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I gathered clips. Some highlights from that wannabe terrorist Vowsh:
Imagine watching a livestream of Vaush leading the next January 6th. I recall him saying that he would support storming the Congress if it is done with the right people and cause.
Vaush will be debating whether female identifying troons are women with some sort of Dr., debate is hosted by Modern-Day Debate next week. Looks like he is confident in his recycled gender preacher talking points. Hope whoever he is debating is somewhat competent and not braindead, because that should be an easy win.
A couple of Twitter threads dismantling Vaush's pseudo-intellectualism regarding the question of this generation, "What is a Woman?":
The best value Vaush has as a lolcow is that he is an excellent provider of sophistry that can be broken down in a safe setting.
An amusing observation is that just a few weeks ago with the "Don't Say Gay" craze, Vaush said that Republican politicians don't actually care about LGBT people nor do they have any grand plans. They are just greedy people who want to collect money from lobbies and cut taxes for the rich, so they engage in meaningless culture wars to distract voters.
Things sure escalated quickly. Now they are plotting a takeover to round up socialists, LGBT people, and racial minorities to execute them.
Tim Pool took a lot longer to build up his civil war narrative, and he didn't nearly go this far.
As previously stated, he toned up the extremist and inflammatory nature of in his rhetoric after the Roe v. Wade leak, by demonizing (Get it? It is a pun since he literally calls people demons in human flesh) people who might hold a more right leaning position. Such a debate lord.
Did you know Republicans love their child brides?
Vaush went off the rails with his stochastic terrorism while justifying his genocide fearmongering and bad-faith rhetoric to a new 19 years old Social Democrat called Luke Beasley.
Prepare for a wild ride (and a decently long one, +20 short clips. Transcribed it to help you skim through them). Once you think this Vowsh person can't keep saying more crazy radical shit, he just keeps going.
If someone was to make a supercut, which quotes do you recommend to be included? The Buffalo shooter statement is a must.
- Explicitly tells his audience to "break the law" and "throw bricks" and do "warring with the police" and "get neighborhoods bombed" as long as they don't hurt "innocent people" (not sure that includes Republicans as they are "demons in human flesh" and "evil and immediately threatening").
- Tells his viewers that they need to be psychotic, that they won't get an other chance as we are one step away from Fascism (i.e. Republicans winning elections), and that they need to put the fear of God into Republicans.
- Says Republicans are like the Nazi movement in Germany and anything other than aggressive militant action won't stop them.
- Says we should both advocate for violence like Republicans and still get mass appeal.
- Says democratic solutions won't work, so we need to turn into radical action and direct action, and not just preparation for self-defense.
- Tells his audience that they need to grow up and realize that Republicans are monsters trying to kill them.
- Says that the way to squash fascistic movements is to win violent clashes.
- Says if MAGA flag trucks are driving through neighborhoods, like they did in the Black Lives Matter protests, Leftists should be capable of gunning them down from apartment windows.
- Admits that him dog whistling for violence is good because it is effective.
- He directly compares the Republican Party to Nazis, and then claims Jews would've saved from themselves from the Holocaust if they were more radically militant and acted pre-emptively, such as assassinating Hitler and Nazi leaders.
- Declares that it is impossible to consider Leftist aggressors or initiators of violence, and claims that it is impossible to consider violence used to prevent a potential genocide not self-defensive.
- Literally acknowledges that the Buffalo shooter thought he was acting in self-defense too, but the difference is that he was wrong about white genocide, while Vaush is right about his prediction of Republican-made genocide.
Imagine watching a livestream of Vaush leading the next January 6th. I recall him saying that he would support storming the Congress if it is done with the right people and cause.
Vaush will be debating whether female identifying troons are women with some sort of Dr., debate is hosted by Modern-Day Debate next week. Looks like he is confident in his recycled gender preacher talking points. Hope whoever he is debating is somewhat competent and not braindead, because that should be an easy win.
A couple of Twitter threads dismantling Vaush's pseudo-intellectualism regarding the question of this generation, "What is a Woman?":
The best value Vaush has as a lolcow is that he is an excellent provider of sophistry that can be broken down in a safe setting.
An amusing observation is that just a few weeks ago with the "Don't Say Gay" craze, Vaush said that Republican politicians don't actually care about LGBT people nor do they have any grand plans. They are just greedy people who want to collect money from lobbies and cut taxes for the rich, so they engage in meaningless culture wars to distract voters.
Things sure escalated quickly. Now they are plotting a takeover to round up socialists, LGBT people, and racial minorities to execute them.
Tim Pool took a lot longer to build up his civil war narrative, and he didn't nearly go this far.
As previously stated, he toned up the extremist and inflammatory nature of in his rhetoric after the Roe v. Wade leak, by demonizing (Get it? It is a pun since he literally calls people demons in human flesh) people who might hold a more right leaning position. Such a debate lord.
| "I understand the urge to engage in sociological analysis, but first and foremost it is critical to understand the fact that Republicans are demons wearing human flesh. You can fault Democrats for being incompetent or maliciously incompetent - and you should by the way, I encourage you to - but [for] most Democrats I don't feel they are actual envoys of Satan wearing human flesh. Republicans, however, this is a requirement for entry." [... arguing the Pro-Life position is to ban all contraceptives, including condoms, with no interest to improve healthcare ...] "The reason they care is because they want to control women. That is it. At the end of the day that is it." |
Did you know Republicans love their child brides?
| "They want this because they hate you. Because they are evil and they hate you. That is the only reason why. They defy sociological analysis. They simply desire your suffering. Trying to understand their motivation is like trying to understand the motivation of a Captain Planet villain - I'll drive an oil tanker to the middle of the Atlantic and blow it up so we can get the oil to cover all the fish. Okay, why? Because they are a Captain Planet villain, that's why." |
Vaush went off the rails with his stochastic terrorism while justifying his genocide fearmongering and bad-faith rhetoric to a new 19 years old Social Democrat called Luke Beasley.
