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Should be a wild four years.

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I wonder who they think that someone is? Harris?
Definitely not her as she fell off the Earth since November. I don't think they have anyone in mind. My guess is if they scream out into the void long enough some ultra progressive Napoleon will show himself and lead the Dems to victory by leading a coup on Trump and establishing Democracy 2.0.
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Bullet points negro, some of us got that tiktok attention span
I gocha bro
So let me get this straight…

Background on Jeffrey Epstein​

  • Jeffrey Epstein reportedly had no college degree but worked as a teacher before becoming a Wall Street financier
  • Had a close financial relationship with Lex Wexner (Victoria's Secret owner)
  • Acquired significant wealth and expensive properties through unclear means

Ghislaine Maxwell Connection​

  • Ghislaine Maxwell was Epstein's girlfriend and the daughter of publishing magnate Robert Maxwell
  • The post claims she was highly active on Reddit and had submarine piloting skills

Legal Issues​

  • First charged with sex crimes in 2005, received a controversial plea deal from prosecutor Alex Acosta
  • Served a reduced sentence with work release privileges
  • Arrested again in 2019 on sex trafficking charges

Death and Aftermath​

  • Died in jail while on suicide watch; officially ruled suicide though circumstances were questioned
  • FBI reportedly seized extensive evidence from his properties
  • Little of the collected evidence has been publicly released despite requests
  • Ghislaine Maxwell was later arrested and imprisoned

Alleged Connections​

  • Associated with prominent figures including politicians, scientists, and royalty
  • Maintained properties including a private island and ranch in New Mexico
  • Post claims these properties were used for illegal activities and scientific experiments
The background stuff isn't that weird. He worked at a private school so they can play fast and loose with degrees and credentials. Also, the school he worked at was very elite, so he could have networked and made some business connections with some of the parents who would have been very wealthy and powerful. Then use those connections to change careers.
 
So now we have people unironically calling for a coup in an effort to stop peace. These people are fucked in the head.
They really really wanna do their own Jan, 6th moment. Only they would probably do ACTUAL violence instead of just taking pictures.
I wonder who they think that someone is? Harris?
This reddit post with almost 1000 upvotes seems to be implying kamala is having top secret meetings because she…. went on vacation once?
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GROOMERS TRUST THE PLAN!
 
That’s just off the top of my head, how’d I do? What did I leave out?
You're forgetting that Maxwell's father was one of the 100 richest people on the planet, and more specially one of the top 5 richest people in the UK. In many ways hanging out with Jeff was a step down from the lifestyle she grew up with.

Back around the October 7th attack there was some brief discussion about whether the cartels could do the same thing to border states.
they 100% could, what you're forgetting is that they don't have to attack the border, they could very easily just pull a Vegas shooter deal and start attacking any concert venue.

think about the paris terror attacks, 130 people died because a couple of terrorists with guns took over a theater. At any time a handful of cartel dudes could go to any movie theater and pull the same shit, plenty of jews compared the venue hamas attacked to Coachella, which is in Indio, CA which is very rural meaning cartels could easily vanish after spending minutes shooting up the place.

The reason terrorist attacks don't happen is because very little happens to justify such attacks to the people with the means and need to carry out the attacks. Or at least thats how it was explained to me by an FBI guy who was doing a talk on this stuff back in my college days. Like when you think about gangs in the US vs Mexico or Columbia or Ireland or Paris, its obvious that there are plenty of people who justify it and can get the job done.

The reason bloods & crips were doing break-ins and stealing shoes in places like Compton instead of a mile north where the rich white folks lived is because the police would be very quick to stop it before it happens. They had the need and the justification but not the ability, thats Stop and frisk level policing. You can't get away with crime because the police are stopping you before you commit it.

In general there are tons of places that could easily be robbed or taken advantage of, especially in the US. But they weren't because people didn't have the need to do so or have the justification for it. Cigarettes and shoes and tons of other shit didn't have to be locked behind glass because society was very high trust because so few "bad actors" had the need and justification to fuck people over, so you could give people the ability all you wanted.

