it should be
- realise thing has gone wrong
-very quick triage to make sure nothing g is actively exploding into horrors unknown
-identifying and exploring the problem, what’s happening, why and what are the implications. At the same time make higher ups aware and that you’re working in it
-solve the problem
-put stuff in place to make sure problem doesn’t happen again.

Can I do that? No I cannot. Any pointing out of ‘this system doesn’t do what it should, it needs to do x, and it will if you change this bit here…’ is ‘negative.’
Now I’m all for bringing a solution when I bring a problem, and there’s little point moaning about stuff without fixing it, but this weird (and I must say American) idea that everything must constantly be perfect is very damaging to any kind of problem solving.

We are supposed to work with risk assessments. My way of doing that is to ask my people: how is this going to fuck up? Bring me every way you can possibly think this is going to fuck up. All of them. Then We have an amusing doom and gloom meeting where we go through the terrible scenarios and then ask ‘and how can we prevent that?’ Does this expose any procedural weaknesses?
The first time I did this in an American corporate environment I thought management were going to cry, but it WORKS. You can’t solve problems without acknowledging pronlems
The worst place I’ve ever worked as a professional was one that changed their QA system. It went from ‘no blame for finding a problem’ to ‘anyone reporting a problem is blamed for it and can be disciplined.’
And of course, the first quarter NO PROBLEMS at all! Management THRILLED!
Of course the problems happened at the same rate as always, but instead of people flagging them they hid them until little issues became huge awful problems. Company threatening level problems. Management so confused at how this happened.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

I never thought to put a term to it, but toxic positivity is what we have to thank for all sorts of terrible shit, like affirming gender delusions.

 

[Doctor Love]

It's only a First World issue: you Westies are just too rich and comfortable, an incredibly minor problem sends you into a fit of tard rage and suicide baiting, so you flood everything with saccharine and pretend that it will get you through.
Also this and edgy defeatist faggotry are two flavours of the same shit.

Sickly sweet, "toxic positivity" is the "elite way" of trying to relate to the poors.

It also makes it very difficult to speak about subjects, without "spoiling the mood" - for example - "Oh, why can't we all just get along? Why are trans kids suffering?"

- the appropriate response is to wish the same. The real response is "You're hiding behind these children but we've caught ten of you sick fucks trying to molest them. You don't need hormones, you need potassium cyanide."