Megathread Trans-made Media - Stories about genderspecials, by genderspecials

[Dr. Funk]

he's long time friends with 2 artists who did (who are now both involved with DELTARUNE) and there's plenty more on the DELTARUNE team.

It's for this reason that I hope Toby runs a tight ship with the writing in future chapters of Deltarune, Sure. Kris is nonbinary whatever, that I can deal with. It doesn't effect the story in any way whatsoever and is basically just the trope of leaving the protagonist as blank of a character as possible so you the player can project yourself into it (and given Deltarune's whole shtick where it seems the player and Kris are canonically separate entities in the game world, it's even more reason to invoke that). What I would be pissed about would be blatant intrusion of troon propaganda into the story.

Toby's games style of humor ride a fine line between quirky fun deconstruction of game tropes and trite hipstery nonsense. As you said, he's a strange guy, and his writing reflects that. In my completely subjective opinion, he rides that line well, and his games end up being enjoyable. But it would only take one troon inserting their hamfisted writing to knock that off balance, so if one of his troon friends tries, I hope he has the balls to veto it to save the creative integrity of his own game.

 

[Slideshow Bill]

Wow, then, I wonder: when will Toby Fox transition? Great minds think alike...

The Eurobeat Brony did... so Toby has a 50/50 chance of taking the troon pill.

 

[gata]

Homestuck and it's alien faggot trolls have been a disaster to the western female fandoms.

 

[Deogracias]

I wished we lived in the timeline where Andrew Hussie decided to make The Midnight Crew as a series instead of whatever the hell Homestuck was. The whacky adventures of four mafia wise guys would probably have created a much less cringy fanbase.

...maybe.

 

[Chromeo]

The Eurobeat Brony did... so Toby has a 50/50 chance of taking the troon pill.

Broke my damn heart when Eurobeat trooned out. Same with Nowacking and Immatoonlink. Of course when you have trans propaganda like this going around a fandom it's not surprising:

 

[Spangled Drongo]

My guess is that most true and honest lesbians will politely ignore the game. Not as many furry cis women out there as there are furry men in general. Online TERFs tend to care about things with real world consequences like bathrooms. The realm of video games is already full of speedrunners claiming wahmmenhood, so it's not something that's as big on the plate to tackle as something like sports scholarships or the Wi Spa sex offender parading around.

There's also a good number of lesbians who just don't speak since it's social suicide to say anything against other gays, especially trans women (who have deep internet connections). The twitter shake up helped TERFs come back into more of the fight, but it still is a hated position to be in. There are a lot of LGBT who sadly don't have people outside their LGBT group to fall back on due to any number of reasons, so in addition to women socialization to conform more you got the pressure to not break ties with people who actually accept you (if they did they would still love you even with a TERF view). So we'll see.

Am straight, but do think it's a pity that in general, opposition to the gender ideology in nerd culture seems to be few and far between - it makes sense as a lot of gender critical people are older and/or just not interested, and the young people who spend more time online/playing video games either haven't quite hit peak trans yet or are true believers. On top of that, LGBTQIA+ has become a fandom of its own, in a way - go to any anime or comic convention and you'll find several vendors selling pride themed items alongside all the fanart and merch. Why does everything have to be so politicised? I miss the days when it didn't matter what labels you fell under, people could just meme about their favourite characters together.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Then I shall hold you to that. I'll condense anything into a spoiler and put a TLDR if I think it's too long for a standard post.

Thanks. I created this thread partially as a book club/media club where if we found something as horrendous as Manhunt again, we could share it and longsperg again. It hopefully will let people tackle smaller projects here too they might not have room for elsewhere.

I really didn't have much more to say since the whole "I wanna be accepted into the girls' club!" was what struck me the most, but I did find it amusing that the three other characters look relatively fit but it's the tranny that's plump and overweight. I have no desire to play this game but if it has "body positivity" somewhere in the narrative, I would not be surprised.

I'm sure there is. I'm guessing this game won't have very deep themes or writing, just Sunday morning cartoon level with some themes that cater to the age and demographic group (manchildren) in a cute and somewhat emotional way. I don't think there's much wrong with those games, but it sure is annoying to hear people yell that they're the second coming of Christ to me.

