US U.S. Military Has Started Recalling Retirees Due to Recruiting Crisis - The U.S. Army recently announced that it is cutting thousands of positions. Authorized troop levels will now be an estimated 470,000 by fiscal year 2029, down 24,000 from its 494,000 soldiers.

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The U.S. Army Publishing Directorate released the ALARACT 017/2024, titled, “Utilization of the Army Retiree Recall Program.”

The document cites Executive Order 13223 from the Bush administration in 2001.

A retiree recall is a “retired Soldier who is ordered to active duty (AD) from the Retired Reserve or the retired list under 10 USC 688/688a, 12301(a), or 12301(d). Per AR 601-10, Recalled retiree Soldiers must be aligned to a valid vacant AC requirement that matches the grade and skill of the retiree before he or she may be recalled to AD,” according to the document. “The retiree population will be utilized as a last resort to fill Active Component vacant requirements.”

The ALARACT 017/2024 comes as the U.S. military is experiencing a recruitment crisis.

The U.S. Army recently announced that it is cutting thousands of positions. Authorized troop levels will now be an estimated 470,000 by fiscal year 2029, down 24,000 from its 494,000 soldiers.

“While making these investments and adding formations, the Army must also reduce force structure to protect readiness in light of decreased end strength. The Army is currently significantly over-structured, meaning there are not enough soldiers to fill out existing units and organizations. Army leaders seek to have at least 470,000 soldiers in the Active Component by FY29, which is nearly 20,000 above the current end strength but a reduction of about 24,000 authorizations compared to currently planned force structure,” the report states.

It added that the Army is “undertaking a similarly important transformation of its recruiting enterprise so that it can man units sufficiently, continue to bring the right types and amounts of new talent into the Army, and rebuild its overall end strength.” Noting the ongoing recruitment failure within the U.S. military, the document noted, “The Army must solve its recruiting challenges to successfully transform for the future.”

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I know this is a wild concept for the military, but have they considered keeping up retention?

Don't need to recruit fresh meat if you don't make it so miserable that JOs and junior enlisted want to get the fuck out of dodge as soon as possible.
No one wants to stay bc they put retards in charge who can't plan shit... "oh I told you, you have Monday off? Oops nvm I'm gunna text you at 11pm that you need to come on at 4am bc I fucked something up and I'm the worst commander of all time. K thanks bye."
P.s. I'm gunna throw you under the bus when it all turns to shit.
 
Just a thought, but wouldn't recalling disgruntled service men who hate the current military and it's leaders be a bad thing? I mean, were I part of the current military apparatus I'd be extra wary of old military coming back and creating cadres of like minded disgruntled soldiers who hate my guts and wouldn't mind perhaps staging some sort of soft coup to have me removed.
 
Just a thought, but wouldn't recalling disgruntled service men who hate the current military and it's leaders be a bad thing? I mean, were I part of the current military apparatus I'd be extra wary of old military coming back and creating cadres of like minded disgruntled soldiers who hate my guts and wouldn't mind perhaps staging some sort of soft coup to have me removed.
you are working off the assumption that they are thinking that far ahead about who they want to come back. We are at the "a body is useful" point.
im kinda surprised you said you would come back @JosephStalin even more so for current ongoings. Only thing I can think of that may get me to even think about going back in is a nice sign bonus and my pick of 2 bases back to back.
 
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you are working off the assumption that they are thinking that far ahead about who they want to come back. We are at the "a body is useful" point.
im kinda surprised you said you would come back @JosephStalin even more so for current ongoings. Only thing I can think of that may get me to even think about going back in is a nice sign bonus and my pick of 2 bases back to back.
Well, I'm retired, still being paid, still have the rank. You can always be called back, but the older you are the less the chance of a recall. Being in the seventh decade of life, highly doubt the chance of a recall to active duty.
 
Well, I'm retired, still being paid, still have the rank. You can always be called back, but the older you are the less the chance of a recall. Being in the seventh decade of life, highly doubt the chance of a recall to active duty.
The brass can still use a meat shield and they sure aren't risking any diversity officers on the front lines.
 
If you're going to stay for 20, or more, do it as an officer, commissioned or warrant
Isn't that the trick, get to warrant and then just never be in your office. The people who actual need you know how to find you, the rest of the time you become the unicorn that people talk about existing but never actually see? I do appreciate that the Marines have a warrant level position that sounds like Gun Autist.
 
Isn't that the trick, get to warrant and then just never be in your office. The people who actual need you know how to find you, the rest of the time you become the unicorn that people talk about existing but never actually see? I do appreciate that the Marines have a warrant level position that sounds like Gun Autist.
Could be, not sure. The AF hasn't had warrant officers in decades, I never saw one. Ya, the Marines have a warrant officer level position known as "Gunner".
 
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you are working off the assumption that they are thinking that far ahead about who they want to come back. We are at the "a body is useful" point.
im kinda surprised you said you would come back @JosephStalin even more so for current ongoings. Only thing I can think of that may get me to even think about going back in is a nice sign bonus and my pick of 2 bases back to back.
When they sent out letters to try and get back the people who got discharged over the shot, they were getting brought back in with their ranks and benefits stripped.

