US US port strike by 45,000 dockworkers is all but certain to begin at midnight - A Rather Unique October Surprise

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FILE - Shipping containers are stacked in the Port of New York and New Jersey in Elizabeth, N.J., May 20, 2021. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig, File)

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FILE - In this photo provided by the Georgia Ports Authority, Griff Lynch, President and CEO of the Georgia Ports Authority, provides an update on the Port of Savannah’s progress and future trajectory to 1,200 leaders from the maritime, supply chain, business and political sectors Thursday, Oct. 12, 2023, during the annual State of the Port event in Savannah, Ga. (Stephen B. Morton/Georgia Ports Authority via AP, File)

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FILE - Containers are moved at the Port of New York and New Jersey in Elizabeth, N.J., on June 30, 2021. (AP Photo/Seth Wenig, File)

Updated 12:13 PM GMT-5, September 30, 2024
NEW YORK (AP) — The union representing U.S. dockworkers signaled that 45,000 members will walk off the job at midnight, kicking off a massive strike likely to shut down ports across the East and Gulf coasts.
The coming work stoppage threatens to significantly snarl the nation’s supply chain, potentially leading to higher prices and delays for households and businesses if it drags on for weeks. That’s because the strike by members of the International Longshoremen’s Association could cause 36 ports — which handle roughly half of the goods shipped into and out of the U.S. — to shutter operations.
ILA confirmed over the weekend that its members would hit the picket lines at 12:01 a.m. Tuesday. In a Monday update, the union continued to blame the United States Maritime Alliance, which represents the ports, for continuing to “to block the path” towards an agreement before the contract deadline.

“The Ocean Carriers represented by USMX want to enjoy rich billion-dollar profits that they are making in 2024, while they offer ILA Longshore Workers an unacceptable wage package that we reject,” ILA said in a prepared statement. “ILA longshore workers deserve to be compensated for the important work they do keeping American commerce moving and growing.”

ILA also accused the shippers of “killing their customers” with sizeable price increases for full containers over recent weeks. The union said that this will result increased costs for American consumers.

The Associated Press reached out to a USMX spokesperson for comment.
If drawn out, the strike would led would force businesses to pay shippers for delays and cause some goods to arrive late for peak holiday shopping season — potentially impacting delivery of anything from toys or artificial Christmas trees, to cars, coffee and vegetables. Americans could also face higher prices as retailers feel the supply squeeze.

ILA members are demanding higher wages and a total ban on the automation of cranes, gates and container-moving trucks used in the loading or unloading of freight.
The coming strike by the ILA workers will be the first by the union since 1977.
If a strike were deemed a danger to U.S. economic health, President Joe Biden could, under the 1947 Taft-Hartley Act, seek a court order for an 80-day cooling-off period. This would suspend the strike.
All eyes are on what, if any, action the adminstration might take — particularly just weeks ahead of a tight presidential election. But Biden has signaled that he will not exercise this power.
During an exchange with reporters on Sunday, Biden said “no” when asked if he planned to intervene in the potential work stoppage.

“Because it’s collective bargaining, I don’t believe in Taft-Hartley,” Biden said referring to a 1947 law that allows the president to intervene in labor disputes that threaten the nation’s health or safety.

 

[emosimp7]

Fine, if you don't want workable solutions nationwide to foster a better overall environment, I'd fire them all and bring in the scabs; and these assholes start getting pissy like they did with the garbage man, the National Guard will be on site to fucking shoot and arrest them. I'd bust the unions and clear them out or arrest them. There's also the Heavy Equipment operator part of the military, willing to bet got plenty of forklift, crane, and other certified people there. But that aside, I had to talk about "a nationwide labor reform movement," because your illiterate ass brought up H1-B, Haitians, and other foreigners; who are not doing longshoreman jobs. You present a problem, then you fail to understand when I fucking address it head on. How fucking stupid are you, were you born like this or did your father "uncle" beat you with a Cerveza bottle too many times?

Realistically speaking, this all came down to either "vote harder" or "go on strike". They didn't want to give an inch to automation because they feared (justifiably it seems) that they would have 10 miles taken and it would be the prelude to them being fired. Your whole plan hinged on you being dictator. It's like someone asked you "what would you do if you were king of America".

