Two popular creepypasta Youtubers accused of child grooming. - CreepsMcPasta, CreepyPastaJr alleged to e-diddle kids

God, I come back after like a month and coincidentally the two sperg-meisters I was observing on Reddit ended up joining in on this thread. Of course, they don't waste any time and bring that fight here. Jesus just take me now.

Man the creepypasta community has gotten weird.
Honestly, that's why I don't really care much for anything without actual legal repercussions behind it. I just listen to narrations. The community has become a mix of...

- ...actual predators who were exposed for going after minors and/or soliciting/sharing heinous shit with them
- people who did stupid crap up to a certain age and tried to move on from that
- toxic, sanctimonious blowhards who think they're the GoodGuys™ (despite their publicly available history of assholery)
- drama hounds
- clout chasers
- decent enough blokes here and there

Some people live on the internet and it shows. In fact, some people are so obsessed with becoming a hero on the internet that it's almost plausible they'd try to generate more drama just to retain some form of relevance online.

Makes ya ponder.
 
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Would you happen to have screenshots of the convo by any chance?
You can check out the "recent" posts by a deleted account here and check out the comment threads: https://www.reddit.com/r/creepsmcpasta

Jesus just take me now.
I mean, I wouldn't complain. Dunno about anyone else.

The community has become a mix of...

- ...actual predators who were exposed for going after minors and/or soliciting/sharing heinous shit with them
- people who did stupid crap up to a certain age and tried to move on from that
I hope you're not splitting pedophiles in their 20s who prey on pre-teens from "actual predators", here. You aren't, right? I must be misinterpreting your stance on pedophilia.

- toxic, sanctimonious blowhards who think they're the GoodGuys™ (despite their publicly available history of assholery)
- drama hounds
- clout chasers
Mention some examples to back up your claim? I'm admittedly not as tuned into the "community" as you apparently are. I only surface when some real nutty shit happens.

Some people live on the internet and it shows. In fact, some people are so obsessed with becoming a hero on the internet that it's almost plausible they'd try to generate more drama just to retain some form of relevance online.
Mention some examples to back up your claim? Again, I'm just not as invested in the internet horror community as you seem to be.
 
I mean, I wouldn't complain. Dunno about anyone else.
Dunno about anyone else either. People don't actually hate me online despite my meager presence. Can't really say the same about you.
I hope you're not splitting pedophiles in their 20s who prey on pre-teens from "actual predators", here. You aren't, right? I must be misinterpreting your stance on pedophilia.
I'm splitting convicted criminals from those who only have allegations to their name. What, does the concept of innocent until PROVEN guilty not exist in that thick skull of yours? My stance on pedophilia has been pretty much the same for all the years since I learned of the term. It's a crime that can be convicted through actual law with the provision of sufficient evidence.

Shared explicit imagery with a minor? Pedophilia.
Attempted to meet up with a minor for sexual contact? Pedophilia.
Made sexual contact with a minor? Pedophilia.
Sexualizing a minor who actually exists/existed irl? Pedophilia.

Far as I'm aware, that carries both a possible jail sentence and addition into a specific registry. That shit clings to a criminal forever.

Oh but wait...you're one of those..."court of public opinion and social media" types. So sorry.

Mention some examples to back up your claim?
Mention some examples to back up your claim?
The fact that you're even asking for examples of the sort of people I mentioned, in this day and age, after the drama bullshit and false accusations that have plagued YouTube and the internet in general since well before the pandemic hit, is mind-boggling.

The kind of people I've described aren't exclusive to the horror community. People like you and Pastel Brainlet exist all over the internet and you being facetious isn't going to change that. You act as if we didn't just have a slew of false accusations that were overhyped or disproportionally magnified over the last year or so. I know for a fact that you're not that ignorant. All of that is why I chose to wait for more concrete evidence that would actually be enough to put a potential criminal away.

Oh but what was your response to that? What did critically-acclaimed, world-famous creepypasta author Slimebeast have to say that would show such a godless, dimwitted heathen the folly of his ways?

