Tucker Carlson - Killstream second mic, controlled by (((them)))

0:26:57: Tucker is talking about UFOs, spirituality, technology, etc.

Joe: Did you ever watch, uh, "Chimp Nation," on, uh, Netflix?

LMFAO. The memes are real.
 
Alaric the Visigoth said:
I think he's wrong about atomic bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the Japs had a warrior code of never surrender and they unequivocally proven during the pacific front that they would be willing to die to the last man if they still had a chance of winning.
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Except that's false since there were two well-respected imperial princes (Hirohito's uncles) among other politicians who led a peace faction as early as 1944 and encouraged Hirohito to abdicate and the Japanese to surrender. The only reason they didn't succeed was because the US demanded unconditional surrender and many viewed that as giving the Americans permission to execute the Emperor. The idea of the Japanese as insane never surrender warrior people is a myth created by American propaganda and the actions of one faction of Japanese.

To this day, there is no proof the Japanese surrendered as a result of the atomic bombings and not something more obvious like "our army is getting routed in Manchuria and we're about to get invaded in the north by the godless Soviet commies and in the south by the Americans."
VeteranOfTheRetardWars said:
That was an interesting episode.
I’m starting to wonder if Tucker, likely over COVID, really evaluated what he does and who he works for and if it’s all real or not. Then I think he learned a few conspiracies he never knew before and just went hog wild.
I used to think he was a maybe glowie asset, I assume that of everyone, but given how much he directly shit on and accused intel agencies I doubt that now.
Now I’m genuinely curious as to where he goes from here, he seems to want to do something big.
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He helped redpill so many boomers it's unreal. If he's an asset, then he really fucked up with the stuff he was putting out there. Even if you assume him adding UFOs and shit to his message is proof he's trying to poison the well by associating facts about the Chinese virus, BLM, and Russia with sillyness, it's too late to stop the fact he's spread truth to Americans more than any government agency has in many decades.
 
RedDelicious said:
Tucker wishes he was a glowie. He applied for the CIA out of college, but was rejected.
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Likely cover story, you maroon.
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Save the Loli said:
The idea of the Japanese as insane never surrender warrior people is a myth created by American propaganda and the actions of one faction of Japanese.
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They were throwing themselves off cliffs to avoid surrendering to US troops also who's to say if we didn't demand a full surrender that the japs wouldn't turn around and do this shit again but what do I do I know, surely you Save the Loli have the moral high ground here.
 
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Markass the Worst said:
Some people don't like this interview. Tim Urban of Wait But Why:
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It is really, really dumb. I don't think that disqualifies everything he says, but it is shockingly dumb. I also did did not expect Tucker Carlson to completely deny evolution, it was pretty surprising. I think he is genuinely quite smart, and this is moreso evidence that we all can have massive, massive blindspots in our knowledge that may radically change our perspective on the world if we understood them. I'm not particularly conservative, but I think regardless of politics Tucker Carlson is quite intelligent. And also, this is a pretty hilarious oversight in his model of the world.
 
