US Instances of Voter Fraud (Megathread?) - Probably a good idea to have a thread on this given how often it's discussed and will continue to be discussed even after November.

[The Pink Panther]

Say, looks like Orange Man was right once again, right?

Right?

 

[Getting tard comed]

Does it matter if it's true? The possibility of this happening should be enough to raise alarms.

 

[Allegory]

 

[Meat Target]

At this point, I don't care about "muh voter supreshun". Why should we play by the rules if they would never give us the same courtesy in a million years?

These power-obsessed psychopaths are okay with "any means necessary" to get what they want. To them, the ends justify the means.

We are morally obligated to keep them away from the reins of power.

 

[It's HK-47]

Does it matter if it's true? The possibility of this happening should be enough to raise alarms.

It absolutely happens, but this guy is insisting that 500-1,000 votes is "enough to flip states" which is absolute hogwash. There's no way to logistically carry out voter fraud on the sort of scale that would be required to flip national elections without inevitably hiring an undercover cop or a citizen who has every intention of blowing the whistle on the operation.

Just look at the 10 closest states in the 2016 election. If you just look at the percentages it's like "Holy shit we barely won that!" but if you look at the actual numbers, the closest state--the state where there was barely even a gap--was New Hampshire with a difference of 2,701 votes. 500 or even 1,000 votes wouldn't have flipped even the closest state in that election, and this entire fiasco is counting on mail-in voting on top of that.

Mail-in voting won't even matter if everyone just goes to vote in person, and even the NBA, in its infinite wisdom, has gone out of its way to convert its courts into voting stations to "stick it to Trump" because they're idiots and don't realize that in-person voting overwhelmingly favours him because people like this dude up here can't do shit if the ballot doesn't pass through the mail, first.

This kind of stuff can royally fuck up local elections, but on a national scale, this kind of operation wouldn't even make a dent, especially in an election like 2020 which is probably going to have a fucking astronomical level of voter turn-out. This is another good example of why information is inoculation against fear. If you actually know what's going on, people can't scare you with crap like this.

 

[kcbbq]

If you take all the ballots ever cast even millions of fraudulent ballots become statistically nothing, and even the election that a federal judge mandated a new election due to the fraud never happened. That's the game. It means you can ignore that Democrat official in Ohio that went to prison for getting caught voting for her entire extended family, and the entire 20th century history of Illinois.

 

[The Dude]

The only way people will be surprised by this news is if they haven't been paying attention. And don't forget all the corpses who have voted Democrat in the past few decades.

 

[Exigent Circumcisions]

he said he felt compelled to come forward in the hope that states would act now to fix the glaring security problems present in mail-in ballots.

Now? Two months out from the election? Putting aside the veracity of the claims (I don't doubt them, for the record), this is a little bit late for any significant change to be made. It is perfect timing to further muddy the waters and push this even harder into contested election territory, though.

 

[Fork Cartel]

At this point, I don't care about "muh voter supreshun". Why should we play by the rules if they would never give us the same courtesy in a million years?

These power-obsessed psychopaths are okay with "any means necessary" to get what they want. To them, the ends justify the means.

We are morally obligated to keep them away from the reins of power.

I can't fully believe in this article but given the way the left refuses to "play nice" now, it is frighteningly plausible

 

[Homersexual]

Lets say you wanted to share your knowhow on voter fraud to your likeminded and eager individuals without leaving a paper trail. How would you do it? Sharing the tricks through a widely circulated article would do the trick. Bonus points if you appear remorseful in the article. If someone uses the tricks detailed in the article and gets caught your hands are clean.

Hypothetically of course.

 

[Meat Target]

https://www.newsweek.com/mail-voting-democrats-1527969

hile President Donald Trump has accused Democrats of working to "steal the election" amid the COVID-19 pandemic, a recent study has concluded expanded mail-in voting would not help them do so even if that were their motivation for backing it.

Trump has long been outspoken against universal mail-in voting, with some advocating for every eligible person to be sent ballots to cast absentee amid the COVID-19 crisis, suggesting the system will be susceptible to fraud.

His claims, made without evidence of examples of widespread fraud previously, have been dismissed by some as made due to fears expanding such voting could contribute to a defeat.

However, a recent study found that expanded mail-in voting, in states which had previously implemented it, did not have a partisan impact on results.

The abstract of the paper, named The participatory and partisan impacts of mandatory vote-by-mail, states: "Mandatory vote-by-mail ensures that citizens are given a safe means of casting their ballot while simultaneously not advantaging one political party over the other, while other states allow absentee ballots to be applied for with no reason necessary as to why the voter wants one.

While Trump has questioned the system, there have also been concerns raised over changes at the USPS, with worries these could cause issues for voters.

A mail worker wearing a mask looks out the window while driving past the "Save The Post Office" rally outside the James A. Farley main post office building on August 25, 2020 in New York City. Discussions around voting by mail have intensified amid the COVID-19 pandemic.

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Legit, or are they bluffing to get Republicans to let down their guard?

 

[Ruin]

"We come in peace and won't turn you into goop with our phazors" says benevolent alien overlord.

 

[AnotherPleb]

That is utter bullshit and they know it.

 

[Iwasamwillbe]

Legit, or are they bluffing to get Republicans to let down their guard?

My money is on bluffing. That "his claims, made without evidence of examples of widespread fraud previously" quote sealed it for me.

 

[Ruin]

So those four Chicago districts that had 227% voter turnout in 2016, any explanation for them yet?

 

[WinchesterPremium]

It really should link to the study. If it did I missed it.

It does note a change in voter turnout where more democrats voted compared to republicans and independents, but insists the difference is too small to matter in most cases. It does seem to be written from the perspective of someone who is pro-vote-by-mail from the start.

 

[Hollywood Hitler]

His claims, made without evidence of examples of widespread fraud previously

That's true, if you conveniently ignore all the evidence and instances when it has happened.

 

[dreamworks face]

Never trust democrats, even anonymous ones. This reads like a LARP.

The voting in the US is so obviously insecure that in my government class, a literal down syndrome retard asked questions like "how do we know that our vote counted if no one knows who voted"? It's insecure by design - your vote doesn't actually matter.

lol if you make it this far and believed my down syndrome retard story.

 

[Jewthulhu]

Legit, or are they bluffing to get Republicans to let down their guard?

 

[Not Really Here]

Pretty hard to claim that when that New Jersey election has to be redone because it was fucked up so badly.