Disaster Under Pressure, Security Firm Cloudflare drops Kiwi Farms Website - Noted LoTT doxer Taylor Lorenz weigh ins

SAN FRANCISCO — Reversing course under growing public pressure, major tech security company Cloudflare announced Saturday that it will stop protecting the Kiwi Farms website, best known as a place for stalkers to organize hacks, online campaigns and real-world harassment.
Cloudfare chief executive Matthew Prince, who this past week published a lengthy blog post justifying the company’s services defending Kiwi Farms, told The Washington Post he changed his mind not because of the pressure but a surge in credible violent threats stemming from the site.
“As Kiwi Farms has felt more threatened, they have reacted by being more threatening,” Prince said. “We think there is an imminent danger, and the pace at which law enforcement is able to respond to those threats we don’t think is fast enough to keep up.”
Prince said contributors to the forum were posting home addresses of those seen as enemies and calling for them to be shot.
Kiwi Farms launched in 2013 and quickly grew into a popular internet forum for online harassment campaigns. At least three suicides have been tied to harassment stemming from the Kiwi Farms community, and many on the forum consider their goal to drive their targets to suicide. Members of the LGBTQ community and women are frequent targets.
Cloudflare has faced broad backlash in the past week as a campaign for it to drop the service gained steam and widened to pressure paying customers to drop Cloudflare if it held firm.
Two weeks ago, Prince said the company stopped selling Kiwi Farms a $20 per month service to customize error messages shown to web users when its pages wouldn’t load. On Saturday, it withdrew the remaining free services, which fend off denial-of-service attacks and speed content delivery by making copies of the site in many locations.
Clara Sorrenti, a trans Canadian Twitch streamer known online as Keffals, launched the #DropKiwiFarms campaign after being targeted by Kiwi Farms posters for over half a year.
Forum users had repeatedly doxed Sorrenti and her family, posting addresses and more, and last month they called in false crime reports to draw police to her home. Sorrenti fled to Northern Ireland late last month, and within 48 hours users of the forum had pinpointed her location and she began receiving threats.
On Saturday, she spoke with The Post just minutes after police had arrived at her residence after another swatting attempt.
“There are countless people suffering because of this website,” Sorrenti said. “Kiwi Farms isn’t about free speech, it’s about hate speech. The majority of the content on the site is threads used for targeted harassment against political targets.”
Sorrenti’s campaign against Cloudflare went viral in the past several days, with organizations and influencers joining in the call to ban Kiwi Farms from Cloudflare’s service. The Anti-Defamation League called Kiwi Farms an “extremist-friendly forum that has been the breeding ground for countless harassment campaigns.”
In the interview, Prince said he was uncomfortable dropping Kiwi Farms despite its content and would have preferred a court order.
But he said it was an easier call than his previous decisions to drop neo-Nazi site the Daily Stormer and the 8chan website because those two were not hotbeds for specific violent plots.
Lorenz reported from Los Angeles.
This is a developing story. Check back for updates.

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[Vesperus]

If/when registrations open up again I wish NULL would require a phone number as well as a credit card to register.
And with the explicit warning "If you fedpost your dox will be sent to the FBI automatically"

I know we have an "agree to disagree" rule, but that is a fucking retarded idea. Go and sit in the corner and think about how retarded you are for saying it.

 

[Secret Asshole]

This was posted at 6:18pm ET, within minutes of the site going down (anyone know the exact time?). Lorenz tweeted it at 6:21pm, Null didn't even post his comment until 6:22pm.

Lorenz/the Post was definitely tipped off before this happened, they had the article already prepared

Update: Cloudflare CEO tweeted out the announcement at 6:15pm. telegram users started asking what happened at 6:16pm. so confirmed that the article came out within 3 mins of the site being down.

You are not allowed to question anything. Accept the reality we tell you. Do not believe your eyes or mind.

Honestly, the statement yesterday was just fluff for today. She probably had a day's warning. This guy's words are meaningless. He's trying to have his cake and eat it too. This never works and this is now time three. It's patently obvious he caved. He can say whatever the fuck he wants and he knows it.

Remember, all this is a show. It's all about virtue signaling and deluding their base that their both 'fair' and for 'free speech', which they aren't. All the right people need to do are show up and point to something, Cloudflare will flip flop to preserve itself and that will be that.

But by doing this, he's opened a can of worms that he can't go back and close. First time is random, second time is coincidence and a third time is enemy action.

