Twitter blocks post from White House science adviser Scott Atlas

Twitter blocks post from White House science adviser Scott Atlas

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2020/OCT/19 - Mark Moore (NY Post)

Twitter blocked a post from top White House coronavirus adviser Scott Atlas on Sunday that questioned the use of masks as a means of curbing the spread of the illness. Atlas, who joined the White House in August, wrote, “Masks work? NO,” while adding that the widespread use of face coverings is not supported by evidence.


“Masks work? NO: LA, Miami, Hawaii, Alabama, France, Phlippines, UK, Spain, Israel. WHO: widesprd use not supported’ + many harms; Heneghan/Oxf CEBM: ‘despite decades, considerble uncertainty re value’; CDC rvw May:’no sig red’n in inflnz transm’n’; learn why,” the top doctor wrote. A spokesperson for the social media company told the Associated Press that the tweet violated its policy of sharing false or misleading information about the coronavirus that could lead to harm. Atlas, the former chief of neuroradiology at Stanford University Medical Center, said Twitter’s action amounted to censorship.

“I don’t understand why the tweets were deleted,” Atlas said in an email to the wire service. He said his post meant to show that “general population masks and mask mandates do not work” and pointed out that they should be used when people cannot socially distance. Despite mask mandates, coronavirus cases exploded in Los Angeles County, Miami-Dade County, Hawaii, Alabama, the Philippines and Japan. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention recommend people wear masks in public settings like grocery stores, pharmacies, where social distancing is difficult because infected people who do not show symptoms of the disease can still be contagious.

 

[Ruin]

"Despite mask mandates cases have exploded in many major cities."

So he's right then? They don't work.

 

[REGENDarySumanai]

Twitter is just asking to get slapped.

 

[Creepuscular]

“no sig red’n in inflnz transm’n’“

Fucker’s having a stroke.

 

[mr.moon1488]

"Despite mask mandates cases have exploded in many major cities."

So he's right then? They don't work.

I'd suspect that's much more heavily related to the Planet of The Apes larping than the masks though.

 

[SuperDeeDuper]

"Despite mask mandates cases have exploded in many major cities."

So he's right then? They don't work.

the debate surrounding this is getting really annoying, but i have noticed a couple of things covid-mongers always seem to want to avoid talking about: deaths per capita and population density.
the places with the highest population density, unsurprisingly, seem to have the highest death rates and vice versa. there are parts of the US where basically nobody wears a mask, but they still have extremely low death rates along with their low population density.
the media does not seem to bring up deaths in general very much anymore, unless it's to say "oVeR tWo-HuNdReD tHoUsAnD dEaD" as if that is a meaningful number on its own. they never bring up daily deaths anymore because they fell off to practically nil months ago, and have mostly stayed that way since then. not a good vector for fear-mongering anymore

 

[muh_moobs]

“no sig red’n in inflnz transm’n’“

Fucker’s having a stroke.

No. Medical people are almost as bad as military/LEO for acronyms and abbreviations.

No significant reduction in influenza transmission.

I'd suspect that's much more heavily related to the Planet of The Apes larping than the masks though.

Even in Japan and the Philippines?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

He said his post meant to show that “general population masks and mask mandates do not work” and pointed out that they should be used when people cannot socially distance.

So which is it, do they work or don't they work? Sounds like he's trying to appease Dear Leader by saying masks don't work, but trying to cover his ass by saying they do work.

 

[muh_moobs]

So which is it, do they work or don't they work? Sounds like he's trying to appease Dear Leader by saying masks don't work, but trying to cover his ass by saying they do work.

They don't work.

The advice is clear: If you're displaying symptoms, wear a mask if you're going to be near people who would be at risk. Otherwise, masks don't do anything.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

They don't work.

The advice is clear: If you're displaying symptoms, wear a mask if you're going to be near people who would be at risk. Otherwise, masks don't do anything.

So you are saying they do work then. You can be contagious and still not show symptoms.

 

[muh_moobs]

So you are saying they do work then. You can be contagious and still not show symptoms.

They don't stop you from getting sick.

There efficacy is dubious in regards to preventing you from transmission if you're displaying symptoms.

Masks don't do anything if you're not displaying symptoms.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

They don't stop you from getting sick.

There efficacy is dubious in regards to preventing you from transmission if you're displaying symptoms.

Masks don't do anything if you're not displaying symptoms.