I also think it might have some salt left over in there thanks to Ponett being a salty motherfucker. He might have resisted tempation to put in strawmen but I doubt it.

I feel like the lesson here is that being going trans immediately consumes any creative talent you might have. Like, if you start out a Tolkien level author, then trooned out, you'd maybe end up a suprisingly decent Archive of Our Own writer. Maybe.

This. This is the other reason I made the thread: it seems to be a death sentence for authors, comic writers, & game developers that focus on writing. I've seen a lot of good trans artists, I've heard some good music from trans people, but I hardly ever encounter anything that requires writing get above the Ao3 recommendation.

I think @behindyourightnow recommended one author who transitioned way before the craze who still writes good horror, but I could be wrong. Either way, that's one out of a sea of genderpretenders and it's as sad as it looks.

This is why troon artists never make really great art, even if they are gifted. It's because everything they make is in function of their troonery: me me me memememe. They can't have any serious honesty in their art or they'd easily have to admit their troon persona is fake and thus, hate themselves even more and 41%. They'd rather coddle their false self, but the satisfaction they derive from that is short-lived and requires constant repetition and affirmation (that's Reddit's function for ya, troons asspatting troons). Narcissistic solipsism is just right.

Add in the idea that "being trans suddenly makes everything YOU think and say profound" and it's a nightmare.

Why does everything have to be so politicised? I miss the days when it didn't matter what labels you fell under, people could just meme about their favourite characters together.

Because saying "If you don't like my ship you're a homophobe" became a effective strategy against socially inept nerds and writers. That's a simplified version of it, but being able to force people to go along with you because it's the right thing guilt tripping works great on nerds.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

This. This is the other reason I made the thread: it seems to be a death sentence for authors, comic writers, & game developers that focus on writing. I've seen a lot of good trans artists, I've heard some good music from trans people, but I hardly ever encounter anything that requires writing get above the Ao3 recommendation.

And this is kind of unique to trans authors. Obviously, there are obnoxious creative types from all walks of life who coast entirely on their identity traits for clout, but there are plenty of say, gay or black writers that kick arse, who have a wide range of subject matter and/or can write about their identities in a way compelling to other people. Look at Octavia Butler. Lady wrote a whole bunch of books, many of which were in part about the trevails of being a black chick, and she's a beloved grand dame of science fiction who's mourned to this day. Jewish people basically invented the modern superhero. Meanwhile, the best media about trans characters are pretty much all written by cis writers, or at least low-effort they/thems who're basically normal besides maybe pronouns. For example, Wicked+The Divine. Comic about millenials and gen z types turning into literal rock gods with a two year expiry date. Fucking amazing, up there with Watchmen. Also has a trans woman journalist named Cass who is based as fuck. She's tough, she's smart, she has an arc that doesn't have much to do with trans shit at all, she's in general a well rounded character, basically written and drawn as a normal chick with an Adam’s apple sometimes.

In other words, she’s basically a unicorn in real life, but still better trans “rep” than any trans author has ever written themselves.

 

[ASeabear8952]

Am straight, but do think it's a pity that in general, opposition to the gender ideology in nerd culture seems to be few and far between - it makes sense as a lot of gender critical people are older and/or just not interested, and the young people who spend more time online/playing video games either haven't quite hit peak trans yet or are true believers. On top of that, LGBTQIA+ has become a fandom of its own, in a way - go to any anime or comic convention and you'll find several vendors selling pride themed items alongside all the fanart and merch. Why does everything have to be so politicised? I miss the days when it didn't matter what labels you fell under, people could just meme about their favourite characters together.

I am of the belief that gender critical is the new counter-culture.

 

[Dr. Funk]

Probably against my better judgement, and under the influence of copious holiday spirits I bought the dumb lesbian furry game last night.

So far I've played an hour or two, and if I finish it, I'll probably write a review of sorts. I'll play it so other Kiwis don't have to, why the hell not. First impressions: Yeah it's cute, but in the incredibly twee sort of way. It wears this on it's sleeve, no surpirse there. The sprite-work is decent but not mindblowing. It definitely tracks with the "wish fulfillment fantasy" though transgenderism hasn't really been front and center. If it does I'm sure it will be hamfisted and cringeworthy and we can all have a laugh at the game's expense.