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Oh boy! You sure changed my mind! 🙄

I'm admittedly not as tuned into the "community" as you apparently are. I only surface when some real nutty shit happens.
Again, I'm just not as invested in the internet horror community as you seem to be.
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...Suuuure.
 
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Dunno about anyone else either. People don't actually hate me online despite my meager presence. Can't really say the same about you.
Okay. That doesn't make me care more.

What, does the concept of innocent until PROVEN guilty not exist in that thick skull of yours?
You said "actual predators" and then followed with "people who did stupid crap". You did not say people with proven vs. unproven allegations.

Both of your examples were people who did the action. In this case, child grooming.

You're attempting to change it, now. Own up to the fact you just attempted to give pedophiles a pass if they "moved on" and separated them from "real predators".

Oh but wait...you're one of those..."court of public opinion and social media" types. So sorry.
I'm actually one of those "Hey, this guy lied a lot and flirted with kids on audio recordings" types. Not exactly the boogeyman that fits your narrative mold, here. I know it's far easier for you to coast on a complete lack of a point if you start out with that cookie-cutter argument, but no.

The fact that you're even asking for examples of the sort of people I mentioned, in this day and age, after the drama bullshit and false accusations that have plagued YouTube and the internet in general since well before the pandemic hit, is mind-boggling.
You won't list people you know in the "narration" community because you can't think of more than a handful of bad actors, and you can't think of anyone you'd call a Good Guy™, drama hound, or clout chaser, other than me. (Keeping in mind, you'd only call me that because you have no idea what you're talking about.)

What's mind-boggling is that you said that all willy-nilly with nothing to back it up.

You said the narration community is made up of groomers, good guys, clout chasers, drama hounds, etc. Feel free to put an iota of elbow grease behind that claim at any point. I can start you off by naming all the known or suspected groomers if you want - but that will only get you to like five out of the hundreds of narration channels.

The kind of people I've described aren't exclusive to the horror community.
Ah, widening the scope.

People like you and Pastel Brainlet exist all over the internet and you being facetious isn't going to change that.
Holy shit, people you disagree with... exist?!

Aaaaand we're right back to the fact you hate Pastel Belle, despite the fact she was only involved by interviewing the alleged victim. Gotta make it about this one random person, right?

You act as if we didn't just have a slew of false accusations that were overhyped or disproportionally magnified over the last year or so.
Again, you're moving away from your original claim - about the narration community. I'd ask you to mention the false accusations there, but -- I guess you're backing away from that claim?

Oh but what was your response to that? What did critically-acclaimed, world-famous creepypasta author Slimebeast have to say that would show such a godless, dimwitted heathen the folly of his ways?
It's always weird when someone says this and shows it's what they resent as opposed to what I seriously say or think. I'd say "rent free" but the cost is listening to you.

Oh boy! You sure changed my mind! 🙄
Why do you presume people care what you think? It's fine to just ridicule you, you know.

...Suuuure.
You screen capped three years of videos, involving only three events, and that's all you came up with?

Maybe this is my fault for not being clear enough - Posting videos about fan grooming doesn't equal being huge into the "drama scene". It equals signal boosting grooming accusations - whether you agree with the accusations or not. I don't give a shit about how someone speaks, what words they use, if they are rude to people, etc. However, you have shown that you're invested to that level, to the point you have screen caps of me insulting people in YouTube comments.

Alleged groomer > People talking about alleged groomer > People talking about people talking

You're the ass-end of the centipede, there. So, again, you're far more invested in "community drama" than I am.

Further, in those caps, you included non-drama videos, such as the Corpse Husband one - which is a recommendation list of content creators I like. I mean, I don't expect you to look into what you're saying at this point, but I guess I should at least notify you that you fucked up.

I don't know if I'm pushing the limits by posting all this here, fuck I may be crossing over into cowdom without realizing it, but holy shit are you functionally brain dead.
 
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@Slimebeast @German_DYNAMO Neither of you have anything to add and and your slapfight is beyond autistic. Take it to Reddit.

@German_DYNAMO a twenty year old who's dating twelve year olds isn't 'doing stupid shit because they're young', they're grooming children because they're a paedophile. Get that through your thick head. This particular bit isn't up for debate.
 
