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I'm starting to think that the shadow crystals are pieces of a broken mirror looking at different timelines. A few pages ago, someone posted a picture where it states that looking into the glass you see susie scowling, while outside the glass she's smiling and flipping you off. In another piece you see nothing, while outside it you see your hand. Some unused dialog appeared has been discovered too (chapter 5 maybe?) that looking into the glass you see Undyne frozen.

With Seam being the person sending you to get these crystals, he could be looking into a mirror and be seeing Gaster, which explains why he has the reverse-sided features of Gaster.

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Another update dropped for THAT scene. Imagery was updated from a boring as fuck dot to a bunch of thorns sprouting. The dot in this case was most likely a placeholder until he could figure out/make a suitable replacement for the rose. Maybe the ESRB or some lame as fuck corporation stepped in and said "dude what the fuck you cant put rape in this game" and told him it had to go? It's a good enough replacement/compromise for the rose that gets the point of the scene across without having to deal with his retard fanbase chimping out because le rape analogy.
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I'm still making rapenigga Kris jokes.

so, does that mean that he fucked her in the ass instead?
instead of deflowering her he broke her in?
 
Oh god that's worse than I thought. Why the fuck would he hire those guys with their track record of joining and backstab takeover/censor deals? HELL! HELL! HELL! MIKE WHY THE FUCK DID YOU APPROVE THIS
Look, I don't want to see Toby get backstabbed and leave his director position to his goons because he got #MeToo'd or some worthless melodrama like it. And if that did happen, I would be pretty sad.

BUT

I also would find it pretty hilarious.
 
Look, I don't want to see Toby get backstabbed and leave his director position to his goons because he got #MeToo'd or some worthless melodrama like it. And if that did happen, I would be pretty sad.

BUT

I also would find it pretty hilarious.
If this happens I'm doing genocide route IRL but with SJWs ...and I'm Sans.
 
Kris still evidently needs (you) for some reason or another. He may be able to get around fine after struggling to regain motor control but he might still die after a while without the soul.
I wonder if the theory that Dess did in fact die is true and Kris needs the soul in order to resurrect her. That might be why Kris is working with Carol in the first place, some huge plot to preserve the way things were before Dess died and Asriel went back to college.

Edit:Writing this tomorrow so I can remember to write my theory on Time and Mettaton Neo
 
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You forgetting that Alpyhs is a shit teacher and only got the job due to Toriel? It's been revealed since Ch.1 that Kris sleeps through Alphys' class.

Kris' normal behaviour is Michael Myers, except for Asriel he's willing to do petty and creepy things to the monsters around him.
Right, he's a psycho angsty sickly teenager... Who then cries that no-one likes him, despite the former.

Also, Kris being able to get around fine without the soul doesn't make any sense, initially it seemed like he needed it to survive and could barely get around without it, but now he only needs it to enter dark worlds (for whatever reason)
So why does he willingly give us control over him during the light world sections? Why bring the soul to noelle's house in the first place?
He doesn't. He frequently collapses from exhaustion after removing the soul (like in Chapter 2's start, he sleeps at the start of Alphys' class, not in the middle), he collapses at least twice during chapter 4 and I believe that if you pay attention at the piano bit, he fucks up some of his notes randomly, as if his hands weren't all that responsive (oh, and he has a seizure after putting the soul again).
He's not fine without a proper soul and he might in fact be getting worse.

so, does that mean that he fucked her in the ass instead?
instead of deflowering her he broke her in?
Apparently, that scene has been edited AGAIN to show how you force Noelle to wear the thorn, so it's okay folks, it's no physical rape, and no ambiguity at all!
Also, Noelle screams at least twice and no-one in the house hears it. Must have thick walls.
 
This is like the fifth nigga that walks into the thread to ask retarded questions about a topic he doesn't give a shit about
> Is this multiple chapter game done so I wouldn't need to wait years for the conclusion?
> Why would you ask question about a game in a game thread?
Okay jan.
There's another two Chapters 3&4, 5, 6, and 7 are releasing for free, but Toby has said he might increase the price of the game over time as well.
I'd recommend pirating it before buying it, like any digital other game.
I'll wait for the final chapters to come out, but sounds like a lot of drama with rapes(?)
 
> Is this multiple chapter game done so I wouldn't need to wait years for the conclusion?
> Why would you ask question about a game in a game thread?
Okay jan.
holy fucking shit nigga do you also wander into the chris chan thread and ask "can someone give me a quick rundown on this guy? is he still posting videos?"
you know you can just copy and paste your question into any search engine and you will immediately get a direct answer. a 10 second glance at wikipedia will also answer your question.
to answer your question about the rape drama all you have to do is read the last couple pages itt as the entire extent of it has been repeatedly explained at least once every ~3 pages. but just to humor you, no there is no rape, there was a scene that could be construed as an abstracted/artistic depiction of rape if you really grasp at straws. this was enough for the deltatroon community to lose its shit so toby had to go change the animation immediately.
and i thought this thread being 99% pink join dates was bad enough...
 
I just watched the original 20 second """rape""" scene after seeing the memes. Not a single thought of anything even remotely sexual appeared in my mind as I watched it. Literally how the fuck a flower withering is rape? Why replace with a literal GLASS SHATTER which CAN and WILL be clearly interpreted as hymen breaking? If he did it on purpose to piss the fans off than that's actually pretty hilarious.