Alaric the Visigoth said:
I think he's wrong about atomic bombing of Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the Japs had a warrior code of never surrender and they unequivocally proven during the pacific front that they would be willing to die to the last man if they still had a chance of winning.
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In a sane world; they would be teaching the other side of the story regarding what was the alternative to dropping the bombs, primarily the planned land invasion Operation Downfall which all of the military and government outside a very select few of the highest of echelons (who gambled on the Atomic Bomb) were expecting to occur. In hindsight the average person doesn't really get just how secretive the Manhattan Project was. So much so that Harry Truman was unaware of it until he became President just 4 months before we dropped the bomb. Keep in mind we still hand out Purple Hearts that were originally produced for the aftermath of what was going to be the most bloody and vicious battle of WW2 for the Pacific theater and we were expecting anywhere between 2-10 million Jap deaths due to the zeolot resistance of not just the soldiers but the common civilians not to mention a potential Soviet invasion from the north that would've effectively split up Japan.
And I don't give a fuck about this "w-well the Japanese were planning to surrender!" from illiterate weebs either when that evidence has always been vague and incredibly questionable. People wanted this war to end quickly, The Japs kept up extraordinarily stiff resistance during the Battle of Okinawa just two months later in June and the West couldn't keep it going otherwise it was just benefitting the Soviets even more with a prolonged war in the Pacific. The Japanese knew their time was up the moment Germany surrendered and if they truly thought the Soviets weren't going to reallocate their forces to Manchuria despite all of the evidence saying otherwise, then that's on them for being so utterly oblivious despite the historical rivalry both Russia and Japan shared on top of the empathetic interests that Stalin shared with communist forces in China and Korea.
And I'm glad the bombs were dropped; My grandfathers would've probably died in that invasion.
Civilian casualties were also expected to be high, both as a direct result of military action and indirectly from other causes. Between 10 and 25% of the civilian population of Okinawa died as a result of the battle there. A worst-case scenario, published on 21 July 1945 by the physicist William B. Shockley, predicted that "at least" 5 to 10 million Japanese - military and civilians - could die, with a corresponding American casualty total of up to 4 million. The war ended before this document, "Proposal for Increasing the Scope of Casualties Studies," could be considered in detail. Army Service Forces planners assessed that approximately one third of Japanese civilians within the invasion areas on Kyushu and Honshu would flee as refugees or die, leaving the remainder (including wounded and sick) to be cared for by the occupation authorities
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Good summary of just how resilient and stubborn the average Japanese soldier was. The ones who didn't hear that the war ended just kept it up for decades in hiding because the brainwashing was so heavy that it wasn't impossible for them to believe Japan would've surrendered.
RedDelicious said:
Tucker wishes he was a glowie. He applied for the CIA out of college, but was rejected. Being a journo was his fallback.
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It's not necessarily difficult to get into the CIA, it all comes down to what you're specifically applying for in the CIA. Remember, you're talking about an organization of 25,500+ employees with multitudes of security clearance tiers varying from the extreme mundanity to the extraordinary the higher you go and what specific sub-department you belong to.
 
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SlipNHonkMach2 said:
In a sane world; they would be teaching the other side of the story regarding what was the alternative to dropping the bombs, primarily the planned land invasion Operation Downfall which all of the military and government outside a very select few of the highest of echelons (who gambled on the Atomic Bomb) were expecting to occur. In hindsight the average person doesn't really get just how secretive the Manhattan Project was. So much so that Harry Truman was unaware of it until he became President just 4 months before we dropped the bomb. Keep in mind we still hand out Purple Hearts that were originally produced for the aftermath of what was going to be the most bloody and vicious battle of WW2 for the Pacific theater and we were expecting anywhere between 2-10 million Jap deaths due to the zeolot resistance of not just the soldiers but the common civilians not to mention a potential Soviet invasion from the north that would've effectively split up Japan.
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The operation existed solely because the United States insisted on unconditional surrender, while Japan gladly would have returned to prewar borders, disarmed, and done what the US asked IF they had several guarantees about not executing the Emperor or genociding their people like many in the US demanded. Insistence on Japan's unconditional surrender indeed did almost kill hundreds of thousands of Americans, British, and others.
SlipNHonkMach2 said:
And I don't give a fuck about this "w-well the Japanese were planning to surrender!" from illiterate weebs either when that evidence has always been vague and incredibly questionable. People wanted this war to end quickly, The Japs kept up extraordinarily stiff resistance during the Battle of Okinawa just two months later in June and the West couldn't keep it going otherwise it was just benefitting the Soviets even more with a prolonged war in the Pacific.
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The evidence isn't "vague and incredibly questionable." It's documented history. "Stiff resistance" is not evidence, since that's exactly what the Germans did at Breslau, Seelow Heights, and in Czechoslovakia during spring 1945. In the case of the Germans, it was to help their generals and soldiers surrender to the Allies where they were less likely to be gulag'ed and for the aforementioned peace faction of Japanese it was to convince the United States to accept their demands to surrender.
 
