Off-Topic Trannies and Acid

[Drunk Smurf Lore]

If acid trooned you out there would be an entire generation of troons.

We have that. Not just zoomer freaks but every gen X Nirvana tard coming out and claiming it's "too late" and they wish they were groomed as a kid.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Gonna derail this and ask what we think would happen to a troon on ayahuasca? Are the forest spirits going to say “You’re really a man, stop pretending.”
I’ m p straight edge and never tried any drugs, so it’s something I’ve been wondering. I read it ‘reveals truth’ so logically…

 

[TooManyKittens]

Gonna derail this and ask what we think would happen to a troon on ayahuasca? Are the forest spirits going to say “You’re really a man, stop pretending.”
I’ m p straight edge and never tried any drugs, so it’s something I’ve been wondering. I read it ‘reveals truth’ so logically…

Given all the drugs they're on probably death. Ayahuasca reacts with goddamn everything. Also, no drug can tell you the truth.

At best one may make you realize truth you already know and don't want to admit.

My dollar says troons are too delusional and bat shit for that to happen to them and even if it did they wont do anything but whine cry and demand validation from the hug box.

 

[JUSTCHILLIN]

If acid trooned you out there would be an entire generation of troons. Most of the people who fell into the tune in drop out 70's...

Troons as they are today didn't exist in the public eye back then. Had they been "educated", I'm certain you would have a multitude of them.

 

[JamusActimus]

Trannies love vaping and weed.

Never heard anything about acid.

 

[Stoicism Is For Losers]

A lot of the troons i meet online do a lot of drugs, mostly weed though, but there's some psychadelic use too. Not too surprising because doing illegal drugs is a symptom of a very weak character, psychadelics especially so. While weed most likely wont make you troon out, you'll never know with the kind of delusions psychadelics might induce. If you end up thinking you can fly and jump out the window, why wouldn't it also have the ability to make you think you're actually the other gender?

 

[Joe Lieberman]

The drug that I specifically see a ton of trans people I know using/abusing is ketamine. At this point it's basically legal, and because it's legal people think it's harmless. A variety of startups (i.e. Mindbloom) make it very easy to get it for yourself and use it "therapeutically," which in reality means "as much as possible" because these people have no self control.

It seems like there might be a pushback forming against normalizing drug abuse under the guise of "self-medicating" and "harm reduction". Minor lolcow P.E. Moskowitz wrote this article in "Them" about trans people self-medicating with psychedelics back in 2021. (There might not be enough to dig into for a thread, but this article about Moskowitz being an avid tennis player is kind of funny). About a year and a half later, Rolling Stone published an article raising a ton of red flags about people "self medicating" with ketamine in the queer community.

 

[Luna Lilo]

New poster here. I use to check into r/detrans at times, and every once in a while there's a post by someone detransitioning after tripping on LSD or shrooms.

I think either way it's all just due to psychedelic drugs' ability to fundamentally shake your worldview and open the mind to new perspectives. I myself am a huge fan of that; it's fascinating to see how much nonsense we take for granted just out of habit, and how psychedelics can help us get past ourselves.

Of course, that "mind-bending" can just as easily bend you towards all kinds of dumbfuckery, thus some folks may come to the grand conclusion that trooning out is a great idea. It's essential to sort out your acid-induced brain farts post-trip with a sober and critical attitude, and not take anything as God's revelation. I guess many people lack the ability to do so.

 

[Konig]

Personally, I think shrooms would be a bigger gateway to troonism than LSD. LSD tends to be a more controllable high. Both have good body highs, but in my experience (which is limited, going to try some good LSD tomorrow, hopefully), shrooms is a more sexual drug and causes full-body sensations compared to LSD which is more of a mental experience.. People with more experience can correct me. So I would imagine autists and porn addicts would latch onto that. Alternatively, LSD/shrooms could be a coping mechanism; the high is the closest thing they can get to an orgasm after effectively castrating themselves.

Either way, psychodelics amplify what's already there. Weird fuckers have fun, degenerates cut off their dicks.