Melody, the fat fox tranny has the very typical insecure attitudes and need for validation one might expect, in this case mostly revolving around her skills as a new paladin in training and learning how to use healing magic. She wasn't even able to use magic until one of her friends who was already a magic user found some old spellbook to use on her that supercharges her and her girlfriend's magical abilities, now she's magical and shit but all "uwu, I don't know if I have what it takes to be a good paladin" about it along with some anxiety that she's "cheated" by having started magic use via the spell instead of learning it from scratch. Maybe there's supposed to be some metaphor about transgenders who have to go through all this shit to try and become the sex they want as opposed to "cis" people who are just naturally that way from the get-go without any intervention? When I put it that way it sounds like incredibly blatant troon propaganda, but while playing it, it doesn't really come across like that, it feels like a bog standard "insecure protagonist that needs to learn how to use their powers and gain confidence at the same time" plot, and not a particularly well written one so far.

As far as Melody's transition goes, despite the world being set on a planet where long ago, a goddess granted mortals the ability to use magic, she apparently still has transitioned via the real-world method of popping hormone pills, which so far only came up because I interacted with the sink at her house and it has pill bottles next to it which she made some comment about it being hormones. If this is a world filled with magic, WHY would anyone settle for this when you could just get a transformation spell or a potion or something? Maybe this will be addressed, but I doubt it. If there was a coherent explanation why that is not a practical option in this world's magic system I'll be surprised. In general the world's setting feels like a mishmash of RPG magic tropes and a modern setting, as explained in the intro (which leans towards telling instead of showing quite heavily) the world this is set in has basically just developed into a world like modern day real life in terms of technology level, just with the addition of magic. The setting feels very generic because of this, and doesn't really have much identity on it's own.

Also, side note about pronoun usage, this character, and art depicting transgenders in general. It feels most natural to refer to Melody as "she" because any sane person assumes gender based on appearance and there is literally nothing about Melody's character design that suggests that she is "trans" aside from a comment on her bio in the party screen, and some lines of dialogue. She just looks like a pudgy fox woman, not a pudgy fox dude in woman's clothing. It amuses me how troon artists depict trans characters as being literally no different because one, it shows their delusional belief that even in real life, there IS no difference, and two, it clearly acts as fantasy escapism for them because they have to know subconsciously that the vast majority of them look nothing like the sex they want to be. Cartoony art styles like the one this game uses only highlight this dissonance because they exaggerate features of a character to make them look more interesting, and that includes sexual dimorphism.

The actual gameplay isn't anything to write home about so far, but I am early game. It's pretty standard RPG maker game fare, images on the battle screen represent enemies, with your party icons at the bottom. You can hit or guard, Melody has a heal, and you can make the girlfriends kiss to boost their stats. There isn't much animation or effects going on in the attacks, so battles aren't exactly spectacular to watch. RPG fanatics might not care, if there is sufficeint strategic interest in battles, and while plenty of the Steam reviews add community posts are praising the game as being a moderate challenge for RPG fans, with good combat, I haven't seen it yet, so I can't rule out those reviews as being from troons who will mindlessly praise anything another troon has made.

That's about as far as I can say, I have better things to do for now than play weird furry games in order to snark about them on the Farms. Don't fear for my sanity, I'm the kind of person who would buy weird shit for a few bucks on Steam back in the day when low quality absurd looking asset flips flooded the place, just to see if any would be bad enough to be funny. This is almost a treat compared to some of the garbage on my account. Almost. If I never get around to "reviewing" it here, I've trooned out and become a valid uwu twansgorl probably just gotten bored and lost interest.

 

[Deogracias]

Between High Guardian Spice, several characters from DC/Marvel, that DnD stuff from the former author of Venus Envy, and now this furry trans game, it says a lot about the mentality of trannies that so many of them can't (or won't) come up with a fantastical way to become a real biological woman. I mean, isn't that the whole point? To "transition" into the opposite sex? Yes, we know it's not possible, and deep down I'm sure many of them know it's not possible, but fiction is fiction and nearly anything can be believable if given the right justification. As long as there is some level of consistency, most people will accept magic as an explanation, especially if magic does exist in said fictional universe.