Those of us said that the next time the military asked them to come back it wouldn't be a choice. Certainly vindicated on that one.
 
Many such cases. Sad.

Even back in the early 2000's; one of my Sergeants in the school house had a side gig as a Dominoes delivery driver, and being a Marine he was authorized to deliver on Cherry Point. Same guys would order a pizza every week just so we could all yell "Oorah Sgt. Mittendorf!" at him. He'd always try to hide his face. No idea if he needed the money or was just doing it for extra, because I knew plenty of dudes who had side gigs just for more money. One dude who was getting ready to pick up Corporal as I was getting out, fucking calls me over to talk one day, figure he's looking for NCO advice. No, mother-fucker wanted me to get on Amway under him.

Isn't that the trick, get to warrant and then just never be in your office. The people who actual need you know how to find you, the rest of the time you become the unicorn that people talk about existing but never actually see? I do appreciate that the Marines have a warrant level position that sounds like Gun Autist.
You're not too far off with the idea of autist; as CWOs are supposed to be Masters of their Craft. They're supposed to be the guys where you come up with the most obtuse, archaic, wtf question you can think of; and he'll sip his coffee, stroke his barely in regulations mustache, and give you the answer, and that's if you can find him when he's not on infinite smoke break. Really cool guys, but at the same time, no doubt there's a hint of tism in the CWO Corps.

As for skating, I don't remember what the occasion was, I think his daughter graduated from SDSU or something; so our shop's gunner decided to throw a party and did an open invitation to everyone in the shop. Problem being, not everyone got the word; so come Monday morning, there's three of us, two non-rates and a Staff Sergeant. I'm the senior non-rate so Staff-Sergeant starts yelling at me to figure out where the fuck everyone is. No one is answering their phones, fucking no one, finally after like 20 minutes one of the Corporals pick up. Typical where the fuck are you, "I'm at the Gunner's house." The fuck are you doing there, "he threw a party and invited the shop, we're all here." Who's we? Literally names fucking everyone, passed out on his furniture or floor, and he says we don't need to come in today. Okay, I'll let Staff-Sergeant know.

So where they fuck are they? They're at the Gunner's house. Why the fuck are they at the Gunner's house? Apparently he had a party, they're all passed out on his floor. Are they alive? X says they're breathing. Alright whatever, just go home, we're done for the day.
 
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I'd almost guarantee this is due to Israel bombing that Iranian Embassy. Iran is definitely going to do something about it and Biden is 100% going to drag us troops into it.

And with Iran currently loving drones, it's going to be a bloodbath that I don't think anyone is prepared for.
I agree that was a horrific mistake. People can wave it off but there's literally no precedent for another nation intentionally striking an embassy. Oh sure you can hire a couple terrorists to do some proxy shit but a direct strike? Might as well declare war now.

The last time that happened was 20 years ago on accident from the US to China


And before some idiot says we can handle them. We wouldn't be sueing for peace with yemin now if we thought we could get our logistics together
 
Put me back on a submarine. I'll blow sans inboard daily. I'll TDU all the deckplate screws. I'll waste all the Tapatillo. I'll cut any phone cables I see without an in-date electrical safety tag. I'll turn the LAN switches off. I'll reposition ventilation to scalp tall people, I'll buy every log of dip at the NEX the day before an underway and scalp it, I'll make doc put me on supervised showers.

I'll do everything I can to kill morale without actually doing anything illegal.
 
Clickbait, and since the thread has 4 pages already, I'm probably not saying anything new. Reserves gets called first. You technically are signed on for 8 years, regardless of how long your contract is (4 - 6 years). Those remaining years put you in a status of some kind of reserve force where you can be recalled.
 
And before some idiot says we can handle them. We wouldn't be sueing for peace with yemin now if we thought we could get our logistics together
It's not about just "Handling them" or winning. It's the fact that they would DEFINITELY inflict a lot of casualties and destroy a lot of equipment.

Casualties and equipment that can't currently be replaced because recruitment is in the shitter, half of the new recruits they DO get are Troons or women that will never be useful in actual fighting, manufacturing stateside has been gutted, and a majority of surplus equipment has been shipped out to Ukraine and Israel already.

Basically, what the armed forces have right now is all they're getting for a while. So they can't afford any real losses.
 
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It's not about just "Handling them" or winning. It's the fact that they would DEFINITELY inflict a lot of casualties and destroy a lot of equipment.

Casualties and equipment that can't currently be replaced because recruitment is in the shitter, half of the new recruits they DO get are Troons or women that will never be useful in actual fighting, manufacturing stateside has been gutted, and a majority of surplus equipment has been shipped out to Ukraine and Israel already.

Basically, what the armed forces have right now is all they're getting for a while. So they can't afford any real losses.
And thus they bring back in the same people that want out of the military because it's gone out of its way to shit on them for a decade.

Nothing can go wrong with this plan
 
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