Prepare for a wild ride (and a decently long one, +20 short clips. Transcribed it to help you skim through them). Once you think this Vowsh person can't keep saying more crazy radical shit, he just keeps going.
We'll be seeing a lot of anti-democracy rants. This is a dispute that cannot be resolved as gentlemen. Bring in the guns and prepare for gorilla warfare.
Fuck them traditional institutions, am I right?
What is interesting is that right at the end, he says that it is impossible for any violence done in the service of Leftist causes to not be self-defense or for Leftists to be initiators of violence; it is right therefore it is justified. So any obfuscation about self-defense should be understood in that context.
Remember that he doesn't think Kyle Rittenhouse did defensive violence; he should've submitted to the mobs, because that is what mobs do. They chase murderers.
Despite calling Republicans evil all day, it turns out that he considers the term subjective, and he is just using it as a rhetorical cudgel.
Ian Anthony Kochinski is an evil demon from hell.
'Let's nuke Israel' Vaush appropriating the Holocaust like a champ for demogogary; we need to get them evil murderous evil Nazi Republicans, the Jews weren't radical enough and look what happened to them. They could've saved themselves from evil murderous Nazis, just like we could save ourselves from evil murderous Republicans!
Interstingly enough, just before the Whatifalthist debate, Vaush claimed that MLK was "explicitly Marxist" despite MLK publicly being an opponent and critic of Marxism.
Russiagate has questioned the validity of the presidential election, even claiming that Russian hackers changed the vote tally in Trump's favor, and it is a far more influential and mainstream conspiracy theory than Q-Anon.
Can't you see? You're standing in the way of Leftist Unity...
What is amusing is that Communists called moderate Social Democrats who condemned full-on Communist dictatorships to be "Social Fascists" (their "False Consciousness" makes revolution impossible) and refused to work with them, which split the opposition to the Nazi party.
Imagine LARPing because the Democratic Party sucks right now, and you are a sore loser.
Germany briefly had a Republic after the end of the first World War with many preferring a return to a competent Kaiser over a dysfunctional democracy, not exactly the epitome of stability. If a three hour riot is what we have to worry about, then the democratic system will be fine.
You hear that? You squash the fascist movements (like Republicans) by winning the violent clashes.
Remember when Scott Adams said Republicans will be hunted down if Biden wins? Imagine the opposite but more extreme.
The country will totally tolerate white ethno-nationalists versions of CHAZ popping up and taking over cities.
They had MAGA flags. They had it coming. Plus, they were sitting ducks.
Evidence all cops are bastards.
When gun owners buy the guns before the Feds gets them, it is because they are collectors or they are anticipating a price hike. Not because they are plotting LARPY terrorist operations to assassinate Fascists before the next election.
I thought blue state guards were a good thing to protect against the evil federal government. But it turns out state guards being revitalized to help during natural disasters is evidence of genocide.
Any way, the guy sitting next you hates you and is an evil demon; he is definitely going to stab you and your family any second. Be prepared to use your gun defensively
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The problem isn't buying guns, it is plotting and inciting terrorism, and telling your audience to 'break the law', 'throw bricks', and 'bomb neighborhoods', and treat Republicans like Jews would treat Nazis during the Holocaust, Vaush...
How do you deal with Nazi-like "Evil and immediately threatening" people using aggressive militant political action?
Not surprised someone as elitist as Vaush won't bother doing the dirty work himself.
Being psychotic and destroying property is a great electoral strategy btw.
Looks like Vaush was going to lose the bet Destiny proposed. It wouldn't be clear whether democracy is dead or whether Republicans are genocidal maniacs' until +8 year later, and even after it happens regular Americans are incapable of starting a revolution. But the window to prevent this invisible genocide is closing, so we need to engage in radical action fast.
The only ones who can prevent the phantom Fascist genocide are LARPY Leftists who can't muster the effort to be a reliable voter base, and they'll do it by organizing armed Lefty militias and issuing threats of violence.
Vaush is a big fan of "The Storm" & "Dark MAGA", I see...
Vaush thinks that we can't persuade people with arguments to make them vote. Looks like Vaush's problem is with how democracy works. Why does he support democracy in the workplace if he thinks it doesn't work for the government?
Imagine claiming to care so much about the mental health of LGBT people, but trying to fearmonger them and make them lose sleep over a fictional genocidal civil war as a political strategy.
What happens when Democrats get less votes is that they lose. It's called democracy. You can't subvert it with a brigand radical group, Vaush.
If Vaush is as electorally effective with his demogoguery as he claims, he should definitely run. I am sure he'll do better than Cenk or Sargon.
Vaush says that dog whistling for violence is good because it is effective.
Later on, he says that his comparisons to Nazis are so clear that they don't count as dog whistles, and in sophistry claims that he doesn't need to dog whistle because he is right as if you can't dog whistle a correct thing.
Vaush hammers down that Liberals must grow up and realize that they live in the same country with monsters who wants them killed (i.e. Republican voters), and says that fearmongering is good when it is real (such as with climate change and Republicans being sadistic monsters going for blood).
He also compares that actions we need to do with the French resistance in World War II doing guerilla warfare against Nazi occupiers. Of course he neglects to mention that there were Right Wingers in the French Resistance, and they were united because they are dealing with foreign invaders.
Once we get rid of the Republican occupiers, we will adopt the American Pride Flag to spite the Fascists. Vive la Résistance!
Vaush declares Reagan's slow response to the spread of AIDS to be a genocide, he also thinks that hundreds of thousands of people died from AIDS in the 80s.
Vaush gets asked to elaborate on his revolutionary strategies (Vaush chat has been full of pepe memes accompanied with "OF COURSE NOT" and "I disavow", whenever he mentions violence. They know what's up), and Vaush drops a dog whistle by saying Luke must be trying to get his channel banned. He then argues that just like we should not be condemning Jews for using violence against Nazis, we should not condemn Leftists for using violence against Republicans.
