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US may have to keep some social distancing measures until 2022: study
Harvard researchers used computer models to simulate how the COVID-19 pandemic could play out.
By
Joseph Guzman



The United States may have to keep some social distancing measures in place into 2022 until a vaccine becomes widely available, according to a modeling study published Tuesday in the journal Science.
Researchers from Harvard University’s T.H. Chan School of Public Health used computer models to simulate how COVID-19 could spread over the next five years.


Researchers say based on simulations of the coronavirus outbreak’s future course, prolonged or intermittent social distancing — such as stay-at-home orders and school closures — may be necessary over the next few years.
“Intermittent distancing may be required into 2022 unless critical care capacity is increased substantially or a treatment or vaccine becomes available,” researchers wrote in their report.
“We do not take a position on the advisability of these scenarios given the economic burden that sustained distancing may impose, but we note the potentially catastrophic burden on the healthcare system that is predicted if distancing is poorly effective and/or not sustained for long enough,” the report said.
The study noted, however, more research is needed to determine if the virus’s spread changes with the seasons, how long immunity to the new coronavirus lasts and if exposure to coronaviruses that cause mild illnesses offer any protection against the virus that causes COVID-19. Health officials have also said a vaccine could take 12 to 18 months.
Economies around the world have come to a standstill due to social distancing measures meant to curb the spread of the virus, as nonessential businesses have closed, prompting millions of people to be laid off or furloughed. Pressure is growing to loosen restrictions in the U.S. and elsewhere to get the economy up and running again.


President Trump has appeared eager to lift federal social distancing guidelines that have urged Americans to limit gatherings to 10 or fewer people, to avoid public spaces like restaurants and to work from home if possible. Those guidelines are in place through the end of the month.
Trump will likely unveil guidelines this week geared toward allowing certain parts of the country to reopen their economies, National Economic Council Director Larry Kudlow said Tuesday.
More than 598,000 COVID-19 cases have been confirmed in the U.S. with more than 25,000 deaths. Worldwide, more than 1.9 million cases have been recorded with more than 123,000 deaths since the outbreak began late last year, according to Johns Hopkins University data.

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TL;DR : Experts say : Get in your Pod.
 
the Illuminati Lizard People taking over Baskin Robbins and only having 31 flavors because of the hidden secrets contained in the Gematria?

Please don't fall down the BR rabbithole.

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What exactly is big icecream trying to hide from us? Why did they display 31 separately and prominently on their old logo yet they hide it in plain sight on their new one? Did they really think they could hide their links to Scottish Rite Masonry so easily? What is the lesson of the 31st degree? Why did people working in ice cream parlors used to wear aprons? You know who also wears aprons when "working" their degrees, right?
 
lol @ all of of you MORONS arguing with Doc instead of just ignoring her and moving on.

anyway, they're out of their minds if they think they can do this for years. we modern people are spoiled today in thinking we're not still subject to nature in some way and that shutting down everything is preferable to some people dying.

they seem to imply we'd have to do "social distancing" off and on for the forseeable future. it is scary that these officials think they are able to do this like a light switch
But muh minority of a minority that expects to smoke 4 packs a day for decades and thinks they wont face repercusions
WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE 2000 DEAD (even though we are millions in the us alone but shhhh, gotta keep the moral panic going brrrrrrrrr)
 
they seem to imply we'd have to do "social distancing" off and on for the forseeable future. it is scary that these officials think they are able to do this like a light switch

Once people leave this quarantine, they aren't going back, not ever again in their lives, and not without a fight, a fight they'll win, and I think those in charge know it. Which is why government is pushing to keep extending, once the genie of society is out of the bottle, we are NOT going back in unless the chance of death goes up to coin-flip probabilities...

Modern society is a machine, and it has to keep running. Not just to keep producing modern amenities, but to keep producing society itself. We cannot regress temporarily 500-some years, pretend we're all independent homesteaders, and just wait it out and then jump back ahead to the present. There won't BE a present at that point. Becasue we aren't peasants or homesteaders, we're 21st Century people.

We are too interdependent on each other for everything. Our free and blessed livlihoods are dependent on other people having theirs too. Other people losing jobs and losing their discretionary income directly affects me. Good? Bad? Irrelevant. We don't go to our own wells and tend to our own crops anymore, we live and die as a society now. And this is a college town, we were hit hard, all sports and classes canceled means I may not have a job to go back to for months even after the big Q is lifted such will be the downturn. Others are in the same boat. You can say it's selfish to value economy over human life, but my life has a quality too, you know? We literally cannot just idle the world and wait, it doesn't work economically or socially in the 21st Century. And beyond that, two years of house-arrest? That doesn't work even on a basic human level.

And people are slowly waking up to the sobering but real truth, we're just gonna have to eat the casualties as acceptable losses on this to keep all we've got, we tried our best and in good faith hoping this one-month time out would solve it, but it's just not going to play that way.... we weren't prepared, people can't keep locked up with no food and no money, and it's too late now to just hide from it, which is what our leaders want us to do.