And when you stop doing your job, I'll find a solution to the no work problem. The 77% and 50% raise weren't apparently good enough, so I'll find a new solution. Easy to argue about them doing their duties, when the whole point of a strike is they stop doing them. You'd also be surprised how many people show up work drunk or otherwise inebriated, do dangerous/illegal shit, and get away with it due to union protection. If they're gonna protect retards doing retarded and criminal shit, I'll find other people who won't too, fuck the union

Yes, because these stupid, dangerous and criminally inclined people not going to work for a week just threatened our economy. Because they were useless in their position.

Blink twice if you're not purposely being this stupid. Because the union standard is not up to others standards, they're behind on automation or other advancements, meaning work is done slower, takes more manhours, and other things where time is of the essence.

If it's this important that they do their job and they're this organized, then they should get what they want and keep their 60 hour a week jobs.

Think of all the horse trainers, whip makers, and carriage crafters the automobile put out of business. Just think of them, and how bad it was that they lost their jobs to some fucking internal combustion engine; I'd ask if you'd want to put up with an internal combustion engine, and manual transmission, or a differential, but I doubt you do. I know why you can't think of them, because you're too fucking retarded to understand what a comparison, analogy, parable, or cause and effect are.

So, you're saying the union saw a threat to their livelihoods on that level and you want them to nobly sacrifice their jobs for the sake of progress?

 

[anti SJW]

Garbage men are more important than faggots who think playing crane games IRL deserve 90 and hour.

As someone who works in sanitation, I can confirm.

 

[LeChampion1992]

Why? Europe and east asia are leading in that field, not China.

China is already implementing automation to deal with its aging workforce. The problem is the US implementing automation would mean the company's that handles us shipping would be China, amd other potential adversaries.
I get the conservative impulse to say Fuck the unions but the ILA for once is right.
Also geopolitics change today's allies might be tomorrow's future adversaries.
Sure how long will Germany be in a position of subservience?

 

[Kheapathic]

Your whole plan hinged on you being dictator. It's like someone asked you "what would you do if you were king of America".

Average IQ Brazilian asks a question, doesn't understand why he gets the answer he does.

If it's this important that they do their job and they're this organized, then they should get what they want and keep their 60 hour a week jobs.

The retards, lazies, and idiots will fall to the side; the competent will rise. There's a better way to do it.

If it's this important that they do their job and they're this organized, then they should get what they want and keep their 60 hour a week jobs.

And they can be replaced; truck driving, forklifting, and craning isn't that high of a technical job.

So, you're saying the union saw a threat to their livelihoods on that level and you want them to nobly sacrifice their jobs for the sake of progress?

God damn, getting your brain to fucking engage is like pulling weeds. They don't have to be nobly sacrificed; they can adapt or go kicking and screaming.

 

[TJT]

how does this work in a criminal matter? union law firm sued the prosecutor?

Union just hassled the company about some other unrelated shit to waste their time in court until they dropped the topic. Kind of hard to communicate how much the union can fuck with you on the port by deliberately wasting your time. This was a smaller company (domestic US only, not a billion dollar gigacorp) and couldn't have their boats and cargo tied up for months long "safety inspections" while other companies stuff kept moving.

@emosimp7 that Union boss is more of a mob boss caricature than Tony Soprano. You conflating non-unionized labor and being against government enforced immigration as being exactly the same is complete bullshit and false equivalence faggotry.

Yes, this union boss is demanding more money for the explicit retardation of progress for his own personal gain. Unions being full of losers and the policy of seemingly all unions to protect their laziest most garbage members no matter how useless they are aside. These assholes act like being replaced by technology or impacted by external factors are somehow unique to them.

Companies go bankrupt, new technologies change industries, workforces get laid off, etc ALL THE TIME. This guy makes the same stupid arguments that government workers do that "you can't just get rid of a government workforce" of do nothing bureaucrats.

 

[WelperHelper99]

The Pool is now OPEN

National Guard has been deployed, they will operate the ports if the unions refuse. Flordia man wins again.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

The Pool is now OPEN
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National Guard has been deployed, they will operate the ports if the unions refuse. Flordia man wins again.

Actually, I hope the Nasty Girls do just straight up operate the ports. That'll tell us the value of the dockworkers one way or the other REEEEEEEAL quick.

 

[emosimp7]

Average IQ Brazilian asks a question, doesn't understand why he gets the answer he does.

Maybe I should have been more specific. How would you handle it, if you were the Union leader?

The retards, lazies, and idiots will fall to the side; the competent will rise. There's a better way to do it.

