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skyraider91 said:
"Catie" never materially harmed Chris, was never mean to Chris, and was always reasonable with Chris. Several weeks ago, I was having a private conversation with an involved person, and they said to me "You know, people on the forums think that Catie is evil and is behind all the stupid shit that Chris's done recently, but the truth is that Chris has done a much better job of trolling himself this year than Catie ever has."
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I think it's because these leaks only show Chris' behavior post-break-up. For someone who doesn't know all the details of what happened in the relationship, it can seem at least a bit reasonable for Chris to be upset about Catie breaking up with him (although he's handling it in a profoundly unreasonable way). I'd love to see some leaked documents from when they were still "going out" or in an "open relationship". Watching Chris bitch and moan even when things are (seemingly) going his way will help people feel a lot more sympathetic to Catie.
 
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"Empathize with me": A CWCism meaning "give me everything I want and acquiesce to all my demands, starting with sex."
 
Skyraider, I'm glad you used the word "simulated," because that's how I've viewed this endeavor/saga/whatever people are calling it. It's been excessively obvious over the years that the more Chris shuts himself off from society, the less of a chance he has with actually interacting with it. Characters like Catie simultaneously allow Chris to have some sort of a social life and allow his observers to, well, observe. It's a friend/girlfriend simulator, and as long as the character that's interacting with him isn't doing BlueSpike-type behavior and actively trying to harm or embarrass him, I don't see a problem. I don't even think the break-up process is being mean, because he'd be facing real (and probably much nastier) break-ups if he did get real women to hang around him. Megan and Wallflower confirm this, and they weren't even going out with him.

My only question to the people involved (as well as to Thetan while she was talking to him): Was there ever a moment that gave you a tiny glimmer of hope that he might actually improve? You guys have all given him basically the best case scenario, and I'm just curious if the opportunity did come up and he wasted it, or if it never materialized to begin with.
 
Flowerwall said:
My only question to the people involved (as well as to Thetan while she was talking to him): Was there ever a moment that gave you a tiny glimmer of hope that he might actually improve? You guys have all given him basically the best case scenario, and I'm just curious if the opportunity did come up and he wasted it, or if it never materialized to begin with.
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I honestly think that everyone involved would be glad to see Chris improve himself or learn something for once, but it never happened, and none of us really expected it to, at least, I didn't. Chris is stubborn and highly resistant to change.
 
skyraider91 said:
If you have any questions, please ask. I will answer what I can at this time.
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One thing I am interested to know is how much information are you guys going to release from this experiment (if you know and aren't still sifting through it now?)

I am fairly sure I am not the only person whose interest in Chris transcends morbid fascination and is now a source of insight and analysis for whatever field is relevant to them - and I would like to know the completeness of what I'm reviewing.

Obviously given it's Chris there might be stuff that's unethical or otherwise a bad idea to release, I was just wondering.

Also are we going to get a review of Catie's meet ups with Chris? I would like to see how his behavior compares to his other dates and meet ups with girls.
 
Chris seems to think that relationships are like a dating sim, and if you just press the right sequence of buttons, you'll win the girl. And then when he feels he's pressed all the right buttons and the girl is still saying no, he gets angry. "I did all the right quests, Catherine, where is my sex scene reward? This game is BROKEN! I've been CHEATED!"
 
Geo said:
Also are we going to get a review of Catie's meet ups with Chris? I would like to see how his behavior compares to his other dates and meet ups with girls.
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The IRL meetups are fully documented.
 
Chairman Meow said:
Chris is giving advice on how to empathize with others.

Chris. Is giving advice. On how to empathize.

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To me, one of the most interesting things about Chris is how he constantly attaches importance to qualities he does not (or cannot) have. It is obvious to anyone who knows about Chris that he is no better at demonstrating empathy than other people who have autism. People learn to live their lives with a diminished understanding of empathy all the time, it isn't a big deal; unless you're Chris. He decided to place a lot of importance on empathy and convinced himself that he's more empathetic than he is. In a way, it's like he's tricking himself into believing that he beat his autism. His lifestyle allows him to believe this delusion because it isn't often challenged. In a way, it's a lot like the importance he puts on romance and sexuality.
 
mlane said:
Chris seems to think that relationships are like a dating sim, and if you just press the right sequence of buttons, you'll win the girl. And then when he feels he's pressed all the right buttons and the girl is still saying no, he gets angry. "I did all the right quests, Catherine, where is my sex scene reward? This game is BROKEN! I've been CHEATED!"
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Chris just feels that he deserves whatever he wants, period. Of course that includes sex and girls.
 
Well if I hadn't been interested in seeing all of Catie's content, I would be now. I've always been curious about what would happen if Chris met a girl patient enough to put up with his shit (figuratively) and I'm honestly curious about how Chris would react to it. I've been of the opinion that tough love might be the best thing for him now, and I'd like to see how he reacted to someone trying to be gentle with him.

@skyraider91 is Catie going to stay in the picture? Or is she going to gradually disengage? I wouldn't blame her for abruptly disengaging, like Renee.
 
warongiygas said:
To me, one of the most interesting things about Chris is how he constantly attaches importance to qualities he does not (or cannot) have. It is obvious to anyone who knows about Chris that he is no better at demonstrating empathy than other people who have autism. People learn to live their lives with a diminished understanding of empathy all the time, it isn't a big deal; unless you're Chris. He decided to place a lot of importance on empathy and convinced himself that he's more empathetic than he is. In a way, it's like he's tricking himself into believing that he beat his autism. His lifestyle allows him to believe this delusion because it isn't often challenged. In a way, it's a lot like the importance he puts on romance and sexuality.
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Chris is completely unwilling to face reality. He avoids or denies unpleasant truths, lying to himself or fantasizing, instead of dealing with his issues and problems. It is a behavior that he's learned from Bob and Barb, and it has mentally crippled him as much as his Autism. Chris's upbringing doomed any chance he ever had of being a happy, functional human being. All his parents ingrained into him was a false sense of pride, lies, and a stubborn, arrogant malice.
 
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DeadMansHand said:
Adding context to Chris's messages makes him look even worse. He's just manipulative, whiney and entitled.

Catie might have trolled him but it doesn't look like she led him on in any way. He just comes across as a ridiculously selfish prick.

More accurately, a bent ridiculously selfish prick held in by a weird belt contraption.
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Yeah the email where he goes off about her "bitchy ass" I thought for sure something a little more confrontational was said by Catie. Nope. :lol:
 
mlane said:
Chris seems to think that relationships are like a dating sim, and if you just press the right sequence of buttons, you'll win the girl. And then when he feels he's pressed all the right buttons and the girl is still saying no, he gets angry. "I did all the right quests, Catherine, where is my sex scene reward? This game is BROKEN! I've been CHEATED!"
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That's actually fairly apt. Chris has immersed himself in video games and cartoons for so long that he believes that the world works that way. Do this, say that, and eventually you get the girl.

A big part of Chris's failure at life is everything has been handed to him with no work on his part. His parents spoiled him his whole life, the government gives him free money, so he expects everything to be given to him because that's the way it's always been. The same thing goes for having bans lifted from him at the places he likes to go. He wants it, he should get it, and he shouldn't be expected to conform to social norms. Everyone should accept his behavior because he's special.
 
This blows my mind. I really question if Chris will be able to live on his own once Barb is gone. He is completely detached from reality.
 
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