ValiDate - an upcoming (and unsurprisingly racist) visual novel made by SJW's, for SJW's. Currently MIA.

[Dysnomia]

The only noteworthy games ever completed in the vein of a visual novel with that structure were Telltale's output and the Life is Strange series. I think there might have been one more game I've forgotten, something to do with detectives? But don't quote me on that.

Telltale is underwater and struggling for air right now while Life is Strange left the episodic nature of its releases with its lately entry because unless you're making something people give a shit about (i.e. Undertale and Deltarune seems to have skirted around this with its massive fan base - which came from a finished product, mind), people stop caring after a while.

The difference here is: Telltale and DONTNOD more or less released shit on schedule and even their lesser releases will be miles ahead of the quality of ValiDate, primarily due to resources available (and none of those projects being a grift run by Dani). As far as I'm aware, and I could be very wrong, there isn't a set release date for the next Deltarune release but everyone is okay to wait 12 years because they enjoyed Undertale so much and the developer proved themselves capable of making a finished product they enjoy.

As for other actual visual novels with an episodic release, they are few and far between and I'm pretty sure all entirely incomplete because either the teams break up, the developers get bored, or the grift doesn't prove to be as profitable as they believed. Or flat out scams. There's so many of those in this space, it's ridiculous.

Worse still for Dani is that she will not ever get the viral online marketing boost that games like Dream Daddy, Huniepop, Monster Prom, and even that free Normal Boots VN got because her game is a racist piece of shit and most of the top streamers and Youtube gaming personalities are white, white-passing, friends with Pewdiepie, or already do their woke points postings for AAA titles that offer more than what a comic book could give them.

Detectives? Was it in black and white? With a pencil sketch sort of art style for the characters? I played it but can't remember the name.

ValiDate is definitely a grift. There's nothing really complex about this game. It's just "pick your tumblr poison and advance the racist text".

Butt fugly character designs, LGBTUV123 up the wazoo, tons of racism and slapping together random ethnicities and calling it diversity. There are just a few of the problems.

When summer 2022 comes and goes with no updates Dani will prolong the grift. But it can only last so long. I think she will eventually give up. But she'll milk it for all it's worth. Whether or not she'll try again though I don't know. She can always blame the failure on racism, homophobia, transphobia and the ebil why man. Then she can whine about that for awhile and get more attention.

 

[Sharkpants]

The only noteworthy games ever completed in the vein of a visual novel with that structure were Telltale's output and the Life is Strange series. I think there might have been one more game I've forgotten, something to do with detectives? But don't quote me on that.

Telltale is underwater and struggling for air right now while Life is Strange left the episodic nature of its releases with its lately entry because unless you're making something people give a shit about (i.e. Undertale and Deltarune seems to have skirted around this with its massive fan base - which came from a finished product, mind), people stop caring after a while.

The difference here is: Telltale and DONTNOD more or less released shit on schedule and even their lesser releases will be miles ahead of the quality of ValiDate, primarily due to resources available (and none of those projects being a grift run by Dani). As far as I'm aware, and I could be very wrong, there isn't a set release date for the next Deltarune release but everyone is okay to wait 12 years because they enjoyed Undertale so much and the developer proved themselves capable of making a finished product they enjoy.

As for other actual visual novels with an episodic release, they are few and far between and I'm pretty sure all entirely incomplete because either the teams break up, the developers get bored, or the grift doesn't prove to be as profitable as they believed. Or flat out scams. There's so many of those in this space, it's ridiculous.

Worse still for Dani is that she will not ever get the viral online marketing boost that games like Dream Daddy, Huniepop, Monster Prom, and even that free Normal Boots VN got because her game is a racist piece of shit and most of the top streamers and Youtube gaming personalities are white, white-passing, friends with Pewdiepie, or already do their woke points postings for AAA titles that offer more than what a comic book could give them.

See the main difference between these games and Validate is that they actually have some kind of story. Regardless of how good those stories ended up turning out they were still able to keep fans invested enough to wait and pay for the next part.

From what we've seen Validate has no real plot. Just a bunch of ugly people doing shut until they meet another ugly person and that's pretty much it. You're not even guaranteed an actual relationship by the end of each route.

Some dating sims tend to at least have something that ties all the routes together whether it be some kind of big event that happens at the end of every route or just a simple but effective basic storyline that keeps the characters moving.

So say you're the average visual novel reader that somehow didn't immediately turn off your PC at the sight of these monstrosities. You decide to try a specific route and the best ending you can possibly get is maybe the two ugly characters hookup and never speak to each other again. That's kind of a bummer right? So you try the other routes and they have very similar unsatisfying endings. That's all there is to the game. There's just nothing to be invested about.

Even if the characters weren't fucking hideous this would still fail as a dating sim because it's just a glorified deviantart oc character page

 

[GaijinBucks]

From what we've seen Validate has no real plot. Just a bunch of ugly people doing shut until they meet another ugly person and that's pretty much it. You're not even guaranteed an actual relationship by the end of each route.