Cloudflare should be viewed as an enemy of speech and the people, but that's no surprise, they're technocrats.

 

[Brutality]

Honestly with how prevalent social media sperging has become in recent years I always expected that cloudflare would eventually bend the knee, but it's still jarring that they published their first statement then 3 days later went back on it

 

[reptile baht spaniard rid]

KiwiFarms has the honor of joining the list of Dropped by CloudFlare™ at the number three spot. Trailing behind only Daily Stormer and 8chan.

There are others apparently, but dropped quietly and nobody noticed. Some were mentioned in the HN thread.

 

[Agent Abe Caprine]

https://twitter.com/OOHKAYEYE/status/1566225982985539585

View attachment 3677856

Fuck. The secret is out.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Cloudflares clearly lawyer written statement may also have run afoul of the 2017 US Supreme Court Case, Matal v. Tam. That was the big one that says that hate speech is free speech. It's why Matthew Princes' lawyers spent so much time writing about an impending emergency. All that crap about horrific content was actionable on the face without it.

Yet in this same statement they also say law enforcement was not taking it seriously so they needed to take unilateral action. And they said Keffals pressure campaign was part of the motivation for their unilateral action.

Get a lawyer @Null . These fucktards have written a full blown cause of action in public. But for the love of christ don't ask nick rekieta for a recommendation. Nick isn't a bad dude, but this is not his area of expertise.

You need a lawyer familiar with cases involving the Western Union telegraph company, civil rights, corporate law and has the right to practice in the relevant jurisdiction. Hopefully you can find such a white elephant. If not...and it pains me, call Robert Barnes. He's represented you already, he's done cases like this, and this situation is Crack Cocaine for him.

 

[God of Nothing]

You are not allowed to question anything. Accept the reality we tell you. Do not believe your eyes or mind.

Honestly, the statement yesterday was just fluff for today. She probably had a day's warning. This guy's words are meaningless. He's trying to have his cake and eat it too. This never works and this is now time three. It's patently obvious he caved. He can say whatever the fuck he wants and he knows it.

Remember, all this is a show. It's all about virtue signaling and deluding their base that their both 'fair' and for 'free speech', which they aren't. All the right people need to do are show up and point to something, Cloudflare will flip flop to preserve itself and that will be that.

But by doing this, he's opened a can of worms that he can't go back and close. First time is random, second time is coincidence and a third time is enemy action.

Cloudflare should be viewed as an enemy of speech and the people, but that's no surprise, they're technocrats.

they dropped to their knees
now they're going to get pantsed and thoroughly fucked, metaphorically speaking

 

[SwanDive]

Large corporations of all kinds are profit oriented at their core, regardless of how they promote themselves publicly. They are not anyone's political allies and will shift their position as necessary to protect their bottom line.

 

[Hand Banana]

Kiwifarms is a fun diversion for me, I'm a techie by trade.

The only thing I have learned from this is that Cloudflare will drop a client like a hot coal if there is twitter outrage.

This will affect my future recommendations concerning web infrastructure.

I am from a shitty country with a corrupt ex-president that sued google over some trolling, once she hears about this she will 100% use it to censor journalists. Thanks Keffals, you are helping a corrupt politician gain power and possibly become a dictator just because someone called you a faggot on the Internet. I already hated him but now i can see this affecting my country.

 

[Sithis]

Looks like LibsofTikTok is back on twitter, and apparently she had lawyers send a letter to twitter informing them of her intent to file a lawsuit against them.

https://twitter.com/libsoftiktok/status/1566246007469391872?t=r7qURENYTl9LLtEiFj4M_A&s=19

I know this is deserving of rainbows but @Null I think you should seriously consider at least having your legal advisors write a similar letter to Cloudflare. It probably wouldn't make a difference but who knows - they terminated service in such a way despite the site actually functioning as a platform is supposed to function, the offending post was removed and the user banned, and the rest of the content here is covered as free speech.

It probably wouldn't do shit, but considering the best the troons have is a bunch of screenshots and estrogen driven psychosis, maybe it might make CF reconsider who actually has the better case.

 

[Meat Target]

they dropped to their knees
now they're going to get pantsed and thoroughly fucked, metaphorically speaking

And they will deserve it.

 

[Next Task]

At the start of the year with the small group of mass shootings, a few posters here started saying everything was a false flag. Every time someone went out and did something violent, it glowed, and it got a bit ridiculous.