We're past the point of preventing Republicans from winning through democracy, lads. Violent counteraction might fail, but we should try it anyway.
I think Vaush's ideal form of government is a one-party-system. And if we have to use violence to get it, then so be it.
When Vaush is told that the violent militia shit isn't good for getting popularity and votes, Vaush says that we should think about it as a matter of life and death, and they can't let Republicans win in elections. He then brings up how it is justified to use violence against Nazis again.
Vaush claims that trans people are currently like Jews being locked up in ghettos before being they are being shipped to Nazi gas chambers.
Ironically, Vaush and Leftists have been weaponizing dehumanizing language, like Nazi, for years and made it their main strategy. CRT, which they reactionarily defend, literally labels whiteness as evil. If anyone is dehumanizing Liberals and Leftists, they don't have political power.
Practically every major corporation celebrates LGBT pride; doesn't exactly signal an impending genocide around the corner. Imagine the average German going to the store in Nazi Germany, and seeing celebrations of Jewish Pride Month.
A journalists in Reagan's time said that AIDS is known as "the gay plague" causing the press pool to laugh, and Reagan's press secretary made jokes about whether anyone in the room caught it. Nowadays everyone in the room would get cancelled. There is far more LGBT acceptance than ever. Imagine a military general saying "Go to that state and round up all the LGBT and Mexican people".
Also, Leftist violence helped Hitler get more power.
Vaush memes more about assassinating Republican politicians is like how Jews should've assassinated Nazis
The Jew's might've been successful in preventing their own extermination if they were radical Leftists like Vaush.
Imagine hiding behind the Holocaust and a thin veneer of irony, because assassinating Nazis is what "we can talk about" when asked to elaborate what should happen to Republicans today.
Vaush disavows political violence with a smile on his face when asked about assassinating Trump, and then compares Trump to Hitler, and says we should learn from history how Fascists like Nazis are not the type to be dislodged through any type to civil protest, and that it is justified to kill them.
If we can prove Vaush supports political violence, this means that he supports assassinating Trump
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What is the ideal political messaging according to Vaush? A message of feat and terror. He talks shit about Biden too, and admits he is fearmongering about Republicans because he can't get people to vote for Biden. Anyone who says that Republicans won't commit a Holocaust believes in American exceptionalism.
Luke tries to tell him that this is a bad idea and it makes him look like a psychopath, and Vaush loses it and accuses Luke of being a psyop for questioning that Republicans are Fascists plotting a genocide as they speak. Rhetoric not based on fearmongering is so incompetent that it is fucked up. Vaush is told that his fearmongering and incitement to violence is so batshit insane it will turn people off, and Vaush says these people can die.
Republicans have been successful in their messaging because they can counter the woke shit the Democrats are leaning on. Instead of encouraging Democrats to revise their strategy, Leftists should turn to stochastic terrorism.
Imagine if a paranoid schizo person like Vaush is controlling a political group through fear and violence.
Vaush says that the only reason people on the left and center would be turned off by his messaging is that they haven't been introduced to enough of it yet. Yeah, if we repeat his messaging enough times, people will become radical commies; we need to gaslight them enough.
He also repeats that Democrat voters are dumb and spineless for using voting as their strategy for change. Such trust in the democratic system.
He attempts a cop out with 'technically everything is violence, including voting'. But if you ask him if overthrowing the U.S. government is acceptance violence, or assassinating U.S. political figures is acceptable violence, he'll answer in the affirmative or at least dog whistle for it.
Also I am interesting to hear examples of legitimate social violence against minorities according to Vaush. Social violence includes terrorism by the way.
Does he seriously think that mild milquetoast parental rights bill (aka. Don't Say Gay bill) almost everyone agrees with puts us on the path of genocide and Fascism?
Which one of you is ready to subscribe to DeSantis' child kill count quotas text messaging service?
1:24:44 - 1:25:44
The Grand Old Party, the party of tradition, is fully prepared to orchestrate the fall of Rome and traditional institution. Let's go!
Vaush claims that the average Conservative thinks that the mainstream Liberal establishment is plotting to mass murder Conservatives, and says that he is just copying the messaging of these crazy paranoid Conservatives while being right. Vaush praises those crazy paranoid Conservative for having the will to go through with defensive mass murder unlike Liberals.
If a Right Winger was publicly using the same rhetoric Vaush is using, Three-letter Agencies would be at their doorstep within the week.
When is the last time Vaush touched grass? Does he actually listen to talk radio? Who actually listens to talk radio nowadays?
He loves the "Vaush Limbaugh" nickname. Better find something else bros. Vaush Fuentes?
Vaush says that Democrats have been deliberately grooming their voter base to be weak and unwilling to participate in violent insurgency. I thought the word groomers had no meaning other than pedos.
I think we can agree that the Democratic Party is a party of groomers.
Vaush (temporarily; he says even more shocking statements in defense of terrorism at the end) becomes a doomer, and says that realistically this LARPY violent revolutionary shit he has been justifying is too little too late, because US institutions are too strong and will endure even if we assassinate the president, therefore attempts at insurrections wouldn't be effective and we can't prevent a dystopian civil war and a Fascist take over, and the best thing Leftists can do is turtle up in their neighborhood as they get genocided.
Great message to get Leftists voting, Vaush. The January 6th riots now sounds less scary.
Nice fan fiction bro, and no it doesn't make sense.
Vaush is asked about Mr. Girl, and he looks tense (properly anticipating a pedophilia question). Vaush then proceeds to describe himself as he is dissing Mr. Girl without any self-awareness.
Vaush is very twitchy regarding the Pedo Question.
Vaush talks about how we need to reject American exceptionalism, and how the US inspired Nazis through eugenics (even though eugenics started as a Leftist progressive movement).
