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They should really get prison time. The problem is that it’s not “just” Obama. It’s the permanent state. The actual swamp. The “intelligence community” that really runs the nation and ensures that policy stays the same no matter who is president.

Pretty sure they’d try to kill Trump if he tried to take them down seriously.

(Then again. He’s an old man. How much more time does he have? A decade? Trying to get justice for a grave injustice done to him may just be worth it.)

Back in the 70ies when congress still had balls, they did such a good attempt at neutering the intelligence swamp that it got broken and stayed that way for like a decade. It’s time for a clean sweep again.

Per capita, America has more people working in the “intelligence community” than Russia, Nazi Germany or even DDR.
Three years ago, Gehenna, based on his extensive hands-on-knowledge, said that Judges would die before Chevron was overturned.

Chevron got overturned. Roe got overturned.

Nothing is impossible when everything is retarded. There's hope in that, even if that hope, too, is also retarded.
 
DNI Tulsi Gabbard just officially accused Obama of treason so this should be a fun weekend.

Apparently Obama directed the DOJ/whatever to manufacture Russiagate and she has reciepts.


"Justice is coming."
Nobody will see a second of jail time out of this. If Trump was too much of a coward to lock up Hillary Clinton, there's no way he will lock up Obama. Bet on it.
 
Nobody will see a second of jail time out of this. If Trump was too much of a coward to lock up Hillary Clinton, there's no way he will lock up Obama. Bet on it.
Considering how every single one of your recent idiotic posts has quickly been proven wrong, wrong, wrong I can only surmise Barry O will soon be executed live on TV. I'm only surprised that you're not twisting the news to predict an AOC presidency, total Rep defeat in 2026, the sky falling, etc.
 
Nobody will see a second of jail time out of this. If Trump was too much of a coward to lock up Hillary Clinton, there's no way he will lock up Obama. Bet on it.
The bigger question is why would he want to. Obama's come a long way from when the DNC considered him Chicago Christ. The wall of silence he had erected around his presidency to assure him that his shit did not, in fact, stink has long since fallen to time, and lacking any other candidate with genuine charisma, the DNC has gone to tap from his well over and over and over again, utterly sucking dry what little credibility and likeability he once had.

Out in the open using him unintentionally as an advertisement for the Repubs is the perfect spot for him.

His legacy is now completely obliterated, and there's honestly few presidents who deserve that more. I know Gehenna would have loved this outcome; Obama's entire raison d'etre was to come across as the man who fixed everything for the Dems, but his presidency ultimately turned into the harbinger of the end times for the establishment Democrats, something I doubt anyone would have foreseen back when he got in: It was his absolutely bodying Hillary in the primaries that led to Hillary's supporterbase throwing a shitfit and threatening to broker the convention if she wasn't given concessions; they gave her the DNC and she turned it into her own personal agency so she would never get Obama'd again, only to get absolutely scorched by the crazy orange diamond in 2016. The current leadership crisis the dems have is almost entirely due to the uber-progressives Hillary brought in to kick out the DNC regs that wouldn't kiss her ass, which in turn opened the gates for the DSA types to destroy their numbers.

Now, Obama's all they got, and he's gettin' up in his years. I would almost feel bad for the guy, but then I remember getting dicked by the ACA for six or seven years.
 
Considering how every single one of your recent idiotic posts has quickly been proven wrong, wrong, wrong I can only surmise Barry O will soon be executed live on TV. I'm only surprised that you're not twisting the news to predict an AOC presidency, total Rep defeat in 2026, the sky falling, etc.
He's the reverse oracle. The opposite of what he says will happen.
Petition to add "Blessed reverse oracle" to Fatpack's profile.
 
Ari Ben-Menashe, a known liar who has been disproven multiple times
You’re asking us to accept that ben-Menashe’s being ‘discredited’ and ‘labelled a liar’ is purely organic and not at all a damage control exercise by Israeli Intelligence.
It’s entirely possible you’re right, and also entirely plausible that he’s telling the truth.
 
Treason requires a trial. It is a old charge baked into the Constitution itself. It's rarely used. The trial would last years
Not if they do a blood test on big mike and determine he's a man and as such Obama broke the law by marrying a man and as such all his actions are null and void and all niggers are holocausted and the clouds over America start raining burgers and apple pie.
 
You’re asking us to accept that ben-Menashe’s being ‘discredited’ and ‘labelled a liar’ is purely organic and not at all a damage control exercise by Israeli Intelligence.
It’s entirely possible you’re right, and also entirely plausible that he’s telling the truth.

Just one example

Ben-Menashe claims to have seen George Bush enter a Paris hotel room in October 1980 for a secret meeting with representatives of the Iranian government-an allegation which, if true, would constitute prima facie evidence that the Reagan-Bush presidential campaign conspired to prevent the release of 52 U.S. hostages until after the 1980 election.
As usual, Ben-Menashe paints a vivid, detailed picture of secret dealings at the highest levels. But his account of this alleged event is marred by inconsistencies, and it is flatly contradicted by the U.S. Secret Service's contemporaneous logs of candidate Bush's whereabouts on the days in question. As Ben-Menashe tells it, he was a member of a secret Israeli advance team that, in conjunction with the French government, arranged a crucial meeting between Bush and the Iranians. He says he and others on the Israeli team stayed at the Paris Hilton, and that they passed the time before the meeting by chumming around Paris with various members of the Iranian delegation.

About 11 a.m. on Sunday, Oct. 19, or Monday, Oct. 20, Ben-Menashe says, the Ayatollah Mehdi Karrubi and his bodyguards appeared at a room on an upper floor of the Hotel Ritz where the Israelis and French were waiting. Two minutes later, he claims, George Bush and William Casey arrived at the same room. Their meeting, behind closed doors, lasted about 90 minutes, he says, and Ben-Menashe said he was told that it established a tacit understanding between the Iranians and the Reagan-Bush campaign. The terms, he says, were that the United States would provide money and arms to Iran if the hostage release was delayed until after Reagan won the 1980 election and took office.

At best, Ben-Menashe's story is flawed. For one thing, Segev says Ben-Menashe repeatedly and emphatically said that Bush and Casey met the Iranians at the Hotel George V, not the Ritz. Ben-Menashe also insisted to NEWSWEEK that he was sure about the dates-Oct. 19 and 20-because the meeting took place the day before the Jewish festival of Sukkot. But Sukkot is a movable feast-and in 1980, it fell on Sept. 25, almost a month before Ben-Menashe says he saw Bush in Paris.

Then there is the evidence provided by Secret Service logs. As a candidate for vice president, George Bush in October 1980 was subject to unrelenting Secret Service protection: there were no deviations and no exceptions. The Secret Service's records show that Bush returned to Washington at 9:25 p.m. on Oct. 18 after a campaign swing in New Jersey and Pennsylvania. On Oct. 19, the same logs show, he went to the Chevy Chase country club during the day and gave a speech before the Zionist Organization of America at the Capital Hilton that same night. He left the Hilton at 9:35 p.m. and was driven to his home. The next day, Oct. 20, candidate Bush was back on the campaign trail in New Haven, Conn. If the Secret Service records are accurate, it was impossible for Bush to have been in Paris on either day.

Viktor Chebrikov is a well-known figure in the world of international espionage--the former head, now retired, of the KGB. Ben-Menashe says he and Chebrikov were old adversaries in Iran, and that Chebrikov had agreed to write a foreword for a book Ben-Menashe plans to write about the international-arms trade. Contacted by NEWSWEEK, Chebrikov said he is "not writing anything" and had never heard of Ben-Menashe

Guy is unreliable
 
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