And if you look at the inner cities in the 80s, they made sure to lock as much shit up as possible to avoid letting gangs take advantage of them. South African whites live like they're in a zombie film because attacks are so common.

So yes cartels could easily do so, the problem of course is that the backlash would be too much, its even taught in schools down there. Pancho Villa tried fucking with the US and they made sure to kill as many of his troops as possible in retaliation, some engagements the US had with Villa's men resulted in 75 K/D ratios, and that was a century ago just using small arms. We have recon planes that can provide real time location information down to the squad level like a goddamn RTS, and any attempts to hide or flee would be futile. an entire brigade would make them vanish overnight. every cartel offense shows they're masters at small arms fire and they have tanks and choppers, but jets are a bit outside their wheelhouse. Iraq was taken over in a month with less casualties than you'd see on the south side of chicago. the consequences of fucking with the US in such a way would be extremely dire.

cartels are given a lot of leeway that would vanish very quickly if the US went hard on Mexico. Imagine if we pulled the sanctions and SWIFT bullshit on them, cartels would vanish in a week.
 
The background stuff isn't that weird. He worked at a private school so they can play fast and loose with degrees and credentials. Also, the school he worked at was very elite, so he could have networked and made some business connections with some of the parents who would have been very wealthy and powerful. Then use those connections to change careers.
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Orange man good or bad? Lets start there.
 
I should really just make a copy pasta because I’m tired of repeating this. This map from Google images is old but I think things are more or less the same excluding Syria - I don’t know where they stand.
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The countries in red are America’s allies. The USA wants them in control of the ME. The green countries by supporting Iran oppose US interests.

It’s a big game of Civilization. America wants an economic victory or military if necessary. This will always just be an important area of the world for its resources.
Who the fuck decided to mark a bunch of countries in a blueish color on that map? Give them to the Syrians and tell them you are handing them the Pope.
 
I love how the narrative is pivoting back to Trump stealing the election.

Basically the timeline is:

2016 - Russia hacked our election -> 2020 - Most Safe And Secure Election Ever™ -> 2024 - Most Safe And Secu..(oh shit, she fucking lost because she sucks and no one likes her?) Russia hacked our election

How do these people square this shit away in their heads? It's supposed to be the redneck living in an off-grid shack in the desert coming up with this wacky conspiracy shite, not some college educated urban "elite".
 
Bullet points negro, some of us got that tiktok attention span
skill issue

think about the paris terror attacks, 130 people died because a couple of terrorists with guns took over a theater. At any time a handful of cartel dudes could go to any movie theater and pull the same shit, plenty of jews compared the venue hamas attacked to Coachella, which is in Indio, CA which is very rural meaning cartels could easily vanish after spending minutes shooting up the place.
While it would be an incalculable tragedy, it would serve as an excellent casus belli to raze the cartels to the ground and set fire to the splinters. Special Forces raid teams killing entire compounds, Reaper drones blowing up everyone higher up than a small manager in the cartels, spooks shredding any cartel collaborators in the mexican government, the works.
 
It’s no wonder Trump wants this wrapped up and off his desk, it should have been dealt with a decade ago when Russia annexed Crimea. Now they want to pretend it is all Trump’s fault because it’s a no win scenario.

Edit: One of the guys laughing in that video cried for Ukraine after the White House meltdown.
This is why I'm perfectly fine with Russia steamrolling and murdering millions of these faggots. It's never going to happen. But I hope it does. They fully deserve it for their sheer hubris. I only hope they spare Dr. Otterly. The rest can eat lead.
 
think about the paris terror attacks, 130 people died because a couple of terrorists with guns took over a theater. At any time a handful of cartel dudes could go to any movie theater and pull the same shit, plenty of jews compared the venue hamas attacked to Coachella, which is in Indio, CA which is very rural meaning cartels could easily vanish after spending minutes shooting up the place.
The issue with the Jewish Venue was that it was right next to the wall so it was easy for them to attack and scamper back into Gaza with hostages. Coachella is a few hours drive from the boarder, which is plenty of time for the US police/military to lock down the roads and the border. Even if they go off road they will have planes scanning the desert for any off road convoys which would stick out like a sore thumb.