Vaush says that the only thing Democrats can do is hold the line while LARPY Leftists prepare to fight the Fascists. He says they need to explore alternatives to voting against Republicans, whether it is radical action, direct action, or preparation for self-defense.
He says that his position regarding violence becomes incredibly clear when we compare Republicans to Nazis during the Holocaust; it is so clear that he doesn't consider his call to violence to be dog whistling. He says that it is easy to make sense of his position, because we gun down Nazi soldiers in video games as resistance fighters.
He says that all violence Leftist do is by definition self-defense; it is impossible to consider Leftist insurrectionists to not be acting in self-defense because they are defending against genocide.
He admits that the Buffalo shooter likewise thought he was acting in self-defense too, but the difference is that the Buffalo shooter was wrong about white genocide, but Vaush is right about LGBT genocide.
When you thought the craziness can't peak more. But it did right at the end.
| "I think we are rapidly reaching the point where our ability to achieve our political goals comes down to convincing Liberals - like yourself - that this is no longer a political conflict which can be won exclusively through, you know, traditional institutionalist political discourse, because the Democratic Party isn't willing or able to operate as an effective agent of change on our behalf. Instead we need to be preparing for more dire civil conflict, and in so doing we need the stakes to be understood fully, which I obviously want to impress upon my audience, and I do fully believe that." |
Fuck them traditional institutions, am I right?
What is interesting is that right at the end, he says that it is impossible for any violence done in the service of Leftist causes to not be self-defense or for Leftists to be initiators of violence; it is right therefore it is justified. So any obfuscation about self-defense should be understood in that context.
| "You talk about non-violent rhetoric; so I am a big advocate of defensive violence here. I do think we are in the preliminary stages of a genocide, against Queer people in particular, but properly adjacent groups as well. And in such an environment I think it would be politically irresponsible to treat the agents of that genocide with anything other than the greatest possible degree of moral condemnation. You see there are historical examples of your strategy not working; usually when Fascist governments begin to take power there is an outspoken Liberal contingent that mocks, downplays, or attempt to civilly reason with and pull people over, and of course invariably they are silenced or killed; the fascists take power. Anyway, these people don't seem to be responsive to alarmist rhetoric, you know." |
Remember that he doesn't think Kyle Rittenhouse did defensive violence; he should've submitted to the mobs, because that is what mobs do. They chase murderers.
Despite calling Republicans evil all day, it turns out that he considers the term subjective, and he is just using it as a rhetorical cudgel.
| "Even evil is not a real moral category; the closest thing that I can come up with - outside of rhetorical shorthands - is the axioms that they are attempting to maximize with their behavior are in stark contradiction to the outcomes of the axioms that I would like to put about." [...] "In that sense you might say: Evil is a shorthand. The long form would be: Their axiomatic outcomes are mutually exclusive to mine. They contradict." |
Ian Anthony Kochinski is an evil demon from hell.
'Let's nuke Israel' Vaush appropriating the Holocaust like a champ for demogogary; we need to get them evil murderous evil Nazi Republicans, the Jews weren't radical enough and look what happened to them. They could've saved themselves from evil murderous Nazis, just like we could save ourselves from evil murderous Republicans!
| "I'll just be a bit more direct here. I think that for interpersonal conversations, it is very important to adopt certain rhetorical approaches to make people like they are understood and to address their concerns. I also feel like we are on the precipice of a genocide. And I know, looking at history, that your approach has been ineffective to say the least. Would you have told the Jews back in 32 in Germany that they shouldn't be calling Hitler evil because they may yet convince some moderate leaning Germans? Of course not. You would understand that past a point you just need to ferment as much radical opposition as possible. What we're living through right now is an era of unprecedented partisanship and there just isn't that much evidence to indicate that in a broad scale we're going to pull the Republican Party apart; the Q-Anon believing, the January 6th defending, 'Trump really won the election' believing Republican Party apart. What we can do is socially stigmatize them, and that is an effective form of rhetoric. After the civil rights act was passed and Dr Martin Luther King Jr. was killed, most Americans didn't like the man, they thought he was too radical. We didn't make people and make social life less racist by calmly debating the issue or reaching out or being bipartisan, we did it by shaming. I think it's high time that the perpetrators of of a potential genocide be referred to as what they actually are. This liberal hand ringing has not brought Republicans over to us, okay? They are evil. They are murderers. And I think it's okay to tell people that. If that makes them go out and buy guns and ammo, and prepare for a day where they try to enact that genocide, then all better for it. Guns are already in this country, and I would rather them be in the hands of victims than victors." |
Interstingly enough, just before the Whatifalthist debate, Vaush claimed that MLK was "explicitly Marxist" despite MLK publicly being an opponent and critic of Marxism.
Russiagate has questioned the validity of the presidential election, even claiming that Russian hackers changed the vote tally in Trump's favor, and it is a far more influential and mainstream conspiracy theory than Q-Anon.
Can't you see? You're standing in the way of Leftist Unity...
| "They're [Liberals] are not part of my socialist movement and they can't really be part of an anti-Fascist movement either unless they're actually willing to act on it but they're not." [...] "Liberals need to be dissuaded of their weird ahistorical paternalistic delusion that Fascism is something that civility will work us out of, instead of buying guns and operating militantly. That is what I look to do by the way. Liberals need to be afraid - they should be afraid. We are at the precipice of a very difficult social situation. Their fear needs to be politically effective." |
What is amusing is that Communists called moderate Social Democrats who condemned full-on Communist dictatorships to be "Social Fascists" (their "False Consciousness" makes revolution impossible) and refused to work with them, which split the opposition to the Nazi party.
Imagine LARPing because the Democratic Party sucks right now, and you are a sore loser.
| The Weimar Republic was the most progressive place in Europe before the Nazis took over. Republicans in 2024 will properly have all four branches - well, three branches, four segments - the presidency, the Senate, Congress, and certainly the courts. If you don't think they'll be willing to just start engaging in full stop legal oppression - in their message for decades they have been signaling this, what do you think the lead up for this will be? |
Germany briefly had a Republic after the end of the first World War with many preferring a return to a competent Kaiser over a dysfunctional democracy, not exactly the epitome of stability. If a three hour riot is what we have to worry about, then the democratic system will be fine.
