EU Turks Enraged as Ancestry.com Reveals the Truth: Most of Them Are Greeks - Istanbul BTFO'd

The Turkish DNA Project, an online endeavor to track Turkish genetics, is enraged at the popular genealogy site Ancestry.com and has called for it to be boycotted for stating an inconvenient truth: many, and possibly most, modern Turks are the descendants of the Greeks who once formed the overwhelming majority of the population of the land that is now Turkey. In this as in so many other instances, the truth hurts, but that doesn’t make it any less the truth.


Greek City Times reported that the Turkish DNA Project tweeted: “AncestryDNA prioritizes to demonize the Turkish people and delegitimaze [sic] their presence in Turkey rather than giving information about the genetic structure of the relevant population.” The Turkish DNA Project called upon “all Turks to boycott this company: Ancestry.”

After Greek City Times called attention to the tweet, the Turkish DNA Project took it down, but it still has up a retweet calling for a boycott of Ancestry.com, as well as a tweet fulminating with incandescent rage against Greek City Times’ Athens Bureau chief Paul Antopoulos, whom it calls a “white supremacist.” Very original line of attack you got there, guys.

Greek City Times explained that the Turkish group was enraged “because Ancestry.com correctly highlighted that many Turkish citizens are indeed mostly unrelated to Turkic peoples from Central Asia and are rather native Anatolian people that have been Turkified….Ancestry.com highlighted that after the Ottoman conquest of Pontos in today’s Turkey’s southeastern Black Sea coast, the “Pontian Greeks adopted Turkish language and culture, and many converted to Islam in order to have greater opportunities in Turkish society. Ancestry.com also highlighted that another round of Turkification of Pontian Greeks occurred after the second Russo-Turkish War (1828-29).”

This is not at all surprising, and nowhere even close to a false claim. Throughout history, when Muslims have conquered an area, they relegate the non-Muslims to second-class status, denying them numerous rights and mandating that they pay a tax, the jizya, for the privilege of practicing their religions without being killed. There is one easy way for the subjugated dhimmis to escape this state of humiliation and degradation: they can convert to Islam.

This led to mass conversions, and to the fact that in numerous lands that were once conquered by Muslim armies, most of the Muslim population has non-Muslim ancestors. Egypt was 99% Christian when it was conquered, and is only around 10% Christian now. Where did all the Christians go? They’re still there. They’re the nation’s Muslims. It’s the same in Iran: the Zoroastrians of Persia are still mostly in the country. They’re the Muslims. And likewise in Turkey, most of the Turks are ethnic Greeks who were forcibly converted to Islam, or who willingly converted in order to escape the institutionalized harassment and persecution of dhimmitude.

Turkish journalist Uzay Bulut informed me that Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan himself is from the town of Rize, the Greek name of which is Rizounta. Bulut told me: “His family is from the Potamia town of the city. Their village is Pulihoz. They’re original Greek names of these locations but they were later Turkified by The Turkish Republic. Erdogan himself, too, refers to the village as Potamia. This is such a controversial, taboo topic in Turkey.”

It shouldn’t be, if Erdogan were consistent. He recently declared: “We maintained these lands and made them our homeland with our blood, our flag, and the sound of prayer from the mosques. This is why the re-opening of the Hagia Sophia as a mosque is important, as it is a legacy of conquest.” If he can celebrate that “legacy of conquest,” why can’t he and Turks of like mind celebrate the fact that they are the children and heirs of the Greeks who were conquered by the Turkish invaders? That’s part of the “legacy of conquest,” too.

Bulut observed: “Why are Turkish nationalists so terrified of the truth? Because if they face it, the lies they’ve come up with will be shattered to the ground. Through these lies, hatred has grown which made them commit so many crimes against Greeks, Armenians, Assyrians, Jews and others. Then they will realize that by destroying those peoples, they’ve actually destroyed their own ancestors and cultural heritage. The truth will set us all free and bring much needed peace to the region.”

We can only hope.

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kind of like how Y Chromosomes don't recombine (because you don't generally get YY in a single fertile body
Unless you're a man's man, like me.

