Valve introduces Steam Deck

It looks like the Asus ROG Ally pricing was "leaked." This info sure is hyping it up until the mid May launch. $700 usd isn't too bad and seems like it will compete handily with the Deck.

https://www.dexerto.com/tech/asus-rog-ally-price-leaks-and-its-cheaper-than-you-think-2127094/
My assumption is that AMD,Microsoft and Asus got a partnership to deploy the Z1 chips with their handheld , the Ally come with to many perks for that price is in all regards better than the deck the only thing missing would be Steam OS compatibility and that is going to be a given mere weeks after the device is released

Why Microsoft? because is awfully suspicious they were interested of making a UI for those devices when they dont have any that actually properly run it, yes you can install window 11 and run it on the Deck and in some Ayaneos i think? but the experience is absolutely miserable

I hope this put a firecracker on the asses of overpriced Steam deck clones that were going around
 
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My assumption is that AMD,Microsoft and Asus got a partnership to deploy the Z1 chips with their handheld , the Ally come with to many perks for that price is in all regards better than the deck the only thing missing would be Steam OS compatibility and that is going to be a given mere weeks after the device is released

Why Microsoft? because is awfully suspicious they were interested of making a UI for those devices when they dont have any that actually properly run it, yes you can install window 11 and run it on the Deck on in some Ayaneos i think? but the experience is absolutely miserable

I hope this put a firecracker on the asses of overpriced Steam deck clones that were going around
Whatever the reasons may be for its head to head pricing with the Deck, I'm interested and am actually looking forward to purchasing it from a big block store vs ordering a Deck on Steam's website. If Steam decides to sell the Deck in retail stores too, that would make the competition even more exciting.
 
Another leak fresh out of the oven, the first model will come with the Z1 non extreme processor and 256 gb nvme at 600 bucks

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I just hope they come with hall effect joysticks or Gulikit provide replacements for them
 
Another leak fresh out of the oven, the first model will come with the Z1 non extreme processor and 256 gb nvme at 600 bucks

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I just hope they come with hall effect joysticks or Gulikit provide replacements for them
If they are hall effect sticks they better be good implementations. I had the displeasure of having the hall effect gimbals on my rc transmitter go out of calibration because it wasn't made to account for changes in temperature.
 
For me the biggest deal breaker is the removal of the track pads. The directional track pads provides a way to keybind a few additional buttons in case you need them and an option to have a scroll wheel in games without a mouse connected. They're also good for having a navigational tool for desktop mode if you are in a hurry and don't want to connect a Bluetooth mouse to navigate the interface.
and then you remember how much people complained about the trackpads before the deck came out... :story:
 
Another leak fresh out of the oven, the first model will come with the Z1 non extreme processor and 256 gb nvme at 600 bucks

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I just hope they come with hall effect joysticks or Gulikit provide replacements for them

I love that this is a thing. This is exactly what I predicted would happen, other hardware manufacturers creating their own versions of the Steam Deck after seeing Valve's handheld succeding. This could not happen at a better time as a way for people to get into PC gaming at more reasonable prices as desktop PC component prices are getting out of hand (We thought we'll be out of the woods after the crypto market crashed only for AI now driving up again the demand for graphic cards).

Most likely Valve will add support for the ROG Ally's chipset in future updates of SteamOS to incentivize people to install it instead of Windows 11.

and then you remember how much people complained about the trackpads before the deck came out... :story:

Even if the Ally is more "advanced" there are some features that still make the Deck the preferable option.

At least the Ally has a touchscreen so that might alleviate somewhat the lack of trackpads.
 
At least the Ally has a touchscreen so that might alleviate somewhat the lack of trackpads.
The steam deck has a touchscreen as well. Thing is the touch screen on the steam deck fucking sucks and using the touch screen while your hand is gripping the device is really uncomfortable. I would fully expect the touchscreen experience on these other devices to be uncomfortable as well which is probably why the deck has those trackpads. I don't understand why other companies don't just steal the decks trackpad idea. It works and I would argue they are the ideal way to navigate desktop UI's especially for windows which is horrible to navigate with a touchscreen. The only company I know of who even attempts a similar thing is GPD and their tiny square optic trackpad thing.
 