If the cartels are going to do something bold like that they either need to be literally next to the boarder for a quick getaway or go in knowing it is a one way trip.

cartels are given a lot of leeway that would vanish very quickly if the US went hard on Mexico. Imagine if we pulled the sanctions and SWIFT bullshit on them, cartels would vanish in a week.
Vanish or simply laying low? The US is schizophrenic and priorities shift with every admins. The cartels could quiet down and focus on their more "legit" business ventures until the next admin gets in and their focus is elsewhere.
 
The issue with the Jewish Venue was that it was right next to the wall so it was easy for them to attack and scamper back into Gaza with hostages. Coachella is a few hours drive from the boarder, which is plenty of time for the US police/military to lock down the roads and the border. Even if they go off road they will have planes scanning the desert for any off road convoys which would stick out like a sore thumb.

If the cartels are going to do something bold like that they either need to be literally next to the boarder for a quick getaway or go in knowing it is a one way trip.
what you're forgetting is that unlike Israel we have millions of theses fucks everywhere, Indio is a great example because the inland empire is about 75% Spic and chances are the cartel members could just disappear to some gang hideout they've had for half a century.

It reminds me a lot of the San Bernadino islamic shootings, it took way longer than it took to find the fucks because of how hard it was to find the exact brown people they were looking for. and that involved government employees and the cops already having footage and other shit that could help catch them.,
 
As for Trump being hated for his efforts to have peace between Russia and Ukraine, it's not that surprising in today's political climate where people overlook the bigger picture: Trump trying to appeal to both sides to work something out. When Zelensky decided to have his tantrum, Trump naturally chose to appeal to Putin next. As discussed before, too many people view life in absolutes. Liberals are going to hate Trump simply because he's not liberal and they refuse to acknowledge the possibility he might favor or adopt policies that directly benefit them. They're unwilling and/or unable to accept the fact that pretty much every politician at every level is going to make decisions that are both likeable and unlikable while they are in office. The minute someone from the wrong party acts in a perceived wrong way, there is nothing but hate and vitriol in response. Someone earlier in the thread posted about their experience where a neutral "Can't we all just get along?" post led to screeching, blocks, and/or bans. Sadly, this has become the norm in all aspects of life where politics is permeating everything. I saw the same thing happen when Trump was elected the first time and nothing has changed since then.

It's because they think they live in a Star Wars movie. They don't see young men dying by the tens of thousands for the petty political ambitions of old men. They see Luke Skywalker fighting Darth Vader, and you don't negotiate with Darth Vader. You use the Force.

So with all this coming out about how insanely corrupt the Biden administration actually was, can't Trump authorize the DOJ or whoever to re-examine 2020 with fresh eyes and no obstructions? And if they find that the election was stolen, wtf even happens then? Biden hangs for high treason?

You could in theory jail or fine many of the people involved. The reason they do it is nobody gets punished.
 
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It's because they think they live in a Star Wars movie. They don't see young men dying by the tens of thousands for the petty political ambitions of old man. They see Luke Skywalker fighting Darth Vader, and you don't negotiate with Darth Vader. You use the Force.
Pretty much. For those years schools dedicate to WW2, a lot of these people have either forgotten the grisly reality, were never taught about them, or didn't even pay attention. Many of them genuinely think it's like their heckin' Star Wars and Steven Universe. No losing limbs, no gangrene, no dying of disease or exposure. No charging into gunfire just to get shot in the stomach and die. No seeing the mangled bodies of your comrades all around you as you wonder if the war would even end.

If they do realize, they don't think it would be them.
 
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