Transhumanism

[AnOminous]

No I'm saying that even if it existed, it wouldn't lead to a magical utopia, the poor would die out. People in the thread earlier, speculated that everyone would get this technology, and I'm saying that's bullshit. We are talking about immortality, not a Playstation 5.

The immortal billionaires would still need slaves. The slaves would get to live as long as they were useful and productive and didn't complain too much about their organs being harvested and so on.

Let alone the kind of backlash there would be from the poor to the rich never dying and continuing to rule.

The poor could be pretty easily controlled by limiting their access to these new technologies.

The spice must flow.

 

[Picklepower]

An immortal population, that keeps breeding, yeah I'm sure our Earth could support that.

 

[Derbydollar]

An immortal population, that keeps breeding, yeah I'm sure our Earth could support that.

Our earth most likely won't have too.
Earth isn't the only planet in the universe, afterall.

In case of immortality being achieved before other habitable planets, people who are immortal would either be sterilized or have their legal rights to reproduction taken away.

 

[autisticdragonkin]

An immortal population, that keeps breeding, yeah I'm sure our Earth could support that.

Who says that the population would be immortal. Just living 150 years would probably satisfy most people and they would just commit suicide then. Also it is more likely that we will just extend lives to very long lengths as opposed to actually being able to achieve immortality

 

[exball]

An immortal population, that keeps breeding, yeah I'm sure our Earth could support that.

I think if people can discover immortality it doesn't matter much about how long it takes to reach other galaxies.

 

[AnOminous]

Who says that the population would be immortal. Just living 150 years would probably satisfy most people and they would just commit suicide then. Also it is more likely that we will just extend lives to very long lengths as opposed to actually being able to achieve immortality

Sounds like bullshit to me.

How many superannuated people commit suicide for no reason just because they're bored? Doesn't happen.

 

[Johnny Bravo]

Sounds like bullshit to me.

How many superannuated people commit suicide for no reason just because they're bored? Doesn't happen.

It's true. There's always more to learn.

Old people are sad because they can't do as much as they could when they were young and all their friends are dead. Immortality solves both these problems. What's there to be sad about?

 

[Picklepower]

What are some good papers on this subject? As a layperson, it sounds really farfetched to me, but I know I could be wrong about things, and I don't wanna dismiss something because I don't understand it.

 

[Holdek]

No I'm saying that even if it existed, it wouldn't lead to a magical utopia, the poor would die out. People in the thread earlier, speculated that everyone would get this technology, and I'm saying that's bullshit. We are talking about immortality, not a Playstation 5.

A major aspect of transhumanism (of the Ray Kurzweil variety, anyway) is how much technology is declining in price as it advances in capability.

 

[Picklepower]

I might sound paranoid, but the thought of society being over dependent on technology scares me. What would we do if it all disappeared? And wouldn't all this make our privacy disappear? I listened to a Ted talk about this shit and it sounds scary, we will have less and less privacy as time goes on.

 

[autisticdragonkin]

I might sound paranoid, but the thought of society being over dependent on technology scares me.

We have been over dependent on technology for hundreds of thousands of years so far and it has worked out

 

[Picklepower]

What about the risk of EMP's? if having worries about these things is "Autistic" then haha I'm autistic, ok man.

 

[autisticdragonkin]

What about the risk of EMP's?

What about the risk of smallpox?

 

[Hat]

if having worries about these things is "Autistic" then haha I'm autistic, ok man.

I think trying to have a serious conversation about a topic that uploading your mind to computers, becoming immortal, and living on other planets to accommodate for the population growth is your problem, not the part about having worries.

What about the risk of EMP's?

I'd laugh.

 

[exball]

And wouldn't all this make our privacy disappear?

If you think anything you do online is private, you're pretty naive.

 

[Holdek]

Our earth most likely won't have too.
Earth isn't the only planet in the universe, afterall.

England became overpopulated before the discovery of the New World too.

The advancement of technology and society are intertwined, and the next destination is the stars.

 

[Bungleboy]

I'd respect transhumanism a lot more if they focused on how to use technology to end poverty before having wankfests over immortal robot bodies. Talking about the end of death coming when huge swaths of people in Africa and the Middle East consider themselves lucky if they have clean drinking water is delusional.

That and how much of it has little to no actual scientific evidence for it, like cryonics.

There's respectable transhumanists but the majority I've seen are just nerds scared of dying.

 

[Whatisgoingon]

It would be cool to live forever, but I highly doubt that the tech will be made in any of our lifetimes, if ever.

 

[autisticdragonkin]

It would be cool to live forever, but I highly doubt that the tech will be made in any of our lifetimes, if ever.

I would just be happy being able to live to 100 healthily and I think that is more reasonable

 

[Holdek]

What are some good papers on this subject? As a layperson, it sounds really farfetched to me, but I know I could be wrong about things, and I don't wanna dismiss something because I don't understand it.

Read The Singularity is Near by Ray Kurzweil. It's a bit pedantic and repetitive, but it's a good primer on the background for a lot of this stuff.