Did the prewar borders include being pushed out of the Korean peninsula and Manchuria? Because the prelude to the Pacific Theater began with the Japs going into French Indochina after its failed offensive to cut off supply routes into China thus causing an embargo from the US, all of which was initially springboarded from their occupation within Manchuria.
Who in the US government openly demanded genociding their people. Start with actual names and quotes from people in the FDR or Truman administration that specifically outlined ethnic eradication of the Japanese homeland that you claim exist. And no, firebombing Tokyo doesn't count, the capital and its cities being attacked showed that the Japanese homeland was not invulnerable to retaliation nor that the US military was ineffective after their attempt to cripple its fleet at Pearl Harbor without a declaration of war.
And yes, the evidence is vague of any hinting at surrender. They should've immediately surrendered moment Germany capitulated. Instead they dragged it out an additional 4 months and gave all the opposite impressions of wanting to come close to surrender by their extreme resistance at Okinawa. You probably aren't aware of who was controlling Japan's government at the time, which was the Supreme War Council consisting of six men. 3 of which pressed for the war to continue, and it was only after the soviets invaded Manchuria and after the bombs fell that Emperor Hirohito finally announced a surrender, a total of 6 days later. Even the Japanese never played themselves of hinting this notion of surrendering at an earlier day. Korechika Anamii whom was one of the pro-war counselors only switched his opinion right after the Emperor made his declaration, but he was also dismissive of the idea of the US having an additional bomb of that measure after Little Boy was dropped on Hiroshima.
Insistence on Japan's unconditional surrender indeed did almost kill hundreds of thousands of Americans, British
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It's funny how you're excusing Jap atrocities as reactions to unconditional surrender considering how FDR didn't publicly call for it against the Axis Powers until the start of 1943. Meanwhile the Bataan Deathmarch and Burma Railway occurred a year earlier in 1942.
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Ah yes, including the Nanjing Massacre a total of 7 years prior. They must've gone back in time and told themselves of future events of how FDR was going punish them for "dinara duruo nuffans" hence why they viciously committed actual genocide against the Chinese. It's almost like the Japanese had very little inclination to follow for what they saw as Western doctrine in the form of the Geneva Convention enforced on a warriors code from feudal society where burtal onslaught was how you treated a defeated opponent and its denizens.
https://www.tohokingdom.com/books/japans_longest_day_kodansha.html
This is a book that is a vital read on the subject matter if you truly are questioning the perspective of the Japanese government high command and their accounts of the last 24 hours before surrender.
In researching for this book, the Pacific War Research Society, a panel of distinguished Japanese scholars and journalists, interviewed many of the participants of the event.
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SlipNHonkMach2 said:
And yes, the evidence is vague of any hinting at surrender. They should've immediately surrendered moment Germany capitulated. Instead they dragged it out an additional 4 months and gave all the opposite impressions of wanting to come close to surrender by their extreme resistance at Okinawa. You probably aren't aware of who was controlling Japan's government at the time, which was the Supreme War Council consisting of six men. 3 of which pressed for the war to continue, and it was only after the soviets invaded Manchuria and after the bombs fell that Emperor Hirohito finally announced a surrender, a total of 6 days later. Even the Japanese never played themselves of hinting this notion of surrendering at an earlier day. Korechika Anamii whom was one of the pro-war counselors only switched his opinion right after the Emperor made his declaration, but he was also dismissive of the idea of the US having an additional bomb of that measure after Little Boy was dropped on Hiroshima.
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The evidence isn't vague. Tojo was forced out as PM because he was too pro-war and thought Japan could get a lot better terms from the Allies than many people in the government knew he could. You fight to get good terms to surrender. Just like every German did in Breslau, Seelow Heights, and Prague in April 1945.
SlipNHonkMach2 said:
It's funny how you're excusing Jap atrocities as reactions to unconditional surrender considering how FDR didn't publicly call for it against the Axis Powers until the start of 1943. Meanwhile the Bataan Deathmarch and Burma Railway occurred a year earlier in 1942.
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Except that's not part of my argument at all. My argument is that hundreds of thousands of Allied soldiers were going to be sent to their deaths all because the US wanted carte blanche to do with Japan as they pleased instead of accepting a more reasonable demand to retreat to pre-war borders and not being allowed to hang who they please. Had it happened, we could point at a Pacific War cemetary and correctly label everyone who died in the invasion of Japan as a bunch of dupes (just like Trump actually didn't say).

I don't believe you can even read that book since you can't read my post.
 
hundreds of thousands of Allied soldiers were going to be sent to their deaths all because the US wanted carte blanche to do with Japan
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Yes and we would've done so with pride because men were men back then tied to god, family and country. Ultimately the deaths did justify the means. We put the nips in their place and they were allowed to flourish post-war due to American investment and visa versa. American occupation of Japan was the best thing to ever happen to them.
instead of accepting a more reasonable demand to retreat to pre-war border
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You mean give into Japanese demands, because they would've never accepted a retreat that went against their system of beliefs without being forced to. And I'll ask again; define pre-war borders. Does that include relinquishing Manchuria which they occupied in 1931 and used as a springboard to invade the rest of China in 1937? Or Korea for that matter?
 
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