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[AmpleApricots]

As much I too love bitching about how horrible transitioning is, it does help emotional pain. Well kinda, I think it’s mostly placebo effect and sort of accidental byproduct of things around transitioning, but still transitioning can and does help some people dealing with their issues at least momentarily. I say this not because I’m for transitioning (I’m more and more against it in all most all situations) but because it’s hard to stop people from doing something self harming if you don’t really understand what they are getting out of it. Transitioning gives you not only something to blame your unhappiness for but also something to aim for, easy to observe results, reson to get out of your comfort zone, company and community among other things. It’s fairly similar to eating disorders in that sense. Of course if you happen to be a narcissist or otherwise complete drama queen and/or control freak, the current social climate gives you extra attention and allows demanding behavior well beyond normal. Still to a right kind of crazy that can give easily multiple years of happiness or at least lessen the misery before the eventual crash.

It's about as helpful as telling somebody with anorexia nervosa to just throw up if he feels fat, it's the completely wrong approach to the underlying mental illness. These people are not a different gender and just playing along obviously does not turn them into normal people but seems to be more maladaptive. Sadly this topic has been so politicized that it basically has turned into an ideology and before a serious society shift we'll never have proper handling of these cases.

Also this thread really should get an infected tag imho.

 

[Rat Meat Market]

r/traaaaaaannnnnnnnnns - I’m sure the rest of you are adorable though!

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A moment of self-awareness smacks an AGP upside the head.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Putting any kind of device or implant inside someone carries a huge risk of rejection, scarring and prolapse as another kiwi mentioned. There was a big scandal in the UK recently where vaginal meshes implanted after childbirth caused women decades of pain and complications. In general the body wants to reject anything that isn’t genetically matched tissue, and even well established implants such as silicone breast implants require changing several times. It seems strange given what we’ve seen here but using the patients own tissue is a better option.

There are some biocompatible materials. Titanium, for instance; the body grows right into it. The solution is therefore obvious: they should all get titanium fucktubes.

 

[KingQueen]

Right, the issue is time. My understanding of the matter, there is no literature that supports transition is better long-term than any other treatment for the nebulous condition of dysphoria. There are several studies of limited scope, but I take issue with their methodology. One of the studies cited often is some Nordic country self-reported study of ~700 participants. Hardly a notable sample size, self-report bias, limited timeframe.

I think the longest study has been 30 years, including the Sweden study, but this just looked at mortality and criminal convictions, not hormone effects.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0016885
This study reviews previous studies, but notes that a lot of them are "case studies" and not long-term studies.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2214623715000496
It links to two other studies that went on for 30 years and 10 years. But it's worth noting that there might be a follow-up dropout rate, meaning the "failures" wouldn't even show up in the data, which has been one major criticism of trans studies.

It's about as helpful as telling somebody with anorexia nervosa to just throw up if he feels fat, it's the completely wrong approach to the underlying mental illness. These people are not a different gender and just playing along obviously does not turn them into normal people but seems to be more maladaptive. Sadly this topic has been so politicized that it basically has turned into an ideology and before a serious society shift we'll never have proper handling of these cases.

Also this thread really should get an infected tag imho.

Apologies for infecting this thread further, but I'd argue the biggest issue with "treating" trans is that there are clearly several different phenomena being inaccurately lumped under one umbrella. If you study trans literature and history at all, it's abundantly clear there is more than one kind of tranny. I think it's possible that a small percentage of them have some sort of neurological disorder where they'd feel more comfortable as the opposite sex. However, it's pretty fucking obvious that that's not the case with the majority of these troons.

Anne Lawrence, a notorious trans doctor who is hated by the rat king, argues that AGP is not only real, but that transition "cures" it by removing the need for fetishization. But looking at this thread and stuff like /r/itsafetish, it's pretty clear that gender-obsessiveness doesn't go away, and only feeds into it. If transition "worked" for these people, they would become more stable, well-adjusted, and functional human beings automatically. Every troon, transtrender, or case of aspergers I've ever seen just becomes more dysfunctional with medical transition. Some are self-hating homosexuals, some are porn-obsessed fetishists, some are people with a loose grip on self-identity following a crowd, some have sex abuse or body-dysmorphia, some have autism and mistake being socially retarded with transness -- but these are all different and require different treatments.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

Now that I've looked at a few more artificial penis photos and have read more information on various phalloplasty techniques. I have to say that both MtF and FtM SRS results are usually utterly horrifying. The only fair solution is that they should date each other and not get the rest of us involved in their Frankensteinian genital madness.

See, but they don't like fake pussy/dick, they need a real one. Why, you ask, if the srs results are totally like and not at all distinguishable from natural genitalia? Well that's because

If we told all the "transbians" to date other transbians lest they're transphobic, would they hurt themselves in their confusion? If hematoma guy's girlfriend is another tgirl I have a strange respect because he's leaving real lesbians the fuck alone.