@Slimebeast @German_DYNAMO Neither of you have anything to add and and your slapfight is beyond autistic. Take it to Reddit.

@German_DYNAMO a twenty year old who's dating twelve year olds isn't 'doing stupid shit because they're young', they're grooming children because they're a paedophile. Get that through your thick head. This particular bit isn't up for debate.
There's nothing to add since Slimebeast is having a blast trying to gotcha a supposed CPM sockpuppet in Reddit and nothing new nor concrete is actually going to come of it. Bet if CPM was sharing explicit shit with his alleged victim, we'd have something. I'm entirely willing to condemn his actions then, but only then.

Nobody is debating the concept of pedophilia either. I outlined exactly what someone would get in trouble for and my stance on it since someone couldn't read.

You don't get to tell me what to do when the whole thread is made of speculation, confirmation bias and opinions that don't add anything either.

If any of you actually had anything to add that'd lead to something more, you wouldn't be here. So I'm staying.
 
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Hey dudes, I wanted to let things happen naturally here but there’s a lot of information about this situation that you need to know. I made the 2 hour video that was linked here earlier and while going through CreepsMcPasta’s, MCP’s, and other’s social media accounts, I found a lot of weird behavior from these guys towards young girls. A lot of what I am posting here occurred in 2012 (around the timeframe when Kumori was allegedly groomed) but there’s also stuff from 2013 and onwards. Apologies for how lengthy this post is but there's a lot of ground to cover.

Ties to Other Narrators in "The Street"
If you recall, "The Street" was Creeps' multi part Halloween collab from 2012 that featured dedications to Kumori in two of it's parts. In his response, Creeps claimed to not have memory of some of the narrators that appeared in "The Street", claiming that a majority of them were people he only spoke to for voice lines. However, when looking at his online footprints, it becomes apparent that he was talking to these other in a larger capacity. For example, one of these narrators, ParanormalMango, did several videos of herself playing video games with Creeps, MrCreepypasta, and MissShadowLovely (Jr's girlfriend), but also regularly interacted with these narrators on Tumblr, even making posts about some of their Skype discussions. Creeps even met Mango in real life, at a narrator meetup in July 2013.

Here's one of the videos of Mango playing videogames with Creeps, MCP, and ShadowLovely
- https://youtu.be/z4TnkN5QJJE

I have a document where I go more in depth into Creeps' ties with all the narrators in "The Street" but the three narrators who had the most significant ties to Creeps, were TheDarkmander, Zombie Doll, and Scarecrow1719.


TheDarkmander
TheDarkmander was a narrator who had numerous interactions with Creeps between 2012 and 2013. In addition to Creeps' commenting on some her videos, they also had several Skype conversations together (based on Tumblr posts from people within their circle), appeared together in a 40 minute Q&A (recorded from Skype), and even met each other in real life at least twice. TheDarkmander. She was also 14 years old in 2012. This can be confirmed because she states as such in a Q&A featuring Creeps and herself, “Would you like tea with that”.

"Would you like tea with that" Q&A
- https://youtu.be/NxldRR-eQHo (The timestamp is 19:54).

TheDarkmander also has a Q&A on her channel featuring MrCreepypasta, “Question and Answer, feat. MrCreepyPasta, TheMsZombieDoll and ParanormalMango”. Creeps’ and MCP’s behavior towards her was deeply inappropriate. For example, Creeps and his friends would get her to write erotic fanfiction featuring themselves and other narrators, such as one with MrCreepypasta and the narrator, LittleCreepypasta13.

But what is most concerning is Creeps’ and MCP’s conduct towards her in the two Q&As and that Creeps met up with her a minimum of two times. The first meeting Creeps had with her was in December 2012. In this meeting, Creeps and her were also accompanied by Zombie Doll, another narrator that appeared in “The Street” who was 16 at the time.

In both Q&As, TheDarkmander and Zombie Doll go into detail on their meeting with Creeps, in which he took them to a soap shop, to get henna tattoos, and other activities that a grown man would assume young girls would like. The description of these events are bizarre to say the least, with them talking about putting lipstick on Creeps and other bizarre, flirty behavior. When talking about this meeting, Creeps even states, “What happens in London stays in London”, in a playful fashion. In the “Would you like tea” Q&A, Darkmander also mentions being in contact with Creeps since near the beginning of his channel, to which Creeps affirms her statement.

The fact that Creeps was Skyping with a 14 year old girl at the same time in which he allegedly groomed Kumori is beyond concerning. In a Valentine’s Day video she made to Creeps, she also mentioned him calling her while she was at school. In the Q&A on her channel, she also goes into detail about a Skype conversation with Creeps about shipping, one that would eventually lead her into writing an explicit fanfiction featuring herself, Zombie Doll, and another narrator, Scarecrow1719 (who was also 16 at the time).

The overall conduct in these Q&As are also deeply inappropriate, such as Creeps joking about horse dildos, about Zombie Doll going to a gynecologist, and other sexual topics. Creeps and MCP also submitted questions to their Q&As which are also deeply inappropriate, such as MCP asking TheDarkmander about his penis size and Creeps asking her what she thinks of that “smexy” CreepsMcPasta.

Creeps also met up with her on July 2nd, 2013, at a narrator meetup and made possible plans to meet her at MCM Expo 2013 in October. Although there are no posts confirming if the latter did happen, all three did end up going to MCM Expo.
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In the Q&A on TheDarkmander’s channel, MrCreepypasta also discusses an “adorable” thing that TheDarkmander does with her voice and details voice recordings that he has of her. When Zombie Doll asks why MCP kept those, TheDarkmander responds stating that he “sins” to the “little noises” that girls make to which MCP laughs. I highly recommend you watch these two Q&As, because they give a better idea of these guys' lack of filter around teenage girls.

Links:
July 2nd Narrator Meetup

Would you like tea with that? Timestamps
https://youtu.be/NxldRR-eQHo
  • 5:12: Zombie Doll explains what got her into narrations and TheDarkmander, citing being friends with TheCreepyDark before his channel got traction. TheDarkmander interjects that it was the same with her and Creeps and that she had been friends with him since near the beginning of his channel.
  • 19:45: They discuss the explicit fanfiction that Creeps got TheDarkmander to write. At 19:54, TheDarkmander states, “And me, a 14 year old girl”.
  • 30:34: Horse dildo bit
  • 35:30: Creeps, Zombie Doll, and the Darkmander discuss their meeting.

Question and Answer, feat. MrCreepyPasta, TheMsZombieDoll and ParanormalMango Timestamps
https://youtu.be/u3f1l_gUdGI
  • 7:20: Zombie Doll and TheDarkmander’s discussion of their hangout with Creeps
  • 10:23: Discussion about the fanfiction and her citing Creeps as the one who gave her the idea to write it
  • 12:05: What do you think of that smexy CreepsMcpasta fellow?
  • 13:36: MCP bringing up the ‘“adorable” thing Darkmander does with her voice
  • 27:35: Question from MCP (“How big is MCP’s D”)
  • 29:15: Question from MCP (“What are you wearing”)
  • 37:18: Question from MCP (“Know any sexy single ladies”)
Get To Know: CreepsMcPasta (Special) Part 2 Timestamps
https://youtu.be/CDMHEyvTx7E
  • 10:32: Mentions his meeting with TheDarkmander and Zombie Doll when asked about what narrators he has met in real life.
MCM Expo 2013
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=386390398159524&id=100622176736349
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=386579844807246&id=100622176736349
“Can I Pikachu in the Shower” Fanfiction
Valentine’s Day video

Zombie Doll

Zombie Doll was a 16 year old girl who Creeps was also Skyping with at the time, who appears in the two Q&As TheDarkmander was in, and who also hung out with Creeps along with TheDarkmander in December 2012 (The same little soap shop/henna tattoo date). Both her and Creeps even posted pictures of their arms after getting henna tattoos.

Both her and Creeps were also admins for each other's Facebook pages. Like with TheDarkmander, Creeps and MCP’s behavior towards her was also inappropriate. In addition to commenting on her selfies with flirtatious captions, MrCreepypasta even sent her a corset and thong, which in addition to her making art and mentioning this in the description of it, also brings this up in her, “Would you like tea with that’"Q&A.