 

[Eden Seeker]

Yeah, I've heard pretty much the opposite. The one tranny I know who started growing shrooms, when I asked about her in-trip experiencesre: gendershit, told me "yeah, it's pretty much as everyone says, I got beset by unnecessariness of it all". My personal experience also, I think it was acid when for the first time I felt truly ridiculous making such a big deal out of it all.
The reality is, psychedelics make you more suggestible and open to new ideas. You could deffo use them to self-hypnotize into AGP, but I think for a lot of people it's that they look at the world such as it is (because societal norms and constructions stop making sense), and the cracks in self-affirming trans propaganda begin showing.

Alternatively, LSD/shrooms could be a coping mechanism; the high is the closest thing they can get to an orgasm after effectively castrating themselves.

Lol mate, you what. Psychedelics don't give you orgasms, unless I've missed something.
Most people don't "chase the high" with psychedelics and don't partake in them all too often (there are exceptions, like Aella https://knowingless.com/, who almost numbed herself into starving with LSD).

Now if you don't mind me, I'm going back to my vapes and weed.

 

[Konig]

The reality is, psychedelics make you more suggestible and open to new ideas. You could deffo use them to self-hypnotize into AGP, but I think for a lot of people it's that they look at the world such as it is (because societal norms and constructions stop making sense), and the cracks in self-affirming trans propaganda begin showing.

Lol mate, you what. Psychedelics don't give you orgasms, unless I've missed something.
Most people don't "chase the high" with psychedelics and don't partake in them all too often (there are exceptions, like Aella https://knowingless.com/, who almost numbed herself into starving with LSD).

Now if you don't mind me, I'm going back to my vapes and weed.

I just meant some experience a strong body high with shrooms (vs acid), so that's why they might be into it. Mix delusional behavior plus a full body high and the internet and you'd get a powerful cope/AGP fetish. I'm also sure for some the drugs knock them out of the delusion, but I'd personally place more money on it being a coping mechanism. Remember, we're talking about troons; rational responses are the exception, not the norm.

 

[Otterly]

If acid trooned you out there would be an entire generation of troons. Most of the people who fell into the tune in drop out 70's subculture as young adults grew up and had families and got into real estate or whatever other normal boring job (except for the ones who OD'd on heroin I guess. The scene got pretty nasty by the end).

Psychedelics kind of open you up - they were used in MK ultra etc for good reason. They loosen the feeling you have of being yourself. Ego death or whatever, but also psychedelic related breakdowns were used in torture and MKultra stuff. For some people, that opening up allows some positive ideas in. In the 70s there was a counterculture of tune in drop out and that’s what people opened up to and rebuilt themselves with. Real life eventually got lots of them back as the feedback routines to really cement the new personality weren’t there for the hippy stuff.
Nowadays people are exposed to drugs, AND porn and tranny stuff and degeneracy. Once youve broken yourself down, the new you can be rebuilt and kept in that path in perpetuity becasue the feedback loop of cooming in response to stimulus is so powerful.
It’s like making yourself really susceptible and then getting hooked on digital and sexual crack.

 

[Eden Seeker]

I just meant some experience a strong body high with shrooms (vs acid), so that's why they might be into it. Mix delusional behavior plus a full body high and the internet and you'd get a powerful cope/AGP fetish. I'm also sure for some the drugs knock them out of the delusion, but I'd personally place more money on it being a coping mechanism. Remember, we're talking about troons; rational responses are the exception, not the norm.

oh yeah, now that you say it, I remember some tranny guy telling me that. Don't have a personal experience like that, though. Don't really know w delusional behaviour, like, maybe if you put on porn while on shrooms, lol.
Most ppl who I know who use shrooms regularly definitely do it to alleviate depression, rather than some sort of spiritual/self-improvement tool. Can't really say much for that, I guess it's about the same as SSRIs if you low-dose it. Can't say I'd endorse it, though.

Once youve broken yourself down, the new you can be rebuilt and kept in that path in perpetuity becasue the feedback loop of cooming in response to stimulus is so powerful.