You hear that? You squash the fascist movements (like Republicans) by winning the violent clashes.
Remember when Scott Adams said Republicans will be hunted down if Biden wins? Imagine the opposite but more extreme.
The country will totally tolerate white ethno-nationalists versions of CHAZ popping up and taking over cities.
| "You squash fascistic movements by winning the violent clashes." [...] "I don't know if a civil war is the right word, but there's certainly going to be violence in this country during my lifetime, and if there is going to be violence then I would prefer the people with the better morals to be the ones who are appropriately armed and prepared. But my actual guess is that there's going to be an increasing divide between red and blue states and that with control of the federal government, Republicans are going to attempt to impose federal law to control the blue states - because they can't control it with state law -Blue states some of them will refuse, and then there might be clashes between state guard or police, you know some police might try to enforce it, but like others will say like 'no don't do that', there might be attempts at ousting. Remember during the Black Lives Matter rallies, you know there were like those patriot prayer dumb fucks rolling their, you know, $60,000 trucks through like urban neighborhoods with a bunch of guys with guns in the pickup trucks, when that happens i want people to be able to take shots at them from apartment windows. You know i don't want them just be victims here, we have to be ready." |
They had MAGA flags. They had it coming. Plus, they were sitting ducks.
Evidence all cops are bastards.
When gun owners buy the guns before the Feds gets them, it is because they are collectors or they are anticipating a price hike. Not because they are plotting LARPY terrorist operations to assassinate Fascists before the next election.
| "First of all, the Right's been doing that for decades, this whole 'The Feds are going to take my guns we better arm up'? They've been getting ready for decades, so we got to catch up. Second of, all it doesn't matter if they want to go doing any shooting. You know what's actually going to happen? Police are going to try to do it first and then they're going to support the police. You know go look at any genocide in recent history, in the past century, the way you think it plays out ain't how it plays out. You know it's not like a bunch of people vote or like there's a poll how many of you want to kill the minorities, and like 50% say yes and then they go start doing it. You know there's a creeping assimilation of political power as the Right ramps up genocidal messaging against minority groups, accusing them of being the weakness within the country that's tearing them and civilization apart. Then you see like Right Wing militias acting alongside like police units to enforce unofficial or official legal restrictions against certain minority groups or left-leaning areas. This has happened before, and by the way that militia group shit's already happened ain't it. DeSantis recently didn't he try to form like some Florida state guard? Yeah I wonder what he wanted that for. Yeah, makes you wonder, right after an attempted political coup why would one of the most Right Wing governors in the country - maybe the most - who's gunning for president in 24 want essentially a private army. Obviously it doesn't operate exactly as a private army but you know he's played it fast and loose the rules before. Man, we need guns, and it's defensive too. I'm not talking about initiating violence I'm only talking about making sure innocent folks can defend themselves when they come for them." |
I thought blue state guards were a good thing to protect against the evil federal government. But it turns out state guards being revitalized to help during natural disasters is evidence of genocide.
Any way, the guy sitting next you hates you and is an evil demon; he is definitely going to stab you and your family any second. Be prepared to use your gun defensively
.The problem isn't buying guns, it is plotting and inciting terrorism, and telling your audience to 'break the law', 'throw bricks', and 'bomb neighborhoods', and treat Republicans like Jews would treat Nazis during the Holocaust, Vaush...
How do you deal with Nazi-like "Evil and immediately threatening" people using aggressive militant political action?
| "The thing is that you are the one more out of touch with America than I am here, because you're the one who flinched when I said you should buy a gun, you know. I'm in touch with Americana here. I'm in touch with Americana. Guns, why shouldn't we own them dozens of them, thousands of rounds of ammunition, armored vests. I think I explained my rationale well enough, the precursors to genocide what leads to it, that's a broadly recognized thing not just some crazy lefty theory based thing. The issue with liberals right now is they don't understand the stakes, you know. Liberals should be treating Republicans as what they actually are: Evil and immediately threatening. Now you can talk with them all you want, I love talking to folks; you saw that convo i had with the LDS person last night? friendly convo. It's not an intrinsic thing, bring Republicans over, save them from themselves. But this the threat right here, it's what we faced in Germany - by 'we' of course I mean the progressive Left and everyone else by the way - It's that the belief that this type of political movement can be squashed by anything other than militant aggressive political action has failed in the past, so that's what we need to do we got to bring Liberals on board, they got to own the guns, they have to be practicing at the ranges, they have to be treating political organizing with the same sense of fatalistic engagement that Republicans do, you know. We need people out there as crazy as the republicans in those school board meetings. We need them showing up to all those local town hall groups. We need them to be psychotic, you know break the law I don't give a shit. Don't hurt any innocent people of course, but be wacky, you know, throw some bricks, I don't care. They need to put the fear of God in Republicans. No, we're talking about the the greatest country on earth the God-given U.S. of A, and preventing the takeover of Fascism this is the line? The union organizers in the turn of the 20th century were out there like warring with the police and getting neighborhoods bombed, but that right there like precursor to genocide - 'throw a brick' - that you flinch at? Like this is the issue here. I'm not saying I'm going out there, and you know doing somersaults on cop cars myself. Obviously you know I'm an indoors boy, but we just need that level of energy because there are Liberals... Get out there!" |
Not surprised someone as elitist as Vaush won't bother doing the dirty work himself.
Being psychotic and destroying property is a great electoral strategy btw.
Looks like Vaush was going to lose the bet Destiny proposed. It wouldn't be clear whether democracy is dead or whether Republicans are genocidal maniacs' until +8 year later, and even after it happens regular Americans are incapable of starting a revolution. But the window to prevent this invisible genocide is closing, so we need to engage in radical action fast.