If these people are as lazy, retarded and idiotic as you say they are, then why are they able to hold the ports hostage? If these workers are this important, then why would you, in this current environment, chance them being replaced by what are likely to be illegal immigrants and buggy software instead of just letting them keep their work environment?

God damn, getting your brain to fucking engage is like pulling weeds. They don't have to be nobly sacrificed; they can adapt or go kicking and screaming.

So, you won't even say it's actually for the good of anything. You just want them to let themselves be fucked over.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Actually, I hope the Nasty Girls do just straight up operate the ports. That'll tell us the value of the dockworkers one way or the other REEEEEEEAL quick.

The Unions in one stroke would lose so much bargining power if people with minimal training can do their jobs more or less the same. Its so fucking based.

 

[Kheapathic]

Maybe I should have been more specific. How would you handle it, if you were the Union leader?

Take the 77% raise with a timeline to automate, retire old heads by buyout if necessary, get training and placements for the younger guys. It doesn't have to be a retarded all or nothing.

If these people are as lazy, retarded and idiotic as you say they are, then why are they able to hold the ports hostage?

Because strong-arming people is seen as bad; and no one likes the idea if people losing their jobs. If you knew a thing about certain union jobs, you'd know they're nepotistic and insular. They got a good position and hang onto it via nepotism and bullshit. If the public knew how easy trucks, lifts, and cranes are; they'd be pissed over this shit.

If these workers are this important, then why would you, in this current environment, chance them being replaced by what are likely to be illegal immigrants and buggy software instead of just letting them keep their work environment?

As said above, I'd negotiate for training and placements for my people. As well as some sort of federal protection; because as stated earlier and you probably ignored, other nations see their ports as national defense (as they should). On top of the software and SCADA shit to not be from overseas or staffed or financed by them either.

So, you won't even say it's actually for the good of anything. You just want them to let themselves be fucked over.

I already said progress, to not fall behind, to be more efficient; but you're too much of an empty headed faggot, you get distracted by thoughts of dicks and HIV to hold a conversation.

People abandoned horses for cars because they were faster and cheaper. Retads like you look at the horse people and instead of even wondering if you can teach the carpenter how to bend metal or work a CNC; you wag your finger at everyone else for wanting a better method of transportation.

But you're too fucking stupid to figure that out. You're a soulless fucking husk pretending to be a human. There's nothing inside your head; just an endless string of "why," even as I answer your questions. I'd tell you to hold your head underwater, but I know you'd fuck that up.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Actually, I hope the Nasty Girls do just straight up operate the ports. That'll tell us the value of the dockworkers one way or the other REEEEEEEAL quick.

I am interested as well.

I know with grain cargo that you can't just dump the grain in and send the vessel on its way.

But I want to see how much this applies to containerized cargo. Software probably exists to plan all this out but the NG will still have to learn the new system.

This will be fun to watch.

 

[The best and greatest]

The Pool is now OPEN
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National Guard has been deployed, they will operate the ports if the unions refuse. Flordia man wins again.

The game is rigged against you and the house always wins. RIP

 

[emosimp7]

Take the 77% raise with a timeline to automate, retire old heads by buyout if necessary, get training and placements for the younger guys. It doesn't have to be a retarded all or nothing.

So, sell out and give away an inch so they can take a mile. Genius.

As said above, I'd negotiate for training and placements for my people. As well as some sort of federal protection; because as stated earlier and you probably ignored, other nations see their ports as national defense (as they should). On top of the software and SCADA shit to not be from overseas or staffed or financed by them either

You want to put American workers in the mercy of the feds? Even worse, you're choosing the Biden administration to do it in?

I already said progress, to not fall behind, to be more efficient; but you're too much of an empty headed faggot, you get distracted by thoughts of dicks and HIV to hold a conversation.

Progress for whom? You regale me with your fetish for cars and replacing horses at every turn while chanting progress. But who is this progress going to serve? The shipping magnates are billionaires. The average American hates it when someone has an easier life than them. The dreamers like you cheer when someone goes out of a job and they themselves don't even get money out of it, necessarily. But the dockworkers should just give up a cushy job for you.

 

[WelperHelper99]

The game is rigged against you and the house always wins. RIP

The lesson we learned today is don't fuck with florida man's boats and ports. He gets mad when you do that.

 

[Kheapathic]

So, sell out and give away an inch so they can take a mile. Genius.