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Most likely Valve will add support for the ROG Ally's chipset in future updates of SteamOS to incentivize people to install it instead of Windows 11.
I think they will support it because what Valve want is more people using Steam, Canadian man stated some days that the Ally is definitely good on specs but Window 11 ruin the experience because is not optimized for it, he also stated that it would be a matter of people just porting Steam OS to the Ally, thing that WILL happen thanks to the open source nature of it

My take is, buy the thing wait until the Steam OS for it pops up
 
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Most likely Valve will add support for the ROG Ally's chipset in future updates of SteamOS to incentivize people to install it instead of Windows 11.
steamos is open source, if valve doesn't do it nothing is preventing asus from doing it. the hardware itself isn't that exotic either so I'd assume the most they'd have to do is do proper defaults etc.

I don't understand why other companies don't just steal the decks trackpad idea.
more features = higher costs = higher price. in the end not everyone needs the trackpads depending on the games they play, so it's good to have options (in theory, if the price is the same it doesn't really matter).
 
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I've started playing Morrowind and it was surprisingly easy to set up and runs really well on the deck. There are a few different guides and methods but the easiest way I found is to just download OpenMW from the software centre and add it as a non-steam game. I installed the GOG version of Morrowind on my Windows PC, dropped the files into one of the folder on my Deck and pointed OpenMW to the right folder when it first boots up. So far performance has been solid and everything is configured pretty well for the most part. I don't really like mods but tried one out and it seemed to work fine out of the box.
and then you remember how much people complained about the trackpads before the deck came out... :story:
The trackpad was actually a lifesaver. I spent an hour or two and was ready to give up on Morrowind on deck, the game was just not made with a controller in mind and needs a lot of precise clicks in the menus. Doing that with an analog stick is hell. Then I realised I can use the trackpads and messed around with the configuration, set the right one to be a mouse and one of the back buttons to function as a left click. It works surprisingly well.

I played Morrowind for maybe 5-10 hours 15 years ago and gave up, about time I gave it another crack. Though rolling a pure magic character was probably a mistake, my spells keep failing and I get ass raped in almost every encounter because I'm so squishy. Would probably have had an easier time with some warrior class.
 
Asus ROG Ally doesn't have the Steam Deck stand by even with Steam OS installed from what I understand, the extra power is nice but without the pick up and go of the Deck just seems pointless. It's nice to play a game for a few minutes then being able to put the deck on stand bye and come back hours later to pick up where you left off.
 
With all the scandals revolving around ASUS lately I wonder if anyone would even want a handheld made from them.
 
With all the scandals revolving around ASUS lately I wonder if anyone would even want a handheld made from them.
scandals?

Asus ROG Ally doesn't have the Steam Deck stand by even with Steam OS installed from what I understand, the extra power is nice but without the pick up and go of the Deck just seems pointless. It's nice to play a game for a few minutes then being able to put the deck on stand bye and come back hours later to pick up where you left off.
isn't that just suspend to ram/disk? unless the steam deck does anything fancy that should be possible in software (although not sure if it requires some bios support, vaguely remember some ACPI crap but it's been years) even on the ally.
 
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isn't that just suspend to ram/disk? unless the steam deck does anything fancy that should be possible in software (although not sure if it requires some bios support, vaguely remember some ACPI crap but it's been years) even on the ally.
Not fully sure how it's done, just know it's the same as it is on least say the switch or pretty much any console. No idea if the ROG Ally could be patched to do it, or if it's something Windows it's self would need to be updated for, but for me it's a must have feature for any handheld.
 
The Ally & other rip-offs are going to find it hard to compete without a Steam Input equivalent. A big chunk of my library wasn't functional or comfortable without downloading a user-made input. Old and new games alike.

The average person is going to fall back to controller setups without trackpads, and then there's not a lot of practical difference compared to a current-gen console.
 
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