When it comes down to it, I'd bet most people are willing to risk death if it means life, if you don't die, will be better. That's been the human condition for millenia, some lose all, all lose some, but we as a whole are better off. And safety with no life is no life at all. And staying trapped in a cage, no matter how comfy, is no way to live and it's not reasonable to expect an entire nation let alone the world to put up with it.

Hell, your chances of dying in a car crash on the way to work are better than from COVID, and nobody blinks at that.
 
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Maybe my tinfoil hat is on too tight but the primary motivation these days seems less about health and safety and more about Marxists hoping to reshape society. Use the virus to cripple the economy and then demand socialism as the solution. The numbers are shaping up where there will be some rollbacks starting as soon as next week. People don’t have the desire to be part of a Marxist experiment where we crash the economy because there will be fewer cow farts if people can’t afford meat. Fuck off with that bullshit.
 
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Is adopting the mask wearing habits of places like Japan and South Korea against the religion of these experts? Discouraging people from going to work and school while sick would also help. Perhaps paid sick leave?

Actually...
Yes.

There is one specific "expert" (he's a virologist) that I'm acquainted with, who has been telling everyone that masks don't do anything. Not a thing.
I asked him if that's the case, why does the medical profession need them so much and he literally said "It's different for them". I asked him why he thought Asians used them and he replied "air pollution".
He thinks that social distancing works better than everything. It's the most obtuse thing. I actually feel sorry for him, because instead of be open to new things, to new information, he's chosen the path of ignorance not inovation.

To have your life's work be nothing but "my opinion" makes him no better than a Vox journalist.

This guy is a professor, an "expert", someone quoted in the media on Corona Virus stuff. He has his cronies agreeing with him. It's something that seems entrenched in the academic field, this myopic view that only what I believe is true. It doesn't help anyone, it isn't useful, it's just a bunch of talking heads saying stuff.

As I keep saying Rhys McKinnon is an "expert" and a professor too and that guy willingly cut his cock and balls off and thinks he's a sexy biological woman now. Having time and money to get a Ph.D doesn't mean you're smart, evidently.
 
Social distancing is actualy not that hard. I think that's definitly do-able.
Wearing masks does help against sneezers and coofers so you're protected against their flem-spray.
Asians wear masks so not to contaminate other people. If they can do this, we can too.
If we wanna open everything up, we.. imho, will have to to some distancing and some more handwashing.
I don't wanna see a spike of deaths after america opens up again because when that happens, europe will see this and our leaders will get hysterical again and make us go full Italy.

Talking about Italy, our media here doesn't even talk about the ramifications of Italy's full lockdown. Very strange.
They are afraid that the truth comes out. That people in the south of italy, are in a big pickle. Some are starving.
 
lmao engineers and other STEMs really are morons. Their intelligence only goes in one place. If governments really try to extend these lockdowns and think they can print money to cover their costs then holy fucking shit welcome to World War 3. It'll start just like the previous ones did with dissatisfied and suffering people not being able to make a living because their governments are broke af. Then they start toppling those governments while civil servants squeal for "calm" and "order" while mothers are unable to feed their children and men are unable to provide for their families.

It's not the NEETs and Bohemians who rise up. Once the child rearing wealth generating middle class starts getting squeezed then they start looking at rope and lumbar and the plans for gallows start being drawn up. And you know, I'm willing to bet that the US is not the only place that the middle class has felt squeezed.

I think Trump and other populists know this which is why Donald is pushing for state governors to open their state economies back up. Even California is starting to sweat, I'm betting that their IOUs are racking up fast ever since they told the white middle class to stay home to ~flatten the curve.~

This is literally right out of Atlas Shrugged. The middle class that gave up and abandoned their work because there was no point in generating wealth for looters. Except now the looters are starting to feel uneasy because they're running out of shit to loot.
 
Is adopting the mask wearing habits of places like Japan and South Korea against the religion of these experts? Discouraging people from going to work and school while sick would also help. Perhaps paid sick leave?
That would be nice, but it wont get us closer to staying in our pods and eating the bugs
 
Wouldn't you say it is less so a matter of immigration than it is the state global travel? In normal times there are places where you can cross several borders with little delay in under a day.
When I was young, I flew to England. 1975. To do international travel, you first had to get a physical and a blood test for pathogens. A doctor had to sign something for you to be allowed to travel. It was the same when I went to Japan in 1981. I'm not sure when that changed. Maybe late 80s. I think we could see that happening again. Maybe people need to realize the world isn't their oyster, and care more about their own country and back yard.

You aren't going to get people to put off weddings, funerals, graduations, birthday parties, or all the celebrations that make life meaningful, for more than 1-2 months. Not unless we start seeing Bubonic Plague levels of bodies in the streets.

I must admit, I do feel kind of sad for people in that situation. My sister sent me a picture of her grand-daughter in her prom dress at the beginning of March. WE had a laugh about how she looked like a Disney Princess abortion, but from the girl's perspective, this has to be disastrous.
YES. And my math works, your batshit ramblings do not. You're conspiracy seeding in here to make your "deep state" power seem undefeatable. Guess what, you guys are too dumb to even make your bullshit work properly.
You're not scaring anyone, old hag.
That is some FINE, Dynastia level shitposting. Keep up the good work!
This coming from a man with Yaniv as an avatar. Hm. I think you're ugly and a stupid head. Childish enough for you and your bonehead response?