MrCreepypasta also had her sing “Santa Baby” on the Creepypasta narrator Christmas album and posted it with an “orgasm alert” gif. Additionally, he also drew fanart of her as a big tiddy waifu. Creeps would also have flirty back and forths with her on Facebook and the aforementioned Q&A was recorded on Skype, meaning that Creeps was also Skyping with this young girl.
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Links:
Posts confirming her age:
https://www.facebook.com/TheMsZombieDoll/posts/458300124257796
https://beckle-bee.tumblr.com/post/64997119454
https://beckle-bee.tumblr.com/post/87933661634
https://youtu.be/1vLEJdsXmbk

Posts about her meeting with Creeps
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=370411529716828&id=100622176736349
https://www.facebook.com/TheMsZombieDoll/photos/a.340729579348185/376447772443032
https://www.facebook.com/100622176736349/photos/a.189028884562344/230951510370081/

MrCreepypasta sending her a thong and his fanart of her:
https://www.deviantart.com/beckle-bee/art/MrChristmasPasta-The-Underwear-347736627
https://www.facebook.com/MrCreepyPasta/posts/415516671851418
https://www.facebook.com/TheMsZombieDoll/photos/a.340729579348185/371239372963872


Would you like tea with that? Timestamps
  • 12:38: MCP Question (“If you were in a porno”)
  • 19:00: Creeps making gynecologist joke
  • 29:15: Thong
  • 35:30: Creeps and her talking about their meeting in response to the question, “have you been on any dates”. (The other timestamps talking about their meeting are in TheDarkmander’s section).
Tumblr Interactions with other narrators/MCP Ogling her
Santa Baby Cover

Scarecrow1719

Scarecrow1719 was another girl within the narrator who was 16 years old at the time. She is also featured in the fanfiction that Creeps coaxed TheDarkmander into writing, “Can I Pikachu in the Shower”.

In addition to getting a 14 year old to write an explicit fanfiction featuring her having lesbian sex with Zombie Doll and Scarecrow having sex with the reader, he also did a “prank” on Scarecrow involving this story. On December 15, 2012, Creeps uploaded a video on his second channel where he tricked Scarecrow into reading the part of the story she was in by telling her that it was a “fight scene”.

He also recorded her reaction to the story, where she clearly displays discomfort at what she’s reading. Although the actual video is no longer on his channel, a snippet of it exists thanks to video called, “CreepsMcPasta is a Dick” (which Creeps himself commented on) and gifs of the video made by both Creeps and MrCreepypasta.

Creeps, TheDarkmander, and Zombie Doll also talk about the fanfiction in both of the Q&As and discuss the prank he pulled on Scarecrow. MrCreepypasta also drew fanart shipping the two together, which Creeps used as the thumbnail for his video.

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Links:
Description of the video on Creeps' second channel
Gifs by MCP and Creeps:

“CreepsMcPasta is a Dick”

Would you like tea with that? Timestamps
  • 9:52: Reference to the fanfiction
  • 19:45: Creeps talking about the video on his Creeps Plays channel
Question and Answer, feat. MrCreepyPasta, TheMsZombieDoll and ParanormalMango
  • 10:24: TheDarkmander goes into detail about the fanfiction and Creeps’ coming up with the idea for the “prank”
MCP’s Fanart
LittleCreepypasta13 Q&A

There are other young girls that were within the Skype group and who Creeps, MCP, and others acted really weird towards, but I'm highlighting these three because they were in their group back in 2012 (when Kumori supposedly got groomed) and because they all appeared in "The Street". If any of you have questions, I''ll try to answer them to the best of my ability.
 
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i don’t get it. instead of flinging accusations out there, why don’t these “victims” take their accusations to the police immediatly.
 
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i don’t get it. instead of flinging accusations out there, why don’t these “victims” take their accusations to the police immediatly.
This has already been repeatedly covered. It was taken to the authorities immediately. The alleged victim and perpetrator live in different countries. Police don't fly overseas to investigate and arrest people, and grooming a child online isn't something higher government officials are going to get involved in.
 
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