If the conex box didn't require a crane or lift, they'd still be doing everything by hand you fucking reprobate.

You want to put American workers in the mercy of the feds? Even worse, you're choosing the Biden administration to do it in?

If you don't think a nation's ports are strategic, you should go suck-start a shotgun. I got plenty of problems with the feds; but seeing how you create another problem when I answer a question, I can only assume you don't want an answer, you want to be a nigger.

Progress for whom? You regale me with your fetish for cars and replacing horses at every turn while chanting progress. But who is this progress going to serve? The shipping magnates are billionaires. The average American hates it when someone has an easier life than them. The dreamers like you cheer when someone goes out of a job and they themselves don't even get money out of it, necessarily. But the dockworkers should just give up a cushy job for you.

I use the tale as it should be something easy to understand, but I am clearly wrong as you miss the point entirely. You said you don't care if homeboy is rich, don't start using billionaires as a fucking scapegoat, you shouldn't care about them either. In fact you should be happy for them, they have all that money and prestige; per your argument for the union, why should they give that up.

Kill yourself faggot.

 

[Heed Not]

Sure how long will Germany be in a position of subservience?

It sounds like the solution would just be to nationalize the ports then, but I'm guessing that's politically impossible for reasons that leave the unions' only option as "lose eventually" because the feds will either forcibly bust the strike or permit automation to happen in time regardless.

 

[LaxerBRO]

Port Strike Resolved

Source

Local ILA chapter says port strike is over after days on picket lines

CHARLESTON, S.C. (WCIV) —
Local International Longshoremen's Association workers claim the port strike is over, Kenneth Riley with Local 1422 said to News 4.

Riley, the international vice president of the ILA and ILA Local 1422 member, claimed the dockworkers got the automation language and significant pay raises included in the contract.

The full contract details weren't immediately made available to News 4.

This story will be updated with more information

 

[emosimp7]

If the conex box didn't require a crane or lift, they'd still be doing everything by hand you fucking reprobate.


If you don't think a nation's ports are strategic, you should go suck-start a shotgun. I got plenty of problems with the feds; but seeing how you create another problem when I answer a question, I can only assume you don't want an answer, you want to be a nigger.


I use the tale as it should be something easy to understand, but I am clearly wrong as you miss the point entirely. You said you don't care if homeboy is rich, don't start using billionaires as a fucking scapegoat, you shouldn't care about them either. In fact you should be happy for them, they have all that money and prestige; per your argument for the union, why should they give that up.

Kill yourself faggot.

Dude, you're just retarded,

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

It looks like the strike has ended


ILA strike is over, 90-day contract in place

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By WTOC Staff

Published: Oct. 3, 2024 at 5:33 PM GMT-5|Updated: 10 minutes ago

SAVANNAH, Ga. (WTOC) - After three days of striking, a contract extension has been agreed to by the International Longshoremen Association, according to officials with the Georgia Ports and Savannah area ILA members.



ILA members were seen breaking down their picket line outside the Port of Savannah Thursday evening. Officials with Georgia Ports said a 90-day extension has been agreed to and the ports will be open Friday. Currently, there are 13 ships waiting to enter the port and four more arriving in the next few days from the Panama Canal, according to port officials.



A local member of the ILA said they spoke with national union members and confirmed the extension. Few details have been released. ILA members heard the pay side of the negotiations may have been settled with what amounts to a 61% increase in pay. Other portions of the negotiations, local ILA members said, were still being worked out..



WTOC will have more on this story as it develops

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ABC coverage

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Dockworkers strike suspended, the union says

Tens of thousands of U.S. dockworkers went on strike on Tuesday.

ByMax Zahn and Meredith Deliso

October 3, 2024, 5:37 PM

A historic United States port strike has been suspended, according to the International Longshoremen’s Association and the U.S. Maritime Alliance.



A tentative agreement was reached "on wages" and extending "the Master Contract until January 15, 2025 to return to the bargaining table to negotiate all other outstanding issues," the ILA and USMX said in a joint statement Thursday evening.



"Effective immediately, all current job actions will cease and all work covered by the Master Contract will resume," the statement read.



Tens of thousands of U.S. dockworkers had walked off the job early Tuesday morning, clogging dozens of ports along the East and Gulf coasts.



ILA members started to set up picket lines at shipping ports up and down the Atlantic and Gulf coasts as of 12:01 a.m. Tuesday in the union's first coastwide strike in nearly 50 years.