Anyway, I didn't get to spoil anything to myself yet (other than the aforementioned "rape", on accident) or play the new chapters and won't really get to in the following weeks. Can someone tell me in general terms if they are any good or should I expect to be disappointed? Is the Weird Route still as dismal and hardcore as in Chapter 2? Somebody in this thread mentioned something about decreasing quality of script or whatever so I'd like to know in advance if I'd be wasting time playing through the new chapters.
 
Can someone tell me in general terms if they are any good or should I expect to be disappointed?
chapter 4 is good except for the very end (imo), chapter 3 is strongly meh with a decent finale. it has a few cool moments but the gameplay is kind of a slog. i think some future gameplay updates could fix that problem if toby bothers to address it.
Is the Weird Route still as dismal and hardcore as in Chapter 2?
chapter 3 has barely any weird route developments, chapter 4 has some dark moments that become yet darker in the weird route but its not a gamechanger in either of them like it is in chapter 2

the rule of thumb still applies that its a game best experienced by playing it rather than watching a video, so if youre interested in the overall story then theres no reason not to at least pirate it. overall its not as strong as chapters 1 & 2 but its still worth playing
 
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[I'm starting to think that the shadow crystals are pieces of a broken mirror looking at different timelines. A few pages ago, someone posted a picture where it states that looking into the glass you see susie scowling, while outside the glass she's smiling and flipping you off. In another piece you see nothing, while outside it you see your hand. Some unused dialog appeared has been discovered too (chapter 5 maybe?) that looking into the glass you see Undyne frozen.

With Seam being the person sending you to get these crystals, he could be looking into a mirror and be seeing Gaster, which explains why he has the reverse-sided features of Gaster.
It could also be showing you the future. Susie being mad at Kris working with the Knight, Undyne in the dark world being frozen by the knight in a berdly sort of situation, and Kris missing a hand. Although the other visions are Tenna smashed after you beat the Knight but before you exit the Dark world, Noelle whispering something to Kris while in Chapter 4's Light World segment at the beginning, in the first Sanctuary in Chapter 4 you see the Church's lobby, and whenever you use a crystal in front of the Prophecy nothing changes.
With the, The Man, our best Gaster candidate. Revealed to not be Gaster,

Other than that there's some interesting stuff looking back at Chapter 2. When Spamton was cut off from talking about how the Knight relates to communion, it was probably Kris threatening him to not spill the beans. Spamton also says that him and Kris don't need CRTs or easels, which is interesting as the man points Kris to draw on an Easel in the fourth Egg Room.
I bring up the Egg room since the room its connected two has some interesting dialogue from the leftmost bookshelf and the enemy there.

And so wept the fallen star, making rivers with its tear. Then, slowly, from the bitter water, something grew. It looked like glass.
Which seems to describe the creation of Shadow Crystals, which is interesting since we know that Darkness is for synonymy with Star in regards to the elements that make up Deltarune's world. Titans also have stars for faces, and the save points are white stars, meaning their creation may have something to do more with the Dark Worlds and Titans then Gaster. Although Seam seems to be trying to create the Pure Crystal that Malius can combine with the Thorn Ring(only accessible in the aborted snowgrave route) to create the Twisted Sword that lowers the trance stat of whoever is holding it. The Pure Crystal could also hypothetically be used to create the unused Sky Mantle item, which may be connected.
I do find the Twisted Sword being locked to the aborted Snowgrave route interesting, as you can't get the Chapter 2 Egg in the Snowgrave route.
 
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He doesn't. He frequently collapses from exhaustion after removing the soul (like in Chapter 2's start, he sleeps at the start of Alphys' class, not in the middle),
That was before the new chapters
he collapses at least twice during chapter 4 and I believe that if you pay attention at the piano bit, he fucks up some of his notes randomly, as if his hands weren't all that responsive (oh, and he has a seizure after putting the soul again).
He trips on the ground randomly only after putting the soul back on, fucking up a few notes is just a regular thing that everyone does, he plays perfectly most of the time, he walks fine, he makes himself chocolate milk, he can go on acrobatic tom & jerry mouse chases with the soul, it's clear that they retconned the whole dynamic
 
He trips on the ground randomly only after putting the soul back on, fucking up a few notes is just a regular thing that everyone does, he plays perfectly most of the time, he walks fine, he makes himself chocolate milk, he can go on acrobatic tom & jerry mouse chases with the soul, it's clear that they retconned the whole dynamic
I'm telling you lads.
Kris has been described as a notorious prankster, and in this scene when he isn't aware of our presence he walks normally.
Which to me implies the 'zombie walk' he's been doing has literally just been to fuck with us.
Kris is the kinda motherfucker to use 4chan back when it was good; fucker has a /k/nife collection for crying out loud; and have a Kiwi Farms account.
Dude's probably reading the thread right now laughing at our dumbass speculation.
 
holy fucking shit nigga do you also wander into the chris chan thread and ask "can someone give me a quick rundown on this guy? is he still posting videos?"
you know you can just copy and paste your question into any search engine and you will immediately get a direct answer. a 10 second glance at wikipedia will also answer your question.
to answer your question about the rape drama all you have to do is read the last couple pages itt as the entire extent of it has been repeatedly explained at least once every ~3 pages. but just to humor you, no there is no rape, there was a scene that could be construed as an abstracted/artistic depiction of rape if you really grasp at straws. this was enough for the deltatroon community to lose its shit so toby had to go change the animation immediately.
and i thought this thread being 99% pink join dates was bad enough...
It's just funny to watch them fumbling with the reception
"err, the flower might not have been a good idea, let's instead make it glass that shatt-
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