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

have you heard the good news of our troon and savior, contrapoints? if thy dick offends you, chop it off, and cast it from thee.

They don't need therapy at this point. They need isolation and deprogramming. Practically every poster on /r/traaaashfire is friends exclusively with other troons and spends most of their day on Discord and Twitter in their troon echo chambers. You are not easily extricating them from that.

This is it exactly. A lot of them don't start out crazy or retarded, but they are just suggestible enough (a personality trait that is pretty much inborn in some folks) to fall for indoctrination easily and they get sucked in. Therapy won't fix them, they just need to be taken out of the situation and doused with a proverbial cold bucket of water. I think that's one reason why you see so many of these dudes suddenly realize oh shit I may have made a huge mistake right AFTER they transition. The excitement is over, the "community" pulls back and they are left alone to contemplate what just happened. Unfortunately at that point the sunken cost fallacy kicks in because what are they going to do, sew their dick back on? These people are the ones who 50 years ago would have joined some idiotic New Age cult, not the ones who would have gotten lobotomies.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

See, but they don't like fake pussy/dick, they need a real one. Why, you ask, if the srs results are totally like and not at all distinguishable from natural genitalia? Well that's because

If we told all the "transbians" to date other transbians lest they're transphobic, would they hurt themselves in their confusion? If hematoma guy's girlfriend is another tgirl I have a strange respect because he's leaving real lesbians the fuck alone.

I mean, if it's just troon on troon dating....

 

[Amber the Hedgehog]

It's about as helpful as telling somebody with anorexia nervosa to just throw up if he feels fat, it's the completely wrong approach to the underlying mental illness. These people are not a different gender and just playing along obviously does not turn them into normal people but seems to be more maladaptive. Sadly this topic has been so politicized that it basically has turned into an ideology and before a serious society shift we'll never have proper handling of these cases.

Also this thread really should get an infected tag imho.

I never said that people transitioning are the gender they are transitioning for, just that they can observe real mood elevation from transitioning and if they have issues (or think they have in case of normal teenage angst) with crippling anxiety or depression that can feel like real help. Anorexia is often trigged by a major life-change or highly stressful event. Anorexia is in it’s core a self medication and control issue, not simply a weight loss thing. This is why anorexia treatments aren’t all about restoring healthy weight (the thing that causes physical symptoms and harm) but very largely about treating the underlying psychological problems, and addressing behaviors that promote the problem. The nervosa part is in the official name for a reason. This is why I recommended understanding why trannies go trough transitioning, what they’re getting from this and why transitioning can feel like a solution. Serious mental illness and issues are complicated and not always easy to cure or even just alleviate, double that if you are dealing with missing data.

 

[AmpleApricots]

Anne Lawrence, a notorious trans doctor who is hated by the rat king, argues that AGP is not only real, but that transition "cures" it by removing the need for fetishization. But looking at this thread and stuff like /r/itsafetish, it's pretty clear that gender-obsessiveness doesn't go away, and only feeds into it. If transition "worked" for these people, they would become more stable, well-adjusted, and functional human beings automatically. Every troon, transtrender, or case of aspergers I've ever seen just becomes more dysfunctional with medical transition. Some are self-hating homosexuals, some are porn-obsessed fetishists, some are people with a loose grip on self-identity following a crowd, some have sex abuse or body-dysmorphia, some have autism and mistake being socially exceptional with transness -- but these are all different and require different treatments.

Exactly, and none of these people are helped or progress further by treating them like the dreamy teenage queen they think they want to be, which was my point. Especially life altering surgery with serious side effects is not going to resolve their problems.

The first and foremost step to getting better regarding mental help is actually accepting proper help and often a hard and sometimes very unpleasant look at oneself, and this whole cult-like phenomenom of "internet-trannism" (for the lack of a better word) and cuddling/avoiding the real issues for the narrative is actually counterproductive if not outright hostile to the idea to get people the actual help they need. Ultimately also, you cannot help somebody who does not want to be helped. The bigger issue I am more concerned with is how these people and their ideology puts vulnerable people at risk. I'm convinced that many of these people are too far gone to seek out any proper help and all society can do is protect vulnerable people from these dangerous thought patterns and toxic communities. I just do not see that happen. There's nothing for it in place. Quite the contrary actually and that is sad. Thankfully it's simply not nearly as widespread as the internet rabbithole wants you to believe.