The ILA, the union representing 50,000 East Coast and Gulf Coast dockworkers under the contract at issue, was seeking higher wages and a ban on the use of some automated equipment.



"ILA longshore workers deserve to be compensated for the important work they do keeping American commerce moving and growing," the ILA told ABC News in a statement on Monday. "Meanwhile, ILA dedicated longshore workers continue to be crippled by inflation due to USMX's unfair wage packages."



Following the strike, President Joe Biden called for a fair offer from the USMX an organization bargaining on behalf of the dockworkers' employers. In a statement released on Tuesday, Biden emphasized the strong profits enjoyed by shipping firms in recent years, as well as the sacrifices made by dockworkers during the COVID-19 pandemic.

Striking workers at the Red Hook Container Terminal in Brooklyn gather after members of the International Longshoremen's Association, or ILA, began walking off the job, Oct. 2, 2024, in Brooklyn, New York.

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Amid the strike, USMX said Wednesday it remained "committed to bargaining in good faith to address the ILA's demands and USMX's concerns."



A prolonged work stoppage of several weeks or months could have rekindled inflation for some goods and triggered layoffs at manufacturers as raw materials dried up, experts said.



In 2002, a strike among workers at West Coast ports lasted 11 days before then-President George W. Bush invoked the Taft-Hartley Act and ended the standoff.

 

[Kheapathic]

Dude, you're just retarded,

No, answer the fucking question. You say you don't care that the union boss is a millionaire and the union should protect their own; especially with your claim that I want them to suffer. So the question is; why should the billionaire magnates lose more money to low IQ alcoholics who beat their wives and talk with a retarded East Coast jive. Why should the billionaires lose out?

 

[Fatsuit Shinji]

Yeah, I mean... fuck, why not clean the house right now? Seems like the best time to do it. Won't get a better opportunity.

Have to clean out D.C. and every state capital first of every swamp inhabitant.

 

[TJT]

Mind you this whole thing is much different than a company union going on strike. Or even a single port. This is deliberately tanking every company, at every level, by stopping trade at gunpoint and calling it righteous.

 

[anti SJW]

Strike suspended

Dockworkers' union to suspend strike until Jan. 15 to allow time to negotiate new contract.​

The union representing 45,000 striking U.S. dockworkers at East and Gulf coast ports has reached a deal to suspend a three-day strike until Jan. 15 to provide time to negotiate a new contract.

The union, the International Longshoremen’s Association, is to resume working immediately. The temporary end to the strike came after the union and the U.S. Maritime Alliance, which represents ports and shipping companies, reached a tentative agreement on wages, the union and ports said in a joint statement Thursday night.

A person briefed on the agreement said the ports sweetened their wage offer from about 50% over six years to 62%. The person didn’t want to be identified because the agreement is tentative. Any wage increase would have to be approved by union members as part of the ratification of a final contract.

 

[Party Hat Wurmple]

They don't need to automate everything. 50% of longshoremen at any container port spend all day moving container chassis around with terminal tractors. That's a low skill job that very easy to replace with automated container movers. This would also do the thing the ILA leadership truly fears, cut membership drastically.

They'll find more bullshit jobs for people to do. It's what the ILA is best at. You're talking about some people who get 90k per year to chuck small pieces of scrap metal back into a trailer if it falls out when being lowered by a crane. The ILA will find a job where a guys job is literally just to push a button if it glows red if they really wanted to.

 

[Quijibo69]

The Pool is now OPEN
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National Guard has been deployed, they will operate the ports if the unions refuse. Flordia man wins again.

Florida is too Based for your feelings.

 

[marvlouslie]

What a selfish, fucking asshole.

 

[GunCar Gary]

Here's a good explanation of that point that many here are missing. From Conservative Treehouse:

it seems like a better solution is to have ports automated by software and hardware produced in america and kicking redundant port jobs to the curb, instead of what we're going to get which is ports still owned by foreign countries and overpaid truck drivers holding america hostage

 

[CharlesBarkley]

it seems like a better solution is to have ports automated by software and hardware produced in america and kicking redundant port jobs to the curb, instead of what we're going to get which is ports still owned by foreign countries and overpaid truck drivers holding america hostage

Yeah, I mean... fuck, why not clean the house right now? Seems like the best time to do it. Won't get a better opportunity.