This wasn't a black woman getting raped by a plantation owner, this wasn't a black man getting lynched for raping a plantation owner's daughter.
And it wasn't a buck getting broken.

But noooo, it's about me me me, gotta have a tribe to point at. Great great great grandma should have been a raped slave so she'd have an African certificate to show off.
It doesn't even matter, either. What's the point of knowing what sub-ethnic group you're "from" when you know nothing about that sub-ethnic group or its culture?
 
This isn't actually a surprise to anyone who knows the history of the region. Like most nomadic Steppe tribes, the Turks didn't have a huge population when they rolled into Anatolia. Add to that the Ottoman Turks considering anyone who was Islamic and not Arabic "Turkish" on their census and you're going to blur a lot of ethnic lines. Just a reminder that Mustafa Kemal was, if I recall correctly, from Bulgaria and had blonde hair and blue eyes.

The Turks are incredibly autistic on this issue so anything that makes them seethe is welcome in my books. The amount of pseudo-science and pseudo-history that the ultranationalists contort into some Turanist/Pan-Islamic BS is both breathtaking and ridiculous- and Turkey is still a country where ultranationalism is still relatively mainstream.

TBH, the modern 'Turk' identity didn't really get solidified until the 1930s-1950s, as the modern concept of the 'Turk' was drilled into the youth via propaganda like the Student Oath.

Like literally:
I am a Turkish (Turk), I am truthful (honest) and I am a hardworker.
My Law: is to protect younger ones, to respect my elder, to love my country (homeland) and my nation more than myself.
My ideal (mission, purpose); is to rise, to progress.My existence shall be a gift (dedication) to the Turkish existence.

Prior to that, and going even into the 1920s, the subjects of the Ottomans were generally divided up by religion (Christians, Jews, Muslims)- though this was in itself in decline by the 19th century with the rise of nationalism and the eventual wars of independence.

Not surprising at all. Living near a Greek neighborhood I'd seen some things attributed to Greek culture that it turns out originated in Turkey. The two had been swapping cultural aspects and people for some time.
I'd say that a lot of it is from the general Anatolian substrate. Things seen as 'Islamic' were in fact far more ambigous and in flux- and in many ways, the Ottomans were the latest continuation of the civilizations there. For instance, the turban first emerged in Christian Assyria, before being carried into Armenia, and finally into the Byzantine Empire.

And of course, one musn't forget about the star and crescent:
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Just imagine, to add more insult to injury, if some of them have even Armenian or Kurdish ancestry in their DNA.
Wasn't Mr. Salt Guy Chef actually a turkified Kurd?
 
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She knew, she explicitly chose that test over two alternatives because while the alternatives would tell her the percentage black she is, that one would tell her what tribe she's from and she was super excited about that.

Of course now that her great great * grandmother is a filthy white whore, she's strongly considering taking a regular old percentage test afterall to prove that she's got some black in her, even if she can't say which type of black.
1 drop rule. she's 100% black
 
The myth that not being lily white means you're not European is hilarious. That myth has been embraced by genuine racists of both white and non-white persuasion for similar ends. It's like these people have never seen Spain or Italy. The only reason many of their northern populations look more stereotypically Northwestern European is because of Germanic invasions and settlers after the fall of Rome.
 
I don't get genetards who need to prove some bloodline. It's cool to see what families and people you are connected to but beyond that it becomes some gay pure Bavarian phenotype LARP.
What are you talking about, I am descended from English aristocracy. You are descended from slaves. I deserve it more.

I wonder how a person who found out he's a product of massive inbreeding would react to such news, since we're talking about royalty here...
 
What are you talking about, I am descended from English aristocracy. You are descended from slaves. I deserve it more.

I wonder how a person who found out he's a product of massive inbreeding would react to such news, since we're talking about royalty here...
I'm not black or I*ish, thank God.
 
Was making an Elliot Rodger reference. He was a huge ancestry sperg, but considering he was half Malaysian Chinese and half white, he's probably struggled with it for a while.
Oh didn't catch the reference to Supreme Gentleman Vanblogger.
 
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