Undertale / Deltarune / Toby Fox Discussion

smartgenius55583433157 said:
Oh, that's gore... That's gore of my comfort character
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TheCrabber said:
Ok, apprently Wiztale did get impersonated and the person who did it as a social experiment for the deltarune community https://www.reddit.com/r/Deltarune/comments/1rwuhuc/update_wiz_was_in_fact_impersonated/
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"Hey, guys, me impersonating another person and doxxing a minor and sending gore videos to his family from the person's name was all a social expirement!"

Nah, your head is still ending up on a spike you fucking nigger

smartgenius55583433157 said:
I'd like to see a face of that type of Deltarune fan who screams about "Enby erasure" when they realize there's a whole country that literally gives no flying fuck about it whatsoever.
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Oh wait
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I'm gonna go and drink vodka after this

Also, the correct pronouns for Kris are "he/him", please don't misgender him...

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11?...

ONLY 11 transphobic comments?

Can we go... EVEN, FURTHER, BEYOND?
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Aghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!
 
So I saw Undertale patience soul fangame called Undertale Project Bluelight...
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And to be frank, I was quite displeased with the character being black. Not because I'm racist or anything, but because there are much better candidates.

Here is my ranking on how likely each fallen human would be a black person:

Preservance

Have you ever seen a nigga with cloudy glasses and a notebook studying? That's some white kid bullshit, bitch get the fuck outta the ranking.

Integrity

Integrity? The fuck'a intergity? Nigga I don't know, but, ain't no nigga doing ballet. I mean, have you seen a black girl do ballet? Of course not! Defenetly a white girl.

Patience

Patience? That's not about niggas. That faded ribbon ain't what a black girl gonna wear you bumasses. And a toy knife? Seriously nigga? What kinda nigga gonna go around with a toy knife and not a real knife? Also some bumass white girl.

Kindness

Yo, yo listen. Now this nigga's cooking. But I dunno, approns ain't for niggas. That shit's gay as fuck. Could be some girl, but come on, who handles fire with when they ain't got no batteries in the fire alarm? I don't think that's a nigga.

Justice

A strong nigga candidate, because he's the only going 'round with a gun, and only died when he got that shit empty. But he done having a cowboy hat so he's most likey a white dude, unless...
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Bravery

Defenetly a nigga. That nigga was moving through the underground just ko'ing niggas back to back gettin' them a free meetup with Luther King, and only died because he couldn't keep his ass from moving.
AND he has a bandana?

100% nigga
 
Asgore ran over dess for touching kris theory
Carol pays Asgore off so that he doesn't hurt the family name by telling people about the child moDesster
 
Recently found this very long critique of Deltarune 🄰: Despite it being 25,000 words of WORDS WORDS WORDS WORDS, I thought it was a surprisingly compelling read and figured you guys would be interested.
Points I agreed with:
Toby is afraid of writing anything truly heinous &/or anyone unredeemable. Main examples were where he originally made King super evil then backpedaled in future chapters, and him removing the Thorn Ring flower. He's at the mercy of his fandom more than even he might think.
The whole game is expressly designed to be a community experience à la Homestuck moreso than an actual game, and the gameplay suffers because of that. It also means the game will likely not age well after it's fully finished.
Berdly is a horribly mishandled character. Both with how he's a punching bag with little to no development, and with how him unceremoniously being in a coma for the two chapters after the Weird Route is proof that Toby didn't think through the consequences of (functionally) killing off a character that early in the game.
Toby Fox's very loud cult of personality has hampered most true and honest discussion of the game's flaws.
Despite him repeatedly claiming that he's very welcoming of fanworks and that "The Underground is as big as you want it to be," his actual actions regarding fanworks are dismissive at best and outright hostile at worst, especially when Fangamer and their legal suitkikes get involved.

Points I did not agree with:
Large amounts of the review are just the author saying he hates the writing style and other matters of taste, despite saying he's trying to be objective. On the contrary, I think Deltarune is the only thing in recent memory where “Make it dark, make it grim, make it tough, but then, for the love of God, tell a joke” hasn't made me want to roll my eyes.
A lot of listed pain points are CinemaSins-tier nitpicks, like how the Bunker having an electronic lock is apparently bad.
Despite many (valid) concerns about the disconnect between the ingame story and The Lore™, there were a few complaints that seemed to come from misreadings of obvious things. Worst offenders were complaints about Kris not being visibly evil (was the whole segment in Noelle's mansion not enough?), Gerson supposedly not fitting with the secret boss theme of enemies with deeper knowledge about the nature of the game setting (despite having studied the Prophecy and predicting the future multiple times based on it), and the overarching plot with the Dark Fountains supposedly not having a visible endpoint (because preventing the Book of Revelations from happening to your small town is not a reasonable goal).
There's a claim that UTDR is a sneering ironic deconstruction of the RPG genre like Class of '09, made out of hatred for the genre and marketed toward non-fans. Even if it subverts some common tropes, based on the amount of thought that has been put into the systems in both games, this is clearly not the case.

The author is very, very visibly SEETHING the entire time. The opposite of love is indifference and not hate, and the whole thing is anything but indifferent. I'm surprised he managed to get his thoughts across so well despite the steam blowing out of his ears. Since the last big fandom flareup was months ago, it makes me wonder what made him angry enough to type out twenty five thousand words about how much he hates it. Did a Spamton cosplayer fuck his wife?
 
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