I'm done. Dumb fucks will keep on being dumb fucks.
Or maybe not.
Actually...
Yes.

There is one specific "expert" (he's a virologist) that I'm acquainted with, who has been telling everyone that masks don't do anything. Not a thing.
I asked him if that's the case, why does the medical profession need them so much and he literally said "It's different for them". I asked him why he thought Asians used them and he replied "air pollution".
He thinks that social distancing works better than everything. It's the most obtuse thing. I actually feel sorry for him, because instead of be open to new things, to new information, he's chosen the path of ignorance not inovation.

To have your life's work be nothing but "my opinion" makes him no better than a Vox journalist.

This guy is a professor, an "expert", someone quoted in the media on Corona Virus stuff. He has his cronies agreeing with him. It's something that seems entrenched in the academic field, this myopic view that only what I believe is true. It doesn't help anyone, it isn't useful, it's just a bunch of talking heads saying stuff.

As I keep saying Rhys McKinnon is an "expert" and a professor too and that guy willingly cut his cock and balls off and thinks he's a sexy biological woman now. Having time and money to get a Ph.D doesn't mean you're smart, evidently.

I wonder if that is because of the twin factors of "participation trophy" culture and affirmative action? How could you not feel like a fraud for spending your life devoted to something you didn't earn? How would you not become rigidly authoritarian -- always right -- in order to keep the fiction alive that you have accomplished something? Probably most of us have seen that mendacious authoritarian attitude from incompetent workmates who follow the letter of regulations since they don't understand either the job or the actual problem.
 
I must admit, I do feel kind of sad for people in that situation. My sister sent me a picture of her grand-daughter in her prom dress at the beginning of March. WE had a laugh about how she looked like a Disney Princess abortion, but from the girl's perspective, this has to be disastrous.

Proms being delayed are sad. Graduations are already cancelled, and in some cases that's not just the ceremony it's the piece of paper too.

More importantly, May through October is wedding season. In the US, 80% of weddings take place during that period. Cancelling them doesn't just disrupt life plans, but also has massive consequences for travel, catering, and hospitality services. And with the lockdown, you can't even go down to the courthouse to get married now. That is not sustainable for too long, it starts to fray society itself.
 
I'm not a betting man, but I'd bet money on there being a large spike in reported corona cases about a week or two after Black Friday. This following fall and winter are going to be interesting this year. Also regardless of whats done schools are going to become a breeding ground for it and I can see alot of older teachers retiring before they get it or dying half way through the school year. There might be a pretty large shortage of teachers these next few years.
 
I'm not a betting man, but I'd bet money on there being a large spike in reported corona cases about a week or two after Black Friday. This following fall and winter are going to be interesting this year. Also regardless of whats done schools are going to become a breeding ground for it and I can see alot of older teachers retiring before they get it or dying half way through the school year. There might be a pretty large shortage of teachers these next few years.

Schools are breeding grounds, but eventually, corona will just become the norm. Like the flu and other illnesses.

Anyone who thinks Freud was anything but a sex-obsessed hack, in this day and age, is an idiot.

Oh I dont necessarily follow Freudian sex philosophy. It's just that the other poster fit the criteria well .

For fuck's sake. Format this properly, you utter muppet.

*whiplash*

Ok, geez.....
 
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This entire thing is threatening to bring home to a lot of delusional "it can't happen here" people some bone-breaking economic realities. All these borderline exceptional parasites, propagating the "muh stocks" meme while they play comfy video games all day like they're on vacation, have no idea what the fuck they're talking about.

The threat of hyperinflation has always been really frightening if you know basic economics and a little bit of the relevant human history. And the shifting around and printing of this amount of funny money at once is absolutely terrifying, especially considering how high our national debt already is.

And the best part? Shit like seeds somehow aren't considered "essential" in megastores like Wal-Mart, so we can't buy them. Which is very strange and has me more than suspicious about how this is being handled. Isn't right now when we should be planting supplemental backyard gardens and learning to hunt (if you're so inclined) and in some way preparing for the absolute worst?
The seed thing, like all other retarded attempts to prevent Americans from buying non-grocery products at the big box stores that are open b/c of their grocery corner, is almost certainly governments caving to complaints/pressure from the various businesses that ONLY sell those items but aren't legally allowed to conduct business. A nursery chain complained to the Michigan governor, for example, to get that to happen there.
 
The seed thing, like all other exceptional attempts to prevent Americans from buying non-grocery products at the big box stores that are open b/c of their grocery corner, is almost certainly governments caving to complaints/pressure from the various businesses that ONLY sell those items but aren't legally allowed to conduct business. A nursery chain complained to the Michigan governor, for example, to get that to happen there.

You have to love all these smug cunts declaring this pandemic is proof libertarianism in general is insane, all while we can't get products we need because the fucking government is putting its fingers on the scales.
 
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