The only ones who can prevent the phantom Fascist genocide are LARPY Leftists who can't muster the effort to be a reliable voter base, and they'll do it by organizing armed Lefty militias and issuing threats of violence.
| "When? There's not just going to be an anti-democracy law you know." [...] "No they don't care about mainstream Republican opinion, they care about the opinion of their constituency, their base supports it. The base supports everything they do. If American democracy is hinged on whether or not you believe the Republicans will continue to vote for Republicans after they attempt to undermine a democracy, they already did. Republicans are going to come out just as strong in 2024." [...] What midterm? What midterm? I don't think you understand, and this is why I use the rhetoric that I do. We're up. Time's up. They attempted a coup in the last election, and they still believe it was right to do so. We're already in the point in the history books where it's getting near too late to do anything. You're talking about 'Well if they revoked our democracy in 2024, by 2026 the republicans that have supported everything they've ever done up to this point would suddenly lose faith', no! Tucker Carlson will talk every single day and night about how anti-democratic it is that it's not possible for Klan members to protest outside of voting booths in black neighborhoods. They will talk endlessly about how the new wave of preliminary voting is an attack on our democracy, and so on and so forth. They'll talk about how new redistricting laws are necessary to preserve the foundation. We won't get another chance here and the problem that I have you say 'If they get rid of our democracy oh then we have a revolution', you won't know the democracy is gone until eight years after it was too late, because we're already right there. The clock's ticking to midnight, and you're talking about how the moderate republicans wouldn't vote for them after they ended democracy. This is what I'm concerned about, you need to be more like me! |
Vaush is a big fan of "The Storm" & "Dark MAGA", I see...
Vaush thinks that we can't persuade people with arguments to make them vote. Looks like Vaush's problem is with how democracy works. Why does he support democracy in the workplace if he thinks it doesn't work for the government?
Imagine claiming to care so much about the mental health of LGBT people, but trying to fearmonger them and make them lose sleep over a fictional genocidal civil war as a political strategy.
| "He got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016. So what happens when the Democrats don't get more than the Republicans, because the Republicans have only ever increased their support. You keep saying if they do something crazy moderate Republicans will lose support, no they didn't. Trump had four years to act like a lunatic, and then more Republicans voted for him. This is why Democrats don't stop Fascism, they abate it temporarily; they're like a wall that you build. You're not getting it, you're not getting it, you're getting bullets. You're not getting a progressive revolution, okay? Bernie lost, we're not getting progressives in the House and Senate." [... Vaush is asked whether it is more likely to mobilize people to vote and give Democrats a crushing victory, than it is to clash with Right Wingers in the streets ...] "I'm only saying we have to be ready for when it does happen. And by the way, you keep saying this is a mutually exclusive thing, it is not. No matter how much you may believe it, the delusion that you can be you can either be electorally effective or like militant but you can't be both is just wrong. Republicans have proven it wrong, Democrats in the past have proven it wrong, it's not true. You can vote, you can advocate, you can be electorally effective. Go appeal to the moderate centrist base but I'll tell you what people vote on they vote on fear more than anything else. People vote when they're afraid, that's why Biden got so many votes because they were afraid of Trump, and we need to start putting the fear of Fascism in people in this country. You want electoral effectiveness, there you go. That's how Republicans get their vote. Tucker Carlson talks every night about how the country is going to die at the hands of immigration. You want people brought over and voting blue, they need to understand that it's milquetoast Liberal Democrats or a boot on their neck. I am both militant and electorally effective in this respect, and if more liberals were we wouldn't have to worry about the Republicans, because they'd be treated like the radical brigand group that they are. But instead Liberals go 'Oh no if we defeat them their ideas are bad and serially if we understand the people they'll be moved over by our arguments', no they won't! Nothing you and I say will." |
What happens when Democrats get less votes is that they lose. It's called democracy. You can't subvert it with a brigand radical group, Vaush.
If Vaush is as electorally effective with his demogoguery as he claims, he should definitely run. I am sure he'll do better than Cenk or Sargon.
Vaush says that dog whistling for violence is good because it is effective.
| "Good. It is effective." [...] "The critical difference is that he [Tucker Carlson] is encouraging violence against LGBT teachers, and I am talking about Fascists trying to kill you." |
Later on, he says that his comparisons to Nazis are so clear that they don't count as dog whistles, and in sophistry claims that he doesn't need to dog whistle because he is right as if you can't dog whistle a correct thing.
Vaush hammers down that Liberals must grow up and realize that they live in the same country with monsters who wants them killed (i.e. Republican voters), and says that fearmongering is good when it is real (such as with climate change and Republicans being sadistic monsters going for blood).
He also compares that actions we need to do with the French resistance in World War II doing guerilla warfare against Nazi occupiers. Of course he neglects to mention that there were Right Wingers in the French Resistance, and they were united because they are dealing with foreign invaders.
| "The problem with what you're talking about right now is a self-perpetuating issue, you know. Liberals are terrified of the realization that they share this country with monsters who would have them killed. Well, that's tough, but we have to grow up. We have to learn that. And fear motivates, and it's legitimate fear. This isn't like Tucker Carlson fearmongering where he makes shit up so that his billionaire masters can get away with another tax cut. This is like climate change type fear, real stuff, really happening, people should be afraid, they should act in that fear. We've been trying to get people afraid of climate change for years and years and years, and you know what? We've done a terrible job of it. In large part because a bunch of people in this country think that it's god's given rapture and they think opposing it is - you know - Sacrilegious. But also because Liberals just aren't cut out for the fear game. They're weak and spineless and made of jelly, but it can be improved. It's possible to improve. You know, the French resistance in World War II wasn't just Liberals - oh sorry it wasn't just Leftists - It was Liberals, it was centrists moderates even, they were united in a hatred of Fascism, and they fought and they died to, well, irritate the Nazi occupants. We need that energy. If we're gonna concede this like - well people aren't engaging with this, you know, 'they're going to kill us rhetoric' then we're already dead. Make it, make it appealing to them. And there is [factual basis to it]." |
Once we get rid of the Republican occupiers, we will adopt the American Pride Flag to spite the Fascists. Vive la Résistance!