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Are you still using the played out "MASKS DON'T STOP YOU FROM BEING SICK?!". No one is claiming they do that. They're to help prevent you from spreading it to others. So the whole idea is that if people wear masks, far fewer people will spread the virus to others. You can be contagious and still not show symptoms. Stop being disingenuous, I know that you know this. It's not a difficult concept.

You literally just said you should wear a mask if you're showing symptoms, thus debunking your own point in the post I just quoted. So which is it, do masks work or don't they? If you are saying they don't, you're arguing with established science, including from Dear Leader's own CDC.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

So you are saying they do work then. You can be contagious and still not show symptoms.

Even the WHO has slipped up and admitted that there's little evidence that asymptomatic COVID casis are much of a risk for spreading it. Of course, they crouch that in statements of "we don't know for sure, we need to study it more", and so on, but from a common sense standpoint, the primary vectors for COVID transmission rely on things like coughing to expel droplets, suggesting that at the very least, asymptomatic carriers are a much lower risk.

 

[Buster O'Keefe]

There efficacy is dubious in regards to preventing you from transmission if you're displaying symptoms.

So you're saying they might work?

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Even the WHO has slipped up and admitted that there's little evidence that asymptomatic COVID casis are much of a risk for spreading it. Of course, they crouch that in statements of "we don't know for sure, we need to study it more", and so on, but from a common sense standpoint, the primary vectors for COVID transmission rely on things like coughing to expel droplets, suggesting that at the very least, asymptomatic carriers are a much lower risk.

Are you referring to the time the WHO said that it was difficult to trace asymptomatic spread and then all the covidiots latched onto that as proof there is no asymptomatic spread? Besides, I thought you guys thought the WHO was a corrupt China puppet, so why would you even trust what they say about anything?

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

Are you referring to the time the WHO said that it was difficult to trace asymptomatic spread and then all the covidiots latched onto that as proof there is no asymptomatic spread? Besides, I thought you guys thought the WHO was a corrupt China puppet, so why would you even trust what they say about anything?

It's slipped out two or three times in various discussions. The one I was thinking of specifically was when they more or less admitted that they used hypothetical models to account for asymptomatic transmission because they had no real data to go on.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

It's slipped out two or three times in various discussions. The one I was thinking of specifically was when they more or less admitted that they used hypothetical models to account for asymptomatic transmission because they had no real data to go on.

Gonna need a citation on that one. The only time I saw was when they said it was hard to trace, and then a bunch of covidiots were like "SEE? THERE IS NO ASYMPTOMATIC SPREAD!". Similar to the "6% had no underlying conditions" things that retards (including one in this very thread) still keep misinterpreting and quoting as proof covid isn't dangerous

 

[Crazedking]

Are you referring to the time the WHO said that it was difficult to trace asymptomatic spread and then all the covidiots latched onto that as proof there is no asymptomatic spread? Besides, I thought you guys thought the WHO was a corrupt China puppet, so why would you even trust what they say about anything?

So is there definitive proof that asymptomatic people are carrier or is it just, they "maybes"? Because im not big on following policies on maybes. Especially from an organization whose flip flopped with mask are good or dont do anything several times.

Also its hard to take medical instution serious when protest were fine because racism is an even worse problem than covid apparently. This made it clear to me that all this is political and covid is greatly exagerated.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

Gonna need a citation on that one. The only time I saw was when they said it was hard to trace, and then a bunch of covidiots were like "SEE? THERE IS NO ASYMPTOMATIC SPREAD!". Similar to the "6% had no underlying conditions" things that retards (including one in this very thread) still keep misinterpreting and quoting as proof covid isn't dangerous

The specific speech I was referring to was by Van Kerkhove, but now I'm only finding bits and pieces of it on various news sites rather than the whole thing, sorry.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

So is there definitive proof that asymptomatic people are carrier or is it just, they "maybes"? Because im not big on following policies on maybes. Especially from an organization whose flip flopped with mask are good or dont do anything several times.

Also its hard to take medical instution serious when protest were fine because racism is an even worse problem than covid apparently. This made it clear to me that all this is political and covid is greatly exagerated.

From what I understand, the reason asymptomatic spread happens is that people are still contagious before they show symptoms. So if you have it and are on, for example, day 3, you'd still be contagious even though you won't show symptoms for another few days.

Studies explore asymptomatic COVID-19 cases, racial inequities

Blacks and Hispanics were 1.9 and 1.8 times, respectively, more likely than whites to test positive.

www.cidrap.umn.edu

The finding that about 80% of COVID-19 patients eventually have symptoms suggests that presymptomatic transmission likely contributes substantially to outbreaks of the disease, the researchers said.