This. Take Malik for example. Him being a blatant stereotype actually works in his favor because it gets you invested in his character. Why is he dating? Why is he promoting his mixtape? What’s his relationship with his kids and baby mama like? Do they like him? Does he like them?
The other characters don’t have any developments or interesting traits, they just have rants about *insert social commentary here* with ZERO pay off because the devs were more focused on le epic twitter memes instead of a story line.
You know, PLOT.
THE MOST IMPORTANT BACKBONE OF EVERY SINGLE VISUAL NOVEL EVER.
And when they do attempt a story, it backfires. Ashlie’s backstory with the other chick was written so awfully woke that it literally looped back to her sounding like an anti-black racist. What exactly is the player paying for? If I wanted to sit through a rant about society, I’d go on YouTube.

 

[Corn Flakes]

This. Take Malik for example. Him being a blatant stereotype actually works in his favor because it gets you invested in his character. Why is he dating? Why is he promoting his mixtape? What’s his relationship with his kids and baby mama like? Do they like him? Does he like them?
The other characters don’t have any developments or interesting traits, they just have rants about *insert social commentary here* with ZERO pay off because the devs were more focused on le epic twitter memes instead of a story line.
You know, PLOT.
THE MOST IMPORTANT BACKBONE OF EVERY SINGLE VISUAL NOVEL EVER.
And when they do attempt a story, it backfires. Ashlie’s backstory with the other chick was written so awfully woke that it literally looped back to her sounding like an anti-black racist. What exactly is the player paying for? If I wanted to sit through a rant about society, I’d go on YouTube.

ValiDate is dead on arrival for multiple reasons, but a lack of a player-controlled protagonist is one of the biggest. One of the biggest sources of plot in a visual novel are the narrator/main character's motivations and how they mesh with the potential suitors'. The player character being a blank slate for the player (or should I say reader?) does not help them in any way.

 

[creamy cookies]

The player character being a blank slate for the player (or should I say reader?) does not help them in any way.

eeh, player inserts are common in dating sim visual novels, but that's mostly for the sake of actually immersing in the story. otome games do this often, with protag-chan being silent except for the choices. or if it's a male protagonist he'd be a little nerdy and dull to be relatable, yet grows over the course of the story. the problem here is that these self-inserts are so goddamn boring even for blank slates with some backstory hamfisted in, as well as the dating options being awful human beings.

i play lots of vns for the characters and story, personally, to get invested in what they have to offer. and i assure you this game wouldn't end up as bad as it will be if they just let their characters write themselves. give me reason to care other than poc ranting about cis man, and more importantly i think if they're gonna still go with the paid volume plan, they should focus their view on fleshing out the few characters we get per volume. that way it'd be at least worth the ride.

i better expect something longer and have more substance than the goddamn fate/ series vns if i'm gonna pay for it, but we all know it won't even come out, so it's just a shame overall.

 

[Belial]

Was curious what this particular trainwreck was up to, only to discover that they've gotten so lazy that they are now even outsourcing the shitty memes that were the only "work" on the game they bothered to do in the first place.

 

[Sharkpants]

Was curious what this particular trainwreck was up to, only to discover that they've gotten so lazy that they are now even outsourcing the shitty memes that were the only "work" on the game they bothered to do in the first place.

Holy shit. They're actually begging for a fandom. They don't even have the confidence to do an art raffle because they know nobody is going to put that much effort for a shitty game.

This is actually embarrassing. My assumption it that they're worried not enough people are going to be willing to pay for their shitty game and spread the word but they're also too stubborn to make it free so now they're pulling this shit and praying the winners like the game enough to get it out there

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Holy shit. They're actually begging for a fandom. They don't even have the confidence to do an art raffle because they know nobody is going to put that much effort for a shitty game.

This is actually embarrassing. My assumption it that they're worried not enough people are going to be willing to pay for their shitty game and spread the word but they're also too stubborn to make it free so now they're pulling this shit and praying the winners like the game enough to get it out there

Really? Feels more like they're worried that people won't even remember the game by the time it comes out

 

[Something Awful]

Everything about this is so bizarre and nonsensical that I actually wonder if it might eventually become a cult classic like The Room. If they ever manage to release it.

 

[Corn Flakes]

Really? Feels more like they're worried that people won't even remember the game by the time it comes out

That implies they're actually going to release it, which is a possibility that's becoming more and more remote as time goes on.

 

[Sharkpants]

Everything about this is so bizarre and nonsensical that I actually wonder if it might eventually become a cult classic like The Room. If they ever manage to release it.

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Doubt it. Self righteous muh diversity trash like this almost always end up slogs to go through because they're less focused on making a good story and more focused on "educating" the evil cis white males. Just look at how high guardian spice turned out

 

[GaijinBucks]

Oh, hey. Great to see this thread is still kicking thanks to the Validate devs refusing to die like cockroaches.
I wonder what they’re up to these days—

NO MONEY? WHERE THE FUCK DID THE $47,000 FROM THE KICKSTARTER GO?

