To be fair to the guy, he did say "i would never actually fuck a dog in real life (or look at bestiality porn involving real things) as that is animal abuse and the very idea of it happening irl makes me feel sick." I mean it's still fucking weird to come out and say this just like that, but it's a key point.
Here's the post he made in the vade thread for those who want the context:
ok im going to open myself up to a lot of shit by saying this but i feel like it needs to be said
im going to preface this by saying i like the idea of fucking dogs. i would also like to say that i would never actually fuck a dog in real life (or look at bestiality porn involving real things) as that is animal abuse and the very idea of it happening irl makes me feel sick. this is a thing that has been there all my life, and i would consider it an intrinsic part of me that cannot be changed. i've tried to hide it, tried to quash the feelings and thoughts down but they dont go away, and if i try too hard to ignore them, it flips he other way and i just cant stop thinking about it, ending up in a vicious cycle of "stop thinking about it" "shit i cant stop i need to try harder" etc etc.
other people with paraphilias (things like necrophilia, paedophilia, zoophilia et al that are more than just a passing curiosity) ive talked to have the same problem of overthinking and self hatred over these feelings, and it frequently causes neuroses and suicidal thoughts. sexologists are actually starting to agree that these things - and general kinkiness - are legitimate sexual orientations, too. that doesnt mean we should be lobbying for [xyz]philia to be totally ok like homo/bisexuality, but it should be seen as something un-fixable, yet able to be handled safely.
the overwhelming majority of people with philias do not like the idea of acting upon these fantasies in real life - for example a lot of paedophiles despise themselves for even thinking of it, and often refuse to be near children for their safety. unfortunately its hard for people to find therapists willing to deal with these things, as they fear being ostracized and cast out with no help at all, so they turn to shota/lolicon. i don't actually see a problem with this, as it is not real, and in the majority of cases, is plenty to help keep the person on the straight and narrow. if a paedophile actively harms children (either through porn or otherwise) they are looked down upon by people who do actually understand that fantasy =/= reality. kind of how jeffrey dahmer isnt representative of all homosexuals.
i am definitely very off topic now (pm me if you for some reason want to discuss more) so ill tldr what i was going to write
tl;dr: its ok to like the fictional side of things (assuming this is real and not a passing "hmm i wonder") as long as you understand completely that fantasy =/= reality, do not consume or partake in the real life acts as that is abuse and makes you a cunt of the highest degree, and also dont turn around and be a hypocritical douchetwat about it like vade is being
here is a dikdik to make up for my 'sperging
He would never actually do it, so that's something. But the thought that whenever a dog is facing away from him and he's eye-balling the poor thing lasciviously... yeah. No need to share that. Just say your peace about paraphilias without alluding to anything about yourself to try and make it seem more justified.
I wake up, decide to see what's going on here on the forums, and see this thread. I read the title, I knew it wasn't gonna be good, but I still clicked it.
ok im going to open myself up to a lot of shit by saying this but i feel like it needs to be said
im going to preface this by saying i like the idea of fucking dogs. i would also like to say that i would never actually fuck a dog in real life (or look at bestiality porn involving real things) as that is animal abuse and the very idea of it happening irl makes me feel sick. this is a thing that has been there all my life, and i would consider it an intrinsic part of me that cannot be changed. i've tried to hide it, tried to quash the feelings and thoughts down but they dont go away, and if i try too hard to ignore them, it flips he other way and i just cant stop thinking about it, ending up in a vicious cycle of "stop thinking about it" "shit i cant stop i need to try harder" etc etc.
other people with paraphilias (things like necrophilia, paedophilia, zoophilia et al that are more than just a passing curiosity) ive talked to have the same problem of overthinking and self hatred over these feelings, and it frequently causes neuroses and suicidal thoughts. sexologists are actually starting to agree that these things - and general kinkiness - are legitimate sexual orientations, too. that doesnt mean we should be lobbying for [xyz]philia to be totally ok like homo/bisexuality, but it should be seen as something un-fixable, yet able to be handled safely.
the overwhelming majority of people with philias do not like the idea of acting upon these fantasies in real life - for example a lot of paedophiles despise themselves for even thinking of it, and often refuse to be near children for their safety. unfortunately its hard for people to find therapists willing to deal with these things, as they fear being ostracized and cast out with no help at all, so they turn to shota/lolicon. i don't actually see a problem with this, as it is not real, and in the majority of cases, is plenty to help keep the person on the straight and narrow. if a paedophile actively harms children (either through porn or otherwise) they are looked down upon by people who do actually understand that fantasy =/= reality. kind of how jeffrey dahmer isnt representative of all homosexuals.
i am definitely very off topic now (pm me if you for some reason want to discuss more) so ill tldr what i was going to write
tl;dr: its ok to like the fictional side of things (assuming this is real and not a passing "hmm i wonder") as long as you understand completely that fantasy =/= reality, do not consume or partake in the real life acts as that is abuse and makes you a cunt of the highest degree, and also dont turn around and be a hypocritical douchetwat about it like vade is being
let's not ignore the fact that pedophiles and animal fuckers are really just the same deep down according to OP and should be lauded when they don't act on those urges