But this is why. Lucas has been lying about things happening to him for months. A serious of bad things that have happened to him have all been instantly believed and attributed to the Farms, no matter how obviously bullshit they are. Troons will manufacture harassment, and not for a second will they be doubted, from his UberEats account being hacked to deliver him food he wants, to Reddit tranny jannies posting CP in subreddits they want to take down, to the troons who claim they've had a single real-life interaction with a KF poster.

So it's understandable, reasonable even, to start expecting things to be a false flag when all these people getting what they want are simply believed, no questions asked. We're being framed - obviously and blatantly - but that's the narrative so no one cares.

This doesn't glow in the traditional sense, but it's an obvious coordinated gayop. But it's no wonder everything can seem to glow when you're being gaslit this hard.

 

[Stoneheart]

Get a lawyer @Null . These fucktards have written a full blown cause of action in public. But for the love of christ don't ask nick rekieta for a recommendation. Nick isn't a bad dude, but this is not his area of expertise.

we need Barnes.., he is the only high profile lolyer who will maybe take this case for free and he is a fighter.

 

[Haramburger]

Kiwifarms is a threat to human life yet Sanctioned Suicide is not. The fuq?

real niggaz have an account on both

Exit strategies just in case keffals wins

 

[God of Nothing]

At the start of the year with the small group of mass shootings, a few posters here started saying everything was a false flag. Every time someone went out and did something violent, it glowed, and it got a bit ridiculous.

But this is why. Lucas has been lying about things happening to him for months. A serious of bad things that have happened to him have all been instantly believed and attributed to the Farms, no matter how obviously bullshit they are. Troons will manufacture harassment, and not for a second will they be doubted, from his UberEats account being hacked to deliver him food he wants, to Reddit tranny jannies posting CP in subreddits they want to take down, to the troons who claim they've had a single real-life interaction with a KF poster.

So it's understandable, reasonable even, to start expecting things to be a false flag when all these people getting what they want are simply believed, no questions asked. We're being framed - obviously and blatantly - but that's the narrative so no one cares.

This doesn't glow in the traditional sense, but it's an obvious coordinated gayop. But it's no wonder everything can seem to glow when you're being gaslit this hard.

a pedophilic eunech groomer though
A fucking pedo with a mutilated dick that makes children wear fucking cat collars though.

 

[LMFAOForgotPw]

not to doom post too hard, but i would be horrible precedent if these twitter troons got all those sites to start taking down content. i mean google search, that's a given, wont be a problem. but if they manage to get wayback machine to remove all the stuff we've posted then that would just open the door to basically everything conceivable being taken down.

archive.org has removed content before on behalf of the feds and a twitter account thats mentioned earlier is included.

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I've started downloading whatever this is as the time of this post but can't watch it anytime soon.

thought filesize was odd. not sure how that messed up. anyways ill grab the full stream

https://anonfiles.com/53fcBf65y1/Sjc-2_Kiwi_Farms-0_Jqvldipft14_mp4

here is a link. im doing an encode to try and hit the site file size.

 

[mindlessobserver]

we need Barnes.., he is the only high profile lolyer who will maybe take this case for free and he is a fighter.

That's the problem. Barnes IS a lolyer.

But he was willing to go on the record saying he "represented the kiwifarms" during Patrick Tomlinson's subpoena kerfuffle. He's also talked big game.

Well, this could be his put up or shut up lawsuit. If not for him already representing the farms I would not recommend him. But he DID represent us before. Publicly it should be noted. And since any lawsuit around this will be public you can't just go down the street and hire the local General practice lawyer.

 

[make_it_so]

Honestly with how prevalent social media sperging has become in recent years I always expected that cloudflare would eventually bend the knee, but it's still jarring that they published their first statement then 3 days later went back on it

Which only strengthens my belief that "Social Media" by and large is an enemy of human freedom.

 

[Vesperus]

we need Barnes.., he is the only high profile lolyer who will maybe take this case for free and he is a fighter.

Nick Rekieta might be worth a poke. Probably not pro bono but it's possible a deal might be done over streaming rights...

 

[Pee Cola]

The fact that KF is still up despite Cloudflare bending the knee to the troon squad leaves an interesting perception about how effective Cloudflare's products really are.

I'm not saying Cloudflare's product is bad, but it's not a good look for a company that claims to be a leader in DDoS mitigation and whatnot, especially when the high profile website they've just dropped has been DDoSed almost non stop for over 12 months.