I just find it amusing since magical sex changes through magic (or even Super ScienceTM) have been around for several decades and yet so many of them, even when they have the perfect excuse through fiction, still rely on pills, hormones, and surgery for their characters, many who are blatant self-inserts.

 

[AMHOLIO]

@Dr. Funk Thank you for these holiday tidings.

while playing it, it doesn't really come across like that, it feels like a bog standard "insecure protagonist that needs to learn how to use their powers and gain confidence at the same time" plot, and not a particularly well written one so far.

Fascinating. What kind of bad is it? Or is it general "meh" bad? I'd check myself but there's only 1 let's play on youtube so far.

The setting feels very generic because of this, and doesn't really have much identity on it's own.

Earthbound influence of wanting modern fun, jokes, fashion, & tech while also wanting fantasy outfits and props really does a number on some settings. I mainly remember it from it being nauseatingly pink, and that's about it.

It amuses me how troon artists depict trans characters as being literally no different because one, it shows their delusional belief that even in real life, there IS no difference, and two, it clearly acts as fantasy escapism for them because they have to know subconsciously that the vast majority of them look nothing like the sex they want to be. Cartoony art styles like the one this game uses only highlight this dissonance because they exaggerate features of a character to make them look more interesting, and that includes sexual dimorphism.

This is a good time to bring up the old trope of "many trans people are autistic" again. What do autistic people like in art? Many things, but they tend to gravitate towards cartoons for consistent emotion overexaggerated to be clear and visible, with bright colors. And what other symptom do some autistic people have? Face blindness. Those usually rely on other cues to tell man or women, usually with things like long and short hair, clothes, and styling.

Lastly, I want to say that furries also sometimes get extra wistful since they're already portraying anthropomorphic animals, they just disregard things in the name of pure fantasy anyway.

Between High Guardian Spice, several characters from DC/Marvel, that DnD stuff from the former author of Venus Envy, and now this furry trans game, it says a lot about the mentality of trannies that so many of them can't (or won't) come up with a fantastical way to become a real biological woman. I mean, isn't that the whole point? To "transition" into the opposite sex?

I get a little curious at how many trans people rather read a book about a cis gender rather than a trans gender person: trans people want to be the gender, why not read and relate to a cis man/woman? Obligatory:

Yes, we know it's not possible, and deep down I'm sure many of them know it's not possible, but fiction is fiction and nearly anything can be believable if given the right justification. As long as there is some level of consistency, most people will accept magic as an explanation, especially if magic does exist in said fictional universe.

I just find it amusing since magical sex changes through magic (or even Super ScienceTM) have been around for several decades and yet so many of them, even when they have the perfect excuse through fiction, still rely on pills, hormones, and surgery for their characters, many who are blatant self-inserts.

Think about it this way: pill taking and shots are literally their culture. There's a lot of worship of the hormone, to the point where they sell etsy merchandise of T & E pill & injection themed items. This way it is more relatable to the target audience. Being trans doesn't just mean being wahmen overnight in spite of what they say, it means a whole culture of medical routines and therapy to go through.

Without shots and pills, you also can't have threats like the taking away of medication or detransitioning. This is the worst horror for many a trans person, whether justified or not, so having the same conflict they feel they have in real life in the game (someone threatens to take pills away) but with the option to punch their lights out and win is attractive to them.

Trans people hate being othered, but they do it to themselves whether they realize it or not.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

Also, a lot of these people are of that SJW persuasion where they’ll bitch if say, a sci fi setting mentions they figured out how to regrow spinal nerves, so paraplegia no longer exists. Because that’s “erasure.”

 

[Dr. Funk]

Fascinating. What kind of bad is it? Or is it general "meh" bad?

Honestly, more "meh" bad than atrocious so far. Part of me hopes that it improves as I play more of it because I find bad games far more entertaining when there's a kernel of good in with all the rest of the shit. I guess it'd also depend on your tastes in games, how bad you think it is. However, high class art in video-game form this aint. It's target demographic will absolutely enjoy it though, it hits all the right notes for them and going by the reception so far, indeed they are.

Earthbound influence of wanting modern fun, jokes, fashion, & tech while also wanting fantasy outfits and props really does a number on some settings.