Vaush declares Reagan's slow response to the spread of AIDS to be a genocide, he also thinks that hundreds of thousands of people died from AIDS in the 80s.
Vaush gets asked to elaborate on his revolutionary strategies (Vaush chat has been full of pepe memes accompanied with "OF COURSE NOT" and "I disavow", whenever he mentions violence. They know what's up), and Vaush drops a dog whistle by saying Luke must be trying to get his channel banned. He then argues that just like we should not be condemning Jews for using violence against Nazis, we should not condemn Leftists for using violence against Republicans.
We're past the point of preventing Republicans from winning through democracy, lads. Violent counteraction might fail, but we should try it anyway.
| "What are you trying to do, get my channel banned? When people are being killed by the hundreds of thousands, do you seriously think it's unethical to use violence to defend yourself?" [... Vaush is asked if resorting to violence would be ethical in his AIDS example ...] "If you commit hard enough, of course it is ethical. And if you commit hard enough, anything is possible. I'll ask you, do you think we should be chiding the Jews for fighting back - in say - 31, even if you knew through some prophetic ability that their attempts at fighting back would have been ineffective? Because it seems like you're only telling me that self-defense is justifiable if you can know the future, and know that it will work for sure. It's possible that there's nothing we can do this might be a pointless conversation, it's possible that the the the dominoes have already begun to fall; we're not going to stop Republicans from winning and no amount of violent counteraction is going to prevent them from overriding our democracy it might be too late. So at this point I've seen decades of Liberal messaging, and centrist 'Oh bring him over' shit fail. I think we're just past that point. |
I think Vaush's ideal form of government is a one-party-system. And if we have to use violence to get it, then so be it.
When Vaush is told that the violent militia shit isn't good for getting popularity and votes, Vaush says that we should think about it as a matter of life and death, and they can't let Republicans win in elections. He then brings up how it is justified to use violence against Nazis again.
Vaush claims that trans people are currently like Jews being locked up in ghettos before being they are being shipped to Nazi gas chambers.
| "Why is this being framed in electoral terms for you? This is about life and death." [...] "2024 is done. 2024 is a coin flip. Maybe something happens between now and then, but whatever outcomes are going to take place from direct action aren't going to have a significant impact in 2024. I'm talking about what happens no matter who wins that election. Maybe a Dem wins 2024, maybe we have to wait till 2028 for this to be relevant. I don't know, we're probably going to lose pretty hard in 2022 though, so we're not going to get anything done even if we win in 2024. But eventually they're going to get a hold in this; they've been redistricting like hell, every single time they undo something Democrats don't have the power to redo. You know, we need to be ready. And I have to ask you just out of curiosity, when in Germany would you have said violence was okay?" [...] "what about um when the German government started passing laws of restriction on Jewish people and businesses, like specifically designating Jewish people as a separate legal category alongside dehumanizing rhetoric, in order to categorize them separately, and you know, limit their movement, you know, oppress them in a variety of ways. Phat plus dehumanizing language, plus hate crimes start to rise against them, you know, in that environment, because that's where we are right now with trans people. That exact point is where we are in that environment. Do you think it's unfair to go like 'Yeah you should be like ready if they come for you', like, 'They are getting ready for something and you need to be ready you need to arm yourself"? [...] "You think it would be inappropriate for the Jews to have said that back in the early 30s? 'They they want us dead, the Nazis want us all dead'? They were right." |
Ironically, Vaush and Leftists have been weaponizing dehumanizing language, like Nazi, for years and made it their main strategy. CRT, which they reactionarily defend, literally labels whiteness as evil. If anyone is dehumanizing Liberals and Leftists, they don't have political power.
Practically every major corporation celebrates LGBT pride; doesn't exactly signal an impending genocide around the corner. Imagine the average German going to the store in Nazi Germany, and seeing celebrations of Jewish Pride Month.
A journalists in Reagan's time said that AIDS is known as "the gay plague" causing the press pool to laugh, and Reagan's press secretary made jokes about whether anyone in the room caught it. Nowadays everyone in the room would get cancelled. There is far more LGBT acceptance than ever. Imagine a military general saying "Go to that state and round up all the LGBT and Mexican people".
Also, Leftist violence helped Hitler get more power.
Vaush memes more about assassinating Republican politicians is like how Jews should've assassinated Nazis
The Jew's might've been successful in preventing their own extermination if they were radical Leftists like Vaush.