 

[Firewater]

Oh, hey. Great to see this thread is still kicking thanks to the Validate devs refusing to die like cockroaches.
I wonder what they’re up to these days—
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NO MONEY? WHERE THE FUCK DID THE $47,000 FROM THE KICKSTARTER GO?

A while back a kiwi made a statistical breakdown on why Dani's finances would be in shambles even if they got all the cash they e-begged for, plus she strikes me a lot as a "Kiva Bay" type of person so... the money was probably spent on something trivial and superfluous, who knows what that might be.

I also hope that every poor schmuck that donated to this disaster is happy with their investment.

 

[Sharkpants]

Oh, hey. Great to see this thread is still kicking thanks to the Validate devs refusing to die like cockroaches.
I wonder what they’re up to these days—
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NO MONEY? WHERE THE FUCK DID THE $47,000 FROM THE KICKSTARTER GO?

Those memes are hard work you know. Everytime Dani pastes a random character on a tumblr text post she has to reward herself with a five dollar Starbucks coffee

 

[spastic_bag]

I can't tell if it's more fun to watch this mess languish in development hell, or if the eventual release will provide even more laughs.

 

[GaijinBucks]

A while back a kiwi made a statistical breakdown on why Dani's finances would be in shambles even if they got all the cash they e-begged for, plus she strikes me a lot as a "Kiva Bay" type of person so... the money was probably spent on something trivial and superfluous, who knows what that might be.

I also hope that every poor schmuck that donated to this disaster is happy with their investment.

I wouldn’t be surprised if she manages to bleed through the entire funds. A bunch of her tweets have her spending absurd amounts on trivial shit and BRAGGING about it. A quick search will show you an OLED switch (~$350), a small Telfar bag (~$150), a iPhone 11 Pro Max (~€1100), and a bunch of switch games (around $40+ each) all within a couple months of each other. That’s about $2,000+ Dani has skimmed off the top in under a year, and given the fact she’s looking for work/unemployed and has no current stable income, it’s probably higher.
What really grinds my gears is the fact she’ll post these and then go on a jarring schtick about how poor she is within the same day in order to grift more money. It’s just horrid and dishonest for her to parade this idea as if she gave up her last food stamp to make this fucking visual novel while living in an alleyway cardboard box when she’s clearly doing objectively well enough to blow off money on designer bags.

If only kickstarter showed you people’s faces. I wanna see how many proud members of society suffered from this scam.

Those memes are hard work you know. Everytime Dani pastes a random character on a tumblr text post she has to reward herself with a five dollar Starbucks coffee

Her ko-fi made her over $6,000+. Who knew tumblr memes were such a lucrative business!

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

A while back a kiwi made a statistical breakdown on why Dani's finances would be in shambles even if they got all the cash they e-begged for, plus she strikes me a lot as a "Kiva Bay" type of person so... the money was probably spent on something trivial and superfluous, who knows what that might be.

I also hope that every poor schmuck that donated to this disaster is happy with their investment.

My breakdown on the original projected merchandise being retarded, or the expected budget breakdown by Waifuwars?

 

[Firewater]

My breakdown on the original projected merchandise being retarded, or the expected budget breakdown by Waifuwars?

Either breakdown is good to illustrate my point.

 

[GaijinBucks]

> August 2022.
> Mark plays Validate because he’s running out of content.
> Makes a vague comment about one of the characters that could be considered offensive.
> Someone miraculously gets offended.
> Makes a lengthy comment criticising Mark.
> Replies range from agreeing to disagreeing to straight-up trolling.
> YouTube comments quickly begin to tear at each other’s throats.
> Sheer size of Mark’s 12-year-old fanbase causes the discourse to spread onto Twitter like a virus.
> Twitter explodes the discourse into a full blown race war.
> Dani begins her Joker arc. Calls Markiplier anti-black and starts peddling her ko-fi for “emotional damages”.
> News articles saying Pewdiepie is somehow responsible for all of this.
> Battle of the insane validate fans versus insane markiplier fans.
> Markiplier’s 30-million army is too OP for Dani, Validate gets swallowed whole.
> People begin to rip and tear the game apart in defence of their beloved Markimoo. (#WESTANDWITHMARK starts trending.)
> Random youtubers come out the woodwork to gain clout under the pretence of writing a tweet @‘ing Mark and praying for his well-being.
> Validate is taken down due to huge controversy.
> Dani, much like her former comrades, claims a mental health break, jumps ship and disappears from the twitter scene (for about six months until she rebrands under a different name).
> Mark’s next video is some random shit, like it didn’t affect him at all. It gets number #1 on trending for gaming. Comments full of people hoping he’s okay, glad he’s back and telling him to take it easy.

> This all happens under two weeks.

Calling this shit right now.

 

[Dumpster dived waifu]

Alternatively, he sees the game, says it looks ugly and never touches it.