Trans fascism

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I tend to think of fascists as being anyone with a "do what we say or else" attitude so that would include Islamacists and yes, a lot of the left today, including trans people.

But authoritarian would probably be the better word.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
I don't understand why they'd be fascists OR communists, given how the respective parties actually treated queer people when they were in power, but whatever.
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1. Mental illness.
2. Their politics + sexual deviancy both started out in the bowels of 4chan, where /pol/ and /dickgirl/ or whatever were just a few clicks away from each other. /pol/ also used to be more ancap (thus accepting of degeneracy) than fascist. Christianity and associated sexual mores were the one of the few parts of reactionary ideology /pol/ never embraced.
 
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Sudden urge to attempt to lazily photoshop a wig and makeup onto a pic of Il Duce
 
Fascism isn't just authoritarianism. Yes all Fascism is authoritarian to varying degrees, but not all Authoritarianism is Fascism. Fascism is a much more complex philosophy than "when the government does stuff."

These trans people are much more in line with your run of the mill evangelical christian authoritarians from decades past.
 
bonny said:
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They exist.
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Obviously. Just go on 4chan and you'll find many. Hell, Kiwi Farms already knows at least one right-wing trap (Autphag). There's also this other trap who frequently posts on /pol/ known as Kayla, who likes to date NatSocs in her area. Just shows you that pretty much everybody is redpilled now, even the degenerates. I even knew this non-binary/intersexual National Socialist on some FB group who I talked with back in 2016 who lives in Cali. It seems even white nationalists aren't excluded from clown world either.
 
Fascism wouldn't be the right term, but I most definitely agree with the point you're trying to make. I was actually thinking about this pretty recently. I feel like the ability to have proper discussion about biological sex and gender identity is getting harder and harder. Even questioning the viability of someone's statement about being transgender is dismissed as transphobic, and it's honestly pretty sad to me. I have no problem respecting someone who truly is transgender, because if they honestly are suffering from such a strange identity crisis I don't believe that is their fault. However, the people who legitimately suffer from gender dysphoria aren't usually the one's whining about how everyone who doesn't coddle and dote over them is a horrible bigot. It's fucking obnoxious, and it's clearly just a ploy insecure people who have shitty personalities and no skills to get attention, because they know they have no other way of getting it. Anyways, the term that's more fitting is probably authoritarian.
 
Foxxo said:
“The word Fascism has now no meaning except in so far as it signifies "something not desirable"...In the case of a word like democracy, not only is there no agreed definition, but the attempt to make one is resisted from all sides. It is almost universally felt that when we call a country democratic we are praising it: consequently the defenders of every kind of regime claim that it is a democracy, and fear that they might have to stop using the word if it were tied down to any one meaning.”
- An excerpt from George Orwell's "Politics and the English Language", the one good thing they had us read in AP Language
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All his good writing aside, it is weird that it was written by someone who was such a tankie that this englishman went to volunteer in a spain to fight in the trenches against fascism.

He's mostly on the money with this. When you look at all the countries with republic or democracy in the name, they're the worst countries in the world.
 
TaimuRadiu said:
A lot of trans people are, bizarrely enough, actual fascists. (Check out the Atomwaffen thread.) I don't understand why they'd be fascists OR communists, given how the respective parties actually treated queer people when they were in power, but whatever. I've asked trans people on message boards and forums about this and they never gave a good answer besides "muh capitalism."
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Alot of the original brownshirt Nazis were gays and crossdressers. I don't think it is odd at all.

Autism leads to deviant behaviors and extremist politics. Autists are not bound to tradition and tend to only believe things they have "learned" themselves. They don't see contradictions and don't respond well to them being pointed out.
 
bonny said:
They exist.
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Good ol' blitz and his "krew"
It's more of a general "being as edgy as possible", ties in with the O9A "nazi" groups. I think we have a thread on that, or theyre included in the atomwaffen group. It's just like leather fetishists who dress like SS officers, israeli concentration camp exploitation porn or Shadman's old nazi themed art. Some form of messed up kink thing they need to get their rocks off. I doubt theyre true nazi's.

Here's another pic of this trans nazi shit in the style of the o9a images
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Everything attracts some measure of weirdos. Its just that in fringe groups their tism and spergery is clearer than in mainstream things.
 
Johan Schmidt said:
No, they're not fascists. They're degenerates that want everyone to be involved in their fucked up fetish that has only emerged because society as a whole is out of control.
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To expand on this somewhat.

They have no actual political ideology or method behind what they do; trannies aren't out there to put the bedazzled jackboot on your balls, they want people to be forced to accept them because it's part of their fetish. They don't actually give a fuck if you genuinely think they are women, because it's not about that. It's getting you and everyone around them to buy into this weird sexual fantasy on the outside and be forced to acknowledge it; like exhibitionism. It's why trannies never look like actual women even when they look like women (which is rare). They dress up like bimbos and hookers because they want to be women in a sexual manner and that surrounds everything that they do. When the mtf tranny walks his daughter to school every day he's not doing it because he wants to do it, he's doing it because it's part of this fucked up expectation of what the porn parody version of a woman would do in his head.

Trannies are unrionically, genuinely disgusting. They are no different to a fag wandering around in arseless chaps and helicoptoring their dick. It's not an 'identity', it's not a 'mindset'. It's a fucking fetish that mentally ill homosexuals have and want to force everyone else to be involved in so they can feel tingly about. It's using society as a dildo to metaphorically ride by trying to make everyone treat them as how they expect the porn parody version of women in their head to be treated.

EDIT: To get on this some more, the archetypical 'right wing tranny' (A fucking laughable idea.) is Blair White, who actively chooses and wants to look like a fucking blowup doll; these aren't women trying to 'get out' of a mans body, or anything like that, they're faggots who got so deep into taking it in the arse that they fetishise the very idea of being a woman, it's vile. They don't need bottom surgery, or hormones; they need to be shamed into being normal or until they log into minecraft and nose dive into lava. They should never be accepted into normal society and should be reviled in all instances like any other sexual deviant.
 
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The primary source of contention between the various forms of "liberals" (libertarians included) comes from the primary doctrine of liberalism as a whole. This is usually summarized as "the role of the state is to protect the freedoms of individuals from other individuals who seek to transgress upon them" or something to that tune. But "freedom" isn't very cut and dry.
Of course, kidnapping someone and forcing them into slave labor is a clear infringement on the freedom of the kidnapped, so the state's role in a liberal system is to prevent such kidnappings from happening. I don't have the freedom to kidnap you because that results in you being kidnapped. My right to swing my fist ends at your nose, as the saying goes. But where is "your nose" in the broader sense of the term?

Where this all becomes relevant is the SJW subsection of liberals: They feel that certain classes of people should be afforded certain protections from the psychological impacts of certain social interactions. In their ideal system, you wouldn't have the right to knowingly misgender someone because that infringes on the tranny's right to go about their day to day routine without being misgendered.
It's dumb, but it's worth knowing what's going on in these people's heads.
 
Your observations aren't all that wrong, though. The communists stole a lot of stuff from the fascists (since they are both authoritarians so there is some sort of overlap there) and the big brains behind those useful idiots from the left knows about it, that is why they cry so much about the fascists. It the good ol' "call them what you do/are to cause confusion" and to make you ask yourself "how come they are the fascists if they hate the fascists so much?".
 
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