EU U.S. Navy jet flew across Baltic hours after Nord Stream burst

By Nerijus Adomaitis, Tim Hepher and Phil Stewart
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OSLO/PARIS/WASHINGTON, Oct 7 (Reuters) - A U.S. Navy reconnaissance aircraft flew near the site of the ruptured Nord Stream 2 pipeline in the Baltic Sea hours after the first damage emerged, according to tracking reviewed by Reuters, a flight Washington said was routine.

Russia's Nord Stream 1 and 2 pipelines burst on Sept. 26, draining gas into the Baltic Sea off the coast of Denmark and Sweden. Seismologists registered explosions in the area, and police in several countries have launched investigations.


Flight data showed a P-8A Poseidon maritime patrol and reconnaissance plane was over the North Sea at 0003 GMT when Swedish seismologists registered what they later described as a subsea blast southeast of Bornholm Island in the Baltic Sea.

The plane, which had flown from Iceland, performed a pattern of regular racetrack-shaped circuits over Poland before breaking away towards the Baltic pipeline area, data showed.
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The identity of the plane could not immediately be established because of the type of rotating identification code sometimes used by such planes, but the U.S. Navy confirmed it was an American aircraft when presented with data by Reuters.

"The U.S. Navy P-8A Poseidon aircraft shown in the tracking data conducted a routine Baltic Sea maritime reconnaissance flight, unrelated to the leaks from the Nord Stream pipelines," a U.S. Navy spokesperson said.

Asked if any of the intelligence gathered might help investigators looking into the pipeline ruptures, U.S. Naval Forces Europe-Africa spokesperson, Capt. Tamara Lawrence said: "We do not have any additional information to provide at this time."

It's unclear what role, if any, the U.S. military is playing to aid European investigations into the ruptures of the pipelines, although President Joe Biden has spoken about eventually sending down divers.

'CHESS GAME'​

According to the data, several minutes past 0100 GMT the plane flew south of Bornholm heading to northwestern Poland, where it circled for about an hour above land before flying at around 0244 GMT to the area where the gas leak was reported.

It came as close as some 24 kms (15 miles) to the reported leak site, circled once and flew towards the Russian exclave of Kaliningrad, a frequent focus for surveillance, analysts say.

Polish, Swedish, Danish and German ministries of defence were not immediately available for comment.

There is flight data missing between 0339 GMT and 0620 GMT, but on its way back, around 0700 GMT, the plane flew some 4 kms north of the reported leak site.

Reuters used a partial flight map from U.S.-based tracking website Radarbox complemented by data provided to Reuters by Sweden-based Flightradar24 to reconstruct the P-8's path.

Flightradar24 data showed the plane taking off and landing at Reykjanes peninsula in southwestern Iceland, where Keflavik Air Base is located along with reported P-8 hangar facilities.

The data emerged as the Baltic remains a front for Cold War-style tensions in the aftermath of Russia's invasion of Ukraine, according to analysts who caution it is impossible to establish with certainty the reason behind specific military flight paths.

"The Baltic is a very active sphere of confrontation with lots of probing and an endless chess game," said UK-based defence analyst Francis Tusa.

Poland's Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said on Thursday the pipeline burst was "most likely" the work of Russian special services, citing information from Western allies.

Western governments and officials have so far avoided pointing a finger directly at Moscow, while Russia has rejected any allegations of responsibility as "stupid", blaming the United States and its allies instead.
 
Totally unrelated and a coincidence I'm sure. The US government would never deliberately provoke conflict abroad for its own benefit.
Especially with its own allies. We all know the US kindly treats allies who's own interest might deviate slightly from theirs with dignity and respect
 
Especially with its own allies. We all know the US kindly treats allies who's own interest might deviate slightly from theirs with dignity and respect
Of course, lord knows our three letter agencies are entirely on the level and definitely don't commit sabotage against rival (and ally) governments in service of powerful political agendas.

Remember: there are five lights, we have always been at war with Eastasia, there is no war in Ba Sing Se, and the US government has committed no crimes.
 
So, a US Navy plane flew in to observe the damage....hours later.

Maybe I'm exceptional but I don't see how it's noteworthy that a US plane, which they are all over the fucking world but especially a lot of them in Europe, flew in to gauge the damage done; the P-8A especially since it's equipped with some pretty powerful sensor suites for monitoring underwater activity.
 
I am pretty dumb and believe in conspiracies.

But this story is pretty dumb.
It's not a conspiracy. The president and US state department have explicitly said that under no circumstances the Nord Stream 2 pipeline become operational. Given the geopolitical turmoil, the pipeline already being finished, and soaring energy prices, Germany was considering turning it back on to alleviate the pain felt by sanctioning Russia into oblivion. The US stands to benefit the most with the least risk because they have a lot of LNGs to sell, and are basically in total control over the narrative in Europe.

This has been demonstrated in the past with leaks coming out that the US used Europe's own infrastructure to spy on them, with a Danish seal of approval. Also with the infamous "fuck the EU" phone call, it can be concluded that the EU is in an abusive relationship with the US while pretending that everything it A-ok.
 
Biden says a lot of shit, or in this case he was true to his demented word?
Victoria Newland said it also. And Blinken remarked afterwards what a tremendous opportunity the destruction of the pipeline was for America. And there are years of open efforts by the USA to stymie these pipelines. Not that the case for the sabotage being US/US-sponsored is based on all these statements. It's that it's wildly against the interests of Russia and massively in the interests of the USA. I just thought I'd corrected your loaded and partial take on things. However demented Biden may be, he's still reading off the auto-cue and the prompts that his handlers give him.
 
It's not a conspiracy. The president and US state department have explicitly said that under no circumstances the Nord Stream 2 pipeline become operational. Given the geopolitical turmoil, the pipeline already being finished, and soaring energy prices, Germany was considering turning it back on to alleviate the pain felt by sanctioning Russia into oblivion. The US stands to benefit the most with the least risk because they have a lot of LNGs to sell, and are basically in total control over the narrative in Europe.

This has been demonstrated in the past with leaks coming out that the US used Europe's own infrastructure to spy on them, with a Danish seal of approval. Also with the infamous "fuck the EU" phone call, it can be concluded that the EU is in an abusive relationship with the US while pretending that everything it A-ok.
I agree that the Biden administration blew up the pipeline. But I think any tangential discussion about a jet flying over the site after the attack is just white noise that is meaningless.

US jets are everywhere all the time. Big deal.
 
So, a US Navy plane flew in to observe the damage....hours later.

Maybe I'm exceptional but I don't see how it's noteworthy that a US plane, which they are all over the fucking world but especially a lot of them in Europe, flew in to gauge the damage done; the P-8A especially since it's equipped with some pretty powerful sensor suites for monitoring underwater activity.
They could have gone over to gauge and finish the job, you do know the US was not the first one to report leakage, right? It was Denmark. Don't you think the plane would have noticed the giant bubbling and reported it immediately to the European authorities in the area? Don't you think the EU authorities would have mentioned that a US plane spotted the leak? Instead we only find out through flight data that it was present in the area.

I agree that the Biden administration blew up the pipeline. But I think any tangential discussion about a jet flying over the site after the attack is just white noise that is meaningless.

US jets are everywhere all the time. Big deal.
So why didn't the US plane report that they saw bubbling? It's pretty important considering this is a criminal investigation and could given credence to the fact that the plane saw the giant leak and did nothing, leading to more US suspicion
 
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