You've reminded me of one tranny I knew who had a long history of drug abuse, got on SSRIs, for some reason started getting MDMA highs from them, and spiralled into a complete porn-fueled psychosis. I think psychedelics were involved later on, but ultimately it resulted in abandoning a cushy IT consultancy job and regressing to making porn.
(Is that powerleveling by these here standards? I'm not sure, seems like relevant stories)

 

[ducktor]

I think you just might be noticing that psychedelics have been very popular recently for all kinds of people, so inevitably trannys will be doing it as well. The thing about acid though is that it doesn't do any one particular thing, it can do anything. It might give you profound insight, or it might give you silly nonsense. It really depends on how you do it and what you expect from it. Acid can make you vulnerable to exploitation, so doing acid while immersing yourself in tranny propaganda on social media very well may drive you to become a tranny even more. On the other hand you may gain insight and reject that propaganda just as easily.

Another thing is that I think that people overemphasize the long term effects of acid, what I've found is that any effect that psychedelics have is quickly lost unless you continue to do them regularly.

 

[doodoocaca]

Back before I was better about keeping shitty people out of my life, and accordingly knew troons, it was remarkable just how many of them abused drugs. Many were high on weed or drunk every fucking day.

 

[Swole McPole]

Troons as they are today didn't exist in the public eye back then. Had they been "educated", I'm certain you would have a multitude of them.

I first took acid in about 1970 or 71 and met my first troon in '72. He was a light skinned nigger who was the image of Diana Ross, and so his street name was Diana Ross.

He'd made his living as a pickpocket since his early teens. He'd work with the whores. The two of them would get into a customers car together, and while the punter was banging the whore, Ross would be going through his wallet. I think he was probably turned out by his older half-brother who liked young boys and was a notorious pimp.

Ross smoked weed but I never knew him to take acid.

I didn't come across anyone else who was 'out' as a troon until about 2010. You'd see the occasional masculine cross dresser on the street, or somebody might tell you that you had a mutual friend who liked to dress up in women's clothes and masturbate in front of the mirror, but nobody was open about it until after 2010 or so.

 

[LonesomeDud]

My own experience with psychedelics has never yielded a desire to troon out, but I think I can understand why it might result in that.

Spoiler: personal discussion of drug use

I have used psychedelics a few times, and the effects of depersonalization are intense and can feel really good to explore parts of yourself beneath the surface, reframing the way you view things, and it opens an interesting window for real change within a person for better or worse. I've seen it the people I've done psychedelics with. I've seen it in myself. I've wondered to myself if psychedelic therapy would have any value for severely autistic children who seen to struggle with some neuromotor element of speech and making those connections between the sound, object/action, and the execution while holding onto what they wanted to communicate, but the idea of giving poor little special needs kids drugs isn't really a sellable idea.

I think ketamine as a depression treatment is great; I think we just need to be as open to pioneering with psychedelics in medicine as we are with medical transition of kids.

Long story short: The paradox of degeneracy and Karen pearl clutching from the same groups that support troons is senseless. I feel like an alien in my own culture.

 

[L'Jarius Sneed]

The Erin Reed backstory is interesting to me because I have a friend whose life trajectory was nearly identical: reddit addiction -> inflated sense of own intelligence -> discovers psychedelics and goes all fucking in with dealing and evangelizing drugs -> gets married young -> has kids -> gets divorced. Difference being that my friend was the first among us to get redpilled on troons and was constantly trying to warn us that they were a bunch of mentally ill porn addicts. He did, however, go down the other reddit rabbithole and lost a shitload of money in crypto. At this point, I'm letting my kid have a sheet of acid before I let them have a reddit account.

 

[Claude Sigma]

I disagree with the take.
LSD and other psychedelic drugs have been popular for more than 50 years and the tranny thing is a lot more recent than that.
As a drug enjoyer myself, including lysergamides, I can't say any of the people I know that took psychs trooned out.

 

[Yeeted Teet]

I don't know anyone who took acid and trooned out, but I know several who took psychedelics and became religious. Mostly in the vague "there's more than what we can see" spiritual kind of way, but one guy who handled it particularly badly decided he was Jewish and went through the whole conversion rigamarole.

I think it's just the result of someone with an already shaky sense of self having trouble processing the things they experienced while on drugs. Rather than take it as a lesson or shrug it off as just some wacky shit, they decide it must be true.