I never said that people transitioning are the gender they are transitioning for, just that they can observe real mood elevation from transitioning and if they have issues (or think they have in case of normal teenage angst) with crippling anxiety or depression that can feel like real help. Anorexia is often trigged by a major life-change or highly stressful event. Anorexia is in it’s core a self medication and control issue, not simply a weight loss thing. This is why anorexia treatments aren’t all about restoring healthy weight (the thing that causes physical symptoms and harm) but very largely about treating the underlying psychological problems, and addressing behaviors that promote the problem. The nervosa part is in the official name for a reason. This is why I recommended understanding why trannies go trough transitioning, what they’re getting from this and why transitioning can feel like a solution. Serious mental illness and issues are complicated and not always easy to cure or even just alleviate, double that if you are dealing with missing data.

I don't question that they might have temporary positive effects like mood elevation from playing into these delusions, same as somebody with anorexia will feel better right after "purging". It's just neither a healthy way to deal with the underlying problems, nor is it a solution and that's what I was talking about. These are maladaptive coping behaviors. The generally poor track record of people with this really speaks for itself.

EDIT: Somehow half the words got eaten.

 

[KingQueen]

The bigger issue I am more concerned with is how these people and their ideology puts vulnerable people at risk.

I agree with this. The existence of detransitioners proves it. (I mean, if troons own existence isn't proof enough by itself.)

Here's a totally unrelated question: why is it, for the love of god, these people are so blind to fashion failures? Like not combing your hair, or wearing your pants pulled up to your armpits, and so on? What is the psychology of that?

Spoiler: Like this fucking wig

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

I never said that people transitioning are the gender they are transitioning for, just that they can observe real mood elevation from transitioning and if they have issues (or think they have in case of normal teenage angst) with crippling anxiety or depression that can feel like real help. Anorexia is often trigged by a major life-change or highly stressful event. Anorexia is in it’s core a self medication and control issue, not simply a weight loss thing. This is why anorexia treatments aren’t all about restoring healthy weight (the thing that causes physical symptoms and harm) but very largely about treating the underlying psychological problems, and addressing behaviors that promote the problem. The nervosa part is in the official name for a reason. This is why I recommended understanding why trannies go trough transitioning, what they’re getting from this and why transitioning can feel like a solution. Serious mental illness and issues are complicated and not always easy to cure or even just alleviate, double that if you are dealing with missing data.

Have you ever actually been through anorexia treatment? It really is just weight restoration and gtfo.

 

[Cloacan]

If the history of lobotomies are any indication this shit should start to die off in the next decade or two.

Edit for context : the first American lobotomy was performed in 1936 but use of the procedure experienced a dramatic spike in the 1940s to early 1950s but largely fell out of favor by the late 1950s as criticisms/doubts of it's effectiveness grew the final nail in the coffin was 1967 where a botched lobotomy resulted in a woman's death.

If it were possible to tie lobotomy to porn and sexual fetishisation, then lobotomies could easily make a comeback. Transgender isn't going anywhere unless harsh constraints are put on the news, education, entertainment, and porn medias. Under this system children from now on are fundamentally doomed if routinely subjected to those medias. This is a dying society and these are its diseases. (Not so much dying as being murdered, but hopeless nonetheless.)

 

[CheezzyMach]

If it were possible to tie lobotomy to porn and sexual fetishisation, then lobotomies could easily make a comeback. Transgender isn't going anywhere unless harsh constraints are put on the news, education, entertainment, and porn medias. So, yeah, it's not going anywhere, and the slippery slope will continue slide until that pedophiliac necrophile is a respectable sexual orientation.

Lobotomy was most famously used and pushed as a way to "correct" behavior problems and it still fell out of fashion because it largely did not work.

SRS is on the same path, right now everyone's still in denial and acting like everything's fine but there's a steadily growing under-current of people questioning it's effectiveness and realizing that it's at best a band-aid for other issues. *r/Detrans *

And this isn't the first time degeneracy was pushed on an unwilling public the hyper liberal 1960s led to the Silent Majority voting in Nixon in the 70s and the hyper Conservative Moral Majority Reagan led 80s.

There will be a cultural backlash to this shit too.

 

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Now that I've looked at a few more artificial penis photos and have read more information on various phalloplasty techniques. I have to say that both MtF and FtM SRS results are usually utterly horrifying. The only fair solution is that they should date each other and not get the rest of us involved in their Frankensteinian genital madness.

I would say FtM are the....um..."less grotesque" of the two, at least. MtF is almost always a literal wound, and so they carry the same visceral response as seeing a wound. FtM usually just looks silly, like somebody glued a featureless sausage to the bottom of a Ken doll.

But in both situations, I would swear the surgeons had never seen a penis or vagina in their lives. It's like the actual thought process is "well, that's a vertical oval-shaped hole/cylinder-shaped rounded tube. Close enough, time to clock out. When's lunch?"