| "When the Holocaust happened anyway, you can't really go back in time and be like 'Well if you'd been more violent a second Holocaust, the Holocaust II, would have happened', no. Actually, I think if Jews back then had simply armed themselves and then killed all of the Nazi party - You know, there were attempts to do that - But I mean full on kick down the door, gun them all down, you know, maybe they get arrested or executed. Oh, killing Nazis? Wait, are we against killing Nazis here? Oh, I made nothing. I made no allegories in this conversation, okay? Sorry, no comparisons, analogies, none whatsoever! But, yes! The Jews - This is unrelated - The Jews might've been successful in preventing their own extermination. Wait, do you agree? Wait, do you agree, that while facing legal persecution, and an anti-democratic party is seizing additional power, the Jews - say 33, 34 - If they had hatched some plot to gun down Hitler, Goebbels, you know, some Nazi upper party meetings. Say it's like in Glorious Bastards, they get invited to a theater, and all just get gunned down in the final act. Something like that. Would that have been wrong? Might have stopped the holocaust. Wait, morally - Do you think it would have been practical? Cause it would have killed -" [... Vaush is told that this doesn't mean it would be practical for a progressive group to do assassinations on Republicans leadership ...] "When did I even imply that? So, let's say in Nazi Germany, so the assassination of political leadership is a very effective way of destabilizing a political movement. I'm just trying to figure out what your threshold is for the Nazis, the ones that we can talk about, okay? So with the Nazis, you know, we have the precursor to a genocide being constructed, you know, 'These people are evil, they want Jews dead, blah blah' At what point, you know? Because the the the alt-fiction 'What if like a resistance group had killed Hitler before the holocaust', this is something Liberals have been jerking off to for almost a century now. When would it have been acceptable if that assassination had led to destabilization, internal turmoil, and then eventually like a restoration of democracy? It would have been messy I'm sure but better than world war II." [...] "You think it is impossible? There are examples all the time of a government seizes power, and then shortly afterwards the leadership of that government is killed by insurgents or radicals or by a conflicting faction, and then there's an internal power struggle and someone else takes power. I don't think anyone worse than the Nazis could take power, that's pretty much like the war. That's about as bad as it gets, so whoever would have taken power afterwards probably wouldn't have done the Holocaust, and probably wouldn't have started World War II, or at the very least when those things happened it would have been like a much lesser context." |
Imagine hiding behind the Holocaust and a thin veneer of irony, because assassinating Nazis is what "we can talk about" when asked to elaborate what should happen to Republicans today.
Vaush disavows political violence with a smile on his face when asked about assassinating Trump, and then compares Trump to Hitler, and says we should learn from history how Fascists like Nazis are not the type to be dislodged through any type to civil protest, and that it is justified to kill them.
| "Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa, I don't believe in political violence, come on! I think that both of them were about comparable in the extent that like there were other political forces that wanted power, and through him they were able to achieve it because he was like a populist." [... Luke promises Vaush to avoid language the violates the ToS ...] "No no no, you have to be in the ground game, right? We're in the ground game right now. Right now we have the benefit of looking back on the Nazis and thinking 'Oh maybe if this chess piece had been moved here', but if you were THERE! I mean at what point do you get to thinking 'Wow the Nazis are really bad, and they're not going to be dislodged through any kind of civil protest, we should just kill them'? |
If we can prove Vaush supports political violence, this means that he supports assassinating Trump
.What is the ideal political messaging according to Vaush? A message of feat and terror. He talks shit about Biden too, and admits he is fearmongering about Republicans because he can't get people to vote for Biden. Anyone who says that Republicans won't commit a Holocaust believes in American exceptionalism.
Luke tries to tell him that this is a bad idea and it makes him look like a psychopath, and Vaush loses it and accuses Luke of being a psyop for questioning that Republicans are Fascists plotting a genocide as they speak. Rhetoric not based on fearmongering is so incompetent that it is fucked up. Vaush is told that his fearmongering and incitement to violence is so batshit insane it will turn people off, and Vaush says these people can die.
| [We should be broadcasting] "A message of fear and terror. We're not going to get the ideal political leader, but we do have the ideal enemy, so we should be focusing on them. This is what the Democrats don't understand, Republicans don't talk about what they want to do, they talk about what the Democrats are doing. They get people motivated through fear, and Democrats only ever talk about their own positions. 'Oh well we want to do this and that'. Nobody cares and nobody gives a fuck about politics! With terror! Deserved terror! This isn't lying, we don't have to lie." [... Vaush is told Democrats have been fearmongering about Trump ...] "Not even close to enough, not enough. Biden didn't even talk about Clarence Thomas, his wife. Biden is a pussy. That's what we've got, yeah, that's what we're dealing with right there. I'm not saying that you're just like him, I'm sure you're far farther left than him. I'm only saying that we're not getting the ideal progressive candidate, with the ideal progressive message, and the ideal progressive party to back it up. All we have right now is this shit, so I can't convince people that Biden's great; I just can't. But I can convince them, legitimately, that the Republicans are dangerous, and I need people to fixate on that, and I need them to be armed, and I need their communities armed - No see, this is, you don't understand because, no no no, this is American exceptionalism. You are of the opinion that it can't happen here. It can happen here." [...] "I'm a warrior for Biden. Yeah, the Left is worse; the Right understands that fear and violence are the ways that you control a political group." [... Vaush is told that it is not a good look to look like the people he is warning of ...] "Then let them die. Then they will perish. They have to be strong." [...] "You are wrong in believing that people and rhetoric like me are harmful to our coalition. Fear is what got people to vote for Biden." [...] "This is an aesthetic concern. This is a fleeting aesthetic concern. What, we sound like them because they say that they need to go and what kill or legally oppress trans people, and I say trans people need to defend themselves against their oppressors? if a Liberal hears those two things and they sound no different, they deserve to die when the Fascist mobs come. A Liberal is worthless - No stop, stop. I have been exceptionally patient, but I'm going to lose it now. You continue to believe that civility politics is a necessary component of marketing to Liberals, and you are doing this by perpetuating the fact that Liberal civility politics is necessary to speak with them. If your audience would be turned off by the belief that you should be able to defend yourself against Fascism, change your audience. You don't understand, you believe it harms us in any way to engage in the kind of defensive rhetoric that Republicans have been using successfully for decades. You have fallen for it, you are a psyop. You believe - they're telling you, they're whispering in your ear 'Yes, don't tell them that we're going to kill them. Don't let them believe they need to defend themselves against Fascism. You would only hurt your movement by doing the thing that we've done successfully', you're falling for it, You're COINTELPRO, my friend. Not really, I don't want to be accused of making these accusations sincerely, but it is frustrating. Independence will be moved by the rhetoric they hear. Republicans have moved a lot of people with theirs. It's time for us to wake up realize - Our rhetoric is fucked because we don't spend enough time fearmongering." |
Republicans have been successful in their messaging because they can counter the woke shit the Democrats are leaning on. Instead of encouraging Democrats to revise their strