Disaster UN to Europe: Migration is Inevitable, Do Not Resist - "We are the Refugees. Lower your borders and prepare for cultural enrichment"

It make more sense, well to me at least, rather then import all these unskilled people into a higher tech level society why not take all the money and actually use it to improve the 3rd world?

We need to ask ourselves why is the 3rd world a giant pile of shit?
What is holding these people back from developing like the rest of the world?

Then we can tackle the issues once and for all rather then blowing large chunks of cash every few years assuaging "white guilt" whenever there is a famine.

The trouble is, no one can ask these question without being attacked or labeled by the progressive left.

Same issue really with the black community in America, you cant fix a problem you cant explore.

The sad truth is that our pouring money into shitholes in Africa is likely part of why the continent's issues have persisted as long as they have.

Think about all the unrest and violence in 19th and 20th century European history, or Asian history. Think of how many nations rose and failed in that time frame, and how catastrophic the consequences of that failure often were. But the lessons from that failure fundamentally changed societies in those areas and enabled them to get past the population explosion industrializing creates and form modern nations of varying stability. Now look at Africa, which never got to go through any of that while they were being ruled by Europeans and once the Europeans got the fuck out they keep nannying the people still left there, whether it's foreign aid from governments or the truckloads of NGOs that flew into the area all of a week after the colonial masters left offering the benefits of industrialization without any of the lessons.

The Western World has put Africa into a tiny box where the awful, completely nonsensical post-colonial borders don't change too much (unless you start a genocide that's making the UN look bad like in Sudan), and we hope for decade after decade that if we give them enough of the spoils of modernization they'll just shut up, listen to reason, and become representative democracies. But humans don't work that way. An individual might learn from someone else's advice but as groups we rely nearly exclusively on the school of hard knocks. Even the developed West had to drop a nuke a few times before everyone got the idea that maybe we'd gone too far in weapons tech, and if you let the people vote on it we'd probably nuke each other left and right even today. Africa needs to be allowed to fail and determine its own destiny.

All I can say is thank God the Spanish and Portuguese empires fell apart in the early 19th century instead of post-WWII or America would be dealing with a similar refugee crisis encouraged by the 3rd world shitholes that dominate the UN.
 
All I can say is thank God the Spanish and Portuguese empires fell apart in the early 19th century instead of post-WWII or America would be dealing with a similar refugee crisis encouraged by the 3rd world shitholes that dominate the UN.
To be fair, a lot of Latin American states prospered after independence. If you look at Brazil or Argentina from the turn of the nineteenth century to the 1960s, cities could be mistaken for Paris or New York City. All the communist bullshit and post-Cold War "Pink tide" which took over, or resources to suppress it, fucked shit up anyway.
 
It is a threat.

The UN's migration agenda is two fold. They have tried over and over to "help" Africa. They tried to ease their starving by helping them grow crops, gave dictatorships money to help their people, gave actual aid to the people on the ground. None of this has worked.
They're still starving, fighting each other and everyone else and they believe that people have gold in their heads.
The only way to achieve "modern colonisation" is to spread them out amongst the rest of the world. That way, everyone else picks up the tab for these primitive half humans and some may actually learn how to be normal people by being in a normal society (:optimistic:).
This kind of thing is suggested as a "reasonable solution" all the time by migration think tanks, though they use much broader sweeping terms. This tactic is being already used on a smaller scale in America - spreading low income people via gov housing to more affluent areas. They already admit it, it's not a secret - it's usually called the "Integration Initiative" by think tanks and organisations alike.

It's not an accident they're moving people at such a rate out of Africa and spreading them out. It's also not an accident that China knows exactly what's up and is attempting to industrialise Africa - and yet here people were thinking Ebola was going to be the super secret Soros eugenics answer to the African question.
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Not quite a supremacist, just a realist, it's sad the two are easily conflated these days.
The point was that based on demographics, agency data (both sides), community outreach and case studies done on migrant communities (specifically African), the data paints the picture on it's own - they have issues that need fixing before they can integrate. It'd be best if they did that fixing in Africa. Not just for regular people, but for themselves. They should flourish in their own environment.
The pro-migrant think tanks really do have strategies such as Integration Initiatives. Most pro-migrant think tanks follow UN brainstorming, protocol and suggested policy papers. Many believe that if they just move them to a better country, they'll be better off and be better global citizens who can bring the "western wisdom" back home, whilst they coddle them to uselessness in their own countries. Data shows they very rarely return. Why would they?

I'm pro making them build their own shitholes to a decent standard. On their own. In their own country. It creates pride and achievement. Spreading blight and poverty across the globe helps who? No one. It's not even logical. But pro-migrant agencies don't work on logic, they work on feelings. They focus too much on the individual human element of the situation, instead of the wider margins of impact.
 
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Weren't most european wars fought over land actually, rather than religion or culture? Even the catholic-protestant rift was basically an excuse for "I want that land and I don't like your monarch" .

I don't think there's a single war that's not about territory, so that's always a part of it. But the reason why its okay to take the land is always because the Serbs/Lithuanians/Danes/Suebes/Spanish/Genovese/English/Scots are r.etarded/stinky/stupid/ugly/evil/dumb. I mean the war-time propaganda is generally very similar.

To speak to your specific example, being Catholic in the US was a Concern as recently as JFK. And still is in some quarters.
 
It make more sense, well to me at least, rather then import all these unskilled people into a higher tech level society why not take all the money and actually use it to improve the 3rd world?

We need to ask ourselves why is the 3rd world a giant pile of shit?
What is holding these people back from developing like the rest of the world?

This is what I keep coming back to. I'm not opposed to the idea of immigration or rescuing refugees from terrible situations. I'm a bleeding heart deep down, I can't help but want to help. But my dilemma is in asking why the quality of life is so terrible in these places. The warn torn ones, the answer is obvious. But there are places not constantly sprinkled with explosions that are still nightmares for the people that exist there, and I feel like it doesn't have to be that way.
There's nothing unique about the first world countries that makes them comfortable. Air conditioned towers and frozen pizzas and sterile operating rooms don't grow naturally from the soil, someone has to build all that stuff. Too often it involves someone exploiting others, but it doesn't have to be that way. There are people in third world countries that can build pipelines and purify water and irrigate their town for bathing and growing crops, so why isn't that happening instead of just plucking a bunch of them out of their home and dropping them into a country they don't speak the main language in and struggle to work as borderline slave labor for some asshole who's company nets him an eight figure salary? I probably just answered my own question.

The world doesn't have to suck. Call me hopelessly optimistic, but I sincerely believe everywhere we exist can be turned into a nice place to live. That should be our primary goal, make everything as nice as possible for everyone, everywhere. And I don't mean in a white-savior first world way, I mean it should be what everyone wants, because how could we not want that? If there aren't enough resources we need to find more. If there's not enough skilled labor we need to emphasize basic education on a global scale. If they're not willing to improve their own communities then why do we want them in our communities? Maybe there will always be economic disparities, but there are disparities now and it's not a huge big deal. Being poor in the US means you still have streaming porn and dollar menu cheeseburgers and heat in winter. It should be like that everywhere. And I believe it can be like that everywhere, if we would just all pull in the same direction.

Right now we're just importing millions of third worlders and telling them that voting a certain way means they get free food and housing, but that's not really going to do anyone good in the long run.
 
Right now we're just importing millions of third worlders and telling them that voting a certain way means they get free food and housing, but that's not really going to do anyone good in the long run.

Well maybe expect the right wing extremists who'll profit from the local whites turning right.
 
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They bring rape and trucks of peace.

It really sounds threatening though. You will accept these refugees without question.

Europeans and westerners in general have every right to be wary based on what has been happening so far. So many of these refugees do not want to integrate with us or live by our rules and cultural norms. Too many come here and immediately demand we bend over backwards to accommodate them when they are the ones on foreign soil. Then they turn around and commit terrorist acts. So any ones who are decent and just want to live a life without fear of being murdered by machete wielding warlords or blown to bits in their sleep end up being seen much the same way by proxy because of all the recent attacks.

I really think most of these people would be happier in a country that is more like their own in terms of culture and religion. Unfortunately most countries like that are hell on Earth. So they have little choice but to hope they can reach a developed western country that actually cares about human rights.

A big problem here is that being of European descent puts you pretty low on the progressive stack. So you have all these SJW loons pushing for diversity and acting like white Europeans are all POC murdering colonials who's culture is garbage that doesn't need to be preserved. But Europeans are having their cultures greatly disrupted by migration. If it were any other group of people being moved in on it would be considered a travesty. You don't need money and power to disrupt culture. Migration can tear it down just as easily as colonialism can. All you need are the numbers and enough social stigma to shame people into shutting up when they feel threatened and encroached upon.

Europeans have a right to want to preserve thousands of years worth of culture. That doesn't make them racist. Videos like this sure make it sound like Europe is just being stubborn. They have a right to be wary and people need to stop acting like concern=racism.

People can bash the west all they want because "muh colonialism". But they shouldn't forget that in the west we actually give a damn about human rights and there is a reason why people seek out western countries and don't try to migrate to Pakistan or the DRC.
That's what's heart-breaking how cruel a lot of these migrants are. Thing is my family has a hard time believing me when I try to explain it.

It brings out a bit of the conspiracy theorist in me that these world leaders are in league with the leaders of these tyrannical countries and/or religious groups. The European leaders will get riches from the tyrants (oil, diamond mines, etc) in return for letting the tyrant's people come to countries and do what they want. So what if their own people are living in misery and the country is falling apart. They have safe little homes, money, moral authority and can flee the countries if things get bad. It just sounds silly to be so absorbed in such an idea.
 
That's what's heart-breaking how cruel a lot of these migrants are. Thing is my family has a hard time believing me when I try to explain it.

It brings out a bit of the conspiracy theorist in me that these world leaders are in league with the leaders of these tyrannical countries and/or religious groups. The European leaders will get riches from the tyrants (oil, diamond mines, etc) in return for letting the tyrant's people come to countries and do what they want. So what if their own people are living in misery and the country is falling apart. They have safe little homes, money, moral authority and can flee the countries if things get bad. It just sounds silly to be so absorbed in such an idea.
On this large of a scale. you're probably right.
 
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