Earthbound wannabes trying too hard to be quirky, funny, relatable, and jamming RPG tropes into a modern setting are a dime a dozen. I'll be honest there are games that fit the "Earthbound clone" bill that I do like. And then there is a pile of trash where the wannabes that failed end up. And lemme tell ya, that particular subgenre of indie game has some real stinkers. No matter how bad the rest of SLARPG ends up, I don't see it topping the likes of YIIK for example, in terms of sheer awfulness.

Think about it this way: pill taking and shots are literally their culture. There's a lot of worship of the hormone

I think this is a big part of it. They feel like it wouldn't be true "trans reperesentation" if they didn't copy-pase every aspect of the modern Western transgender experience and ideology directly into their fantasy setting. A plot that deeply explored the implications of what it would be like if people had access to magic/technology that let people flawlessly change sex is outside the scope of what they want to create, and probably just goes above their heads and writing skill. The only representation they want is one the contains the same hormones and surgeries they have put on a pedestal. For the record, the game has not mentioned surgery once as far as I've gotten, I have no idea if the fox still has a dick or got a fauxgina installed, and quite frankly, I hope I never learn the answer to this question. As far as that logic for representation goes, it funnily enough doesn't seem to apply when appropriating characters in other non trans-made or trans-specific media that contains any sort of sex/gender swap tropes or even a hint of genderbending. In these cases, they will immediately latch onto the character and declare them a trans icon, despite the fact that their fantastical fictional experience of becoming the opposite sex is nothing like an accurate portrayal of real-world transition.

 

[PoisonedBun]

It's for this reason that I hope Toby runs a tight ship with the writing in future chapters of Deltarune, Sure. Kris is nonbinary whatever, that I can deal with. It doesn't effect the story in any way whatsoever and is basically just the trope of leaving the protagonist as blank of a character as possible so you the player can project yourself into it (and given Deltarune's whole shtick where it seems the player and Kris are canonically separate entities in the game world, it's even more reason to invoke that). What I would be pissed about would be blatant intrusion of troon propaganda into the story.

Toby's games style of humor ride a fine line between quirky fun deconstruction of game tropes and trite hipstery nonsense. As you said, he's a strange guy, and his writing reflects that. In my completely subjective opinion, he rides that line well, and his games end up being enjoyable. But it would only take one troon inserting their hamfisted writing to knock that off balance, so if one of his troon friends tries, I hope he has the balls to veto it to save the creative integrity of his own game.

See, I don't get that. If you were trying to make a character their own entity separate from the player, wouldn't you give them clearly defined traits instead of being easily able to be projected on? I didn't understand this about Frisk either. Using they/them just sounds like you were too lazy to program in a gender option so you'll let the player fill in the blanks. Especially with Undertale, I think he should have picked something and stuck with it.

Frisk always seemed like they could be either and Toby finally said nonbinary for brownie points, but I could be wrong.

Anyways -



I don't think I've seen anyone mention Bugsnax on this thread. There were a couple of nonbinary people on the team, including the director Kevin Zuhn. Snorpington's sister is also nonbinary with a nonbinary voice actress.



It's probably the most competent and well made game I've seen out of enbies who generally can't work together to save their lives. It's about catching little food themed creatures and exploring an island setting with a colorful cast of Muppet like characters. I didn't even suspect anything until I got near the end of the game and realized Snorpington kept saying 'sibling' over and over instead of sister and didnt mean it coldly. I still kind of recommend it if you're into monster catching and/or puzzle solving games.

 

[AMHOLIO]

I'll be honest there are games that fit the "Earthbound clone" bill that I do like. And then there is a pile of trash where the wannabes that failed end up. And lemme tell ya, that particular subgenre of indie game has some real stinkers. No matter how bad the rest of SLARPG ends up, I don't see it topping the likes of YIIK for example, in terms of sheer awfulness

Me too. They're just hard to get that nice balance while maintaining their own personality - even one that strikes it halfway and has some other good things I can forgive and admire they tried. And lol, at least trans people can always take comfort in knowing that cis people can also screw writing and gameplay up badly. We are truly more alike than different (it's ok to be cis).