 

[Rat Meat Market]

See, but they don't like fake pussy/dick, they need a real one. Why, you ask, if the srs results are totally like and not at all distinguishable from natural genitalia? Well that's because

If we told all the "transbians" to date other transbians lest they're transphobic, would they hurt themselves in their confusion? If hematoma guy's girlfriend is another tgirl I have a strange respect because he's leaving real lesbians the fuck alone.

Seems like there's a fair amount of sexing amongst themselves just because any sex is better than none, but yeah, the goal is real men and women. The transbians apparently won't rest until they've infested every single lesbian space in the world, including even get-togethers in private homes.

Funny how it's okay for trans people to have sexual/romantic preferences for people who keep the sex they're born with, but we're not allowed that same preference.

As for hematoma guy, he needs to leave the human race alone if he's going to be exploding blood and pus all over the place and calling it part of a sweet date.

 

[Peaches Demure]

I would say FtM are the....um..."less grotesque" of the two, at least. MtF is almost always a literal wound, and so they carry the same visceral response as seeing a wound. FtM usually just looks silly, like somebody glued a featureless sausage to the bottom of a Ken doll.

But in both situations, I would swear the surgeons had never seen a penis or vagina in their lives. It's like the actual thought process is "well, that's a vertical oval-shaped hole/cylinder-shaped rounded tube. Close enough, time to clock out. When's lunch?"

Both are grotesque, but from what I have been able to gather, phalloplasty, such as it is, carries a much greater risk of serious complications involving basically every function below the waist. Vaginoplasty - the penile inversion technique, anyway - can be completed in just one surgery, while phalloplasty requires anything from two to a dozen, considering they have to perform a hysterectomy, a vaginectomy, as well as skin and subcutaneous fat removal from the donor site (that's the "skin flap phallus" for you). I don't even want to call it that, really, since there is no currently existing surgical technique that can make the sewn-on skin flap look or function anything like a phallus. I looked into the urethral lengthening procedure sometime ago (for those transdude bros whose entire life purpose has been condensed into wanting to pee standing up, geddit?), and I honestly wish I hadn't; it was nothing short of horrific, and I do mean horrific in a way that beats even the inverted penile flesh-tube surgery that makes a vaginoplasty.

At least when a vaginoplasty goes wrong, the MTF can stop dilating and let it close up on its own, and unless the inverted cock-tube has been routed wrong and messes with the urethral or colon tracts, they maintain those functions independently of the neovagina. Phalloplasty doesn't just actively mess with urethral tract; its very purpose is to reshape it into something a urethra was never meant to do.

So I'd say phalloplasty is by far the more gruesome mutilation of the two.

 

[Overcast]

r/MtF - It's so hard to reject men because I feel empathy for them. They are trying, being kind to you and still not good enough. That sucks.

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I'd call him a cunt, but he'd actually have to have one.

 

[Rat Meat Market]

I'd call him a cunt, but he'd actually have to have one.
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"I use people for validation and attention "

Confesses to being that soulless then uses an emoji. What a little treasure.

 

[keyboredsm4shthe2nd]

I would say FtM are the....um..."less grotesque" of the two, at least. MtF is almost always a literal wound, and so they carry the same visceral response as seeing a wound. FtM usually just looks silly, like somebody glued a featureless sausage to the bottom of a Ken doll.

But in both situations, I would swear the surgeons had never seen a penis or vagina in their lives. It's like the actual thought process is "well, that's a vertical oval-shaped hole/cylinder-shaped rounded tube. Close enough, time to clock out. When's lunch?"

In the surgeon's defense it's probably incredibly difficult to create a facsimile of a sex organ out of mishmash parts. Inserting a piece of metal into somebody's heart or fusing titanium to their spine is one thing, one size fits most, and internal. Plastic surgery is completely different. The only reason it looks okay on war vets, acid attack victims, and that one woman who got her face decimated by a chimp is because the other option is looking like a goddamned monster, so any restored humanity is a blessing. And all these srs surgeons are from third world countries. The plain and simple of it is, you can take human skin and reshape it to resemble what used to be there (a face). You can't take it and turn it into something it's not.

r/MtF - It's so hard to reject men because I feel empathy for them. They are trying, being kind to you and still not good enough. That sucks.

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I'd call him a cunt, but he'd actually have to have one.

No self awareness what-so-ever. "you have to make it clear early on that you're not interested"

"UGH WHY DON'T YOU WANT MY ROTTING CROTCH HOLE YOU FUCKING TRANSPHOBE LESBIAN"

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

I agree with this. The existence of detransitioners proves it. (I mean, if troons own existence isn't proof enough by itself.)

Here's a totally unrelated question: why is it, for the love of god, these people are so blind to fashion failures? Like not combing your hair, or wearing your pants pulled up to your armpits, and so on? What is the psychology of that?

Spoiler: Like this fucking wig

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Dad socks and mom keds. I guess that's genderqueer.