They feel like it wouldn't be true "trans reperesentation" if they didn't copy-pase every aspect of the modern Western transgender experience and ideology directly into their fantasy setting.

Exactly! It's fascinating. I've seen a few stories where trans is incidental and doesn't mention hormones or anything, it just is, and they weren't too bad because the writing could be amature but the focus was on the story and could be enjoyable. I think cramming race relations of the real world or gay oppression in a fantasy setting without taking the time to really think beyond "oppressor bad me good" can be just as bad, but trans feels so cookie cutter and cultlike that it's hard to ignore.

magic/technology that let people flawlessly change sex is outside the scope of what they want to create, and probably just goes above their heads and writing skill.

It's also something they jerk off to in passing and don't think about, they get hard instead of think hard.

The only representation they want is one the contains the same hormones and surgeries they have put on a pedestal. For the record, the game has not mentioned surgery once as far as I've gotten, I have no idea if the fox still has a dick or got a fauxgina installed, and quite frankly, I hope I never learn the answer to this question

Great way to put it. And lord willingly none of us will ever know.

In these cases, they will immediately latch onto the character and declare them a trans icon, despite the fact that their fantastical fictional experience of becoming the opposite sex is nothing like an accurate portrayal of real-world transition.

When you have nothing but straws to grasp at, you make due I guess.

Frisk always seemed like they could be either and Toby finally said nonbinary for brownie points, but I could be wrong.

Same. It hard stops gender wars on the fandom but gives a fraction of them something to be super obnoxious about.

Snorpington's sister is also nonbinary with a nonbinary voice actress.

She looks so... not good in that portrait. Like she seems functioning, she just has crazy eyes.

I still kind of recommend it if you're into monster catching and/or puzzle solving games.

I watched my friend play and it seems pretty fun gameplay wise. Challenging in some areas, but never too frustrating. The environments and art direction are good too, and some of the characters are genuinely fun. And if you don't like one, you can always stop their sidequest and hope they get taken out at the end instead, but the best ending keeps everyone ok if you couldn't have guessed.

 

[White-Kettle Shufflepunk]

I want to clarify something about my Wick Div sperg. I don’t think Cass is a realistic depiction of a trans woman, she’s far too sane. I’m saying that TRAs have to rely on sympathetic normals to write their propaganda. That’s just lame.

 

[Monolith]

It's for this reason that I hope Toby runs a tight ship with the writing in future chapters of Deltarune, Sure. Kris is nonbinary whatever, that I can deal with. It doesn't effect the story in any way whatsoever and is basically just the trope of leaving the protagonist as blank of a character as possible so you the player can project yourself into it (and given Deltarune's whole shtick where it seems the player and Kris are canonically separate entities in the game world, it's even more reason to invoke that). What I would be pissed about would be blatant intrusion of troon propaganda into the story.

Toby's games style of humor ride a fine line between quirky fun deconstruction of game tropes and trite hipstery nonsense. As you said, he's a strange guy, and his writing reflects that. In my completely subjective opinion, he rides that line well, and his games end up being enjoyable. But it would only take one troon inserting their hamfisted writing to knock that off balance, so if one of his troon friends tries, I hope he has the balls to veto it to save the creative integrity of his own game.

See, I don't get that. If you were trying to make a character their own entity separate from the player, wouldn't you give them clearly defined traits instead of being easily able to be projected on? I didn't understand this about Frisk either. Using they/them just sounds like you were too lazy to program in a gender option so you'll let the player fill in the blanks. Especially with Undertale, I think he should have picked something and stuck with it.

Frisk always seemed like they could be either and Toby finally said nonbinary for brownie points, but I could be wrong.

I fully expect that one of the twists at the end of Deltarune just has Asriel casually call Kris 'he,' and when everyone looks shocked he acts confused at how they couldn't tell.

 

[PoisonedBun]

Between High Guardian Spice, several characters from DC/Marvel, that DnD stuff from the former author of Venus Envy, and now this furry trans game, it says a lot about the mentality of trannies that so many of them can't (or won't) come up with a fantastical way to become a real biological woman. I mean, isn't that the whole point? To "transition" into the opposite sex? Yes, we know it's not possible, and deep down I'm sure many of them know it's not possible, but fiction is fiction and nearly anything can be believable if given the right justification. As long as there is some level of consistency, most people will accept magic as an explanation, especially if magic does exist in said fictional universe.

I just find it amusing since magical sex changes through magic (or even Super ScienceTM) have been around for several decades and yet so many of them, even when they have the perfect excuse through fiction, still rely on pills, hormones, and surgery for their characters, many who are blatant self-inserts.

Hey, you reminded me of a character who fits the bill on what you're talking about, with a canonically stated reason explaining their decision not to magically change.

This isn't trans made as far as I'm aware, but I think it's relevant and kind of goes to show you can at least find a way to address this discrepancy.

Sperging about a game called Granblue Fantasy:

Spoiler

Granblue Fantasy is one of those massive cast Japanese gatcha games. I've never played it personally, but I've caught wind over quite a bit of it and there are two characters that catch the eyes of troons specifically.



The first is Cagliostro, who, from what I understand, discovered a way to transform their male body into this much stronger form. I've been told it wasn't actually intentional by friends, while wikis state it's more born out of narcissism to be cute. Either way, desire to be a girl appears to have been secondary to the characters desires, but she's fine with staying this way.

The real meat of what I'm talking about comes with this character, Ladiva who is actually a trans woman:



No western translation bullshit, actually identifies as a woman. An okama stereotype? Perhaps, but either way, a character a lot of people like. Anyways, obviously this one girl sorcerer found a way to easily transform into a girl. The two have an interesting exchange:










Ladiva offers an actual reason as to why she doesn't want to do it.



This is a massive sperg about shit I only kind of know about, but I did think it was interesting. It honestly makes sense that even in a world where you can instantly change certain things about yourself, some people would choose not to do it for their own personal reasons. The problem is the majority of writers don't take a moment to explore that, or even think about the ramifications of powerful science/magic would have on transitioning in the first place.

 

[Deogracias]

I fully expect that one of the twists at the end of Deltarune just has Asriel casually call Kris 'he,' and when everyone looks shocked he acts confused at how they couldn't tell.

Despite everything, I really can't see Kris as anything other than a male and everyone just calls him "they/them" because they're just that clueless about humans. It can be tricky with kids, but by the time puberty kicks in, most people can tell. You can't fool the average human eye without Hollywood levels of makeup.

I've also seen some fanart depicting Kris as unambiguously female too. I think despite TobyFox's wishes, a large (but subtly quiet) part would rather the playable characters have a defined gender and this shows up in some fan projects, including ones with fan characters.

Hey, you reminded me of a character who fits the bill on what you're talking about, with a canonically stated reason explaining their decision not to magically change.

This isn't trans made as far as I'm aware, but I think it's relevant and kind of goes to show you can at least find a way to address this discrepancy.

Sperging about a game called Granblue Fantasy:

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Granblue Fantasy is one of those massive cast Japanese gatcha games. I've never played it personally, but I've caught wind over quite a bit of it and there are two characters that catch the eyes of troons specifically.

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The first is Cagliostro, who, from what I understand, discovered a way to transform their male body into this much stronger form. I've been told it wasn't actually intentional by friends, while wikis state it's more born out of narcissism to be cute. Either way, desire to be a girl appears to have been secondary to the characters desires, but she's fine with staying this way.

The real meat of what I'm talking about comes with this character, Ladiva who is actually a trans woman:

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No western translation bullshit, actually identifies as a woman. An okama stereotype? Perhaps, but either way, a character a lot of people like. Anyways, obviously this one girl sorcerer found a way to easily transform into a girl. The two have an interesting exchange:
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Ladiva offers an actual reason as to why she doesn't want to do it.

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This is a massive sperg about shit I only kind of know about, but I did think it was interesting. It honestly makes sense that even in a world where you can instantly change certain things about yourself, some people would choose not to do it for their own personal reasons. The problem is the majority of writers don't take a moment to explore that, or even think about the ramifications of powerful science/magic would have on transitioning in the first place.

See, I can tell this (probably) wasn't written by a transexual because it has a lot more honesty written into it and less wish fulfillment. I think it was more cross-dressing than transexual but Tokyo Godfathers also had a sympathetic okama in it and you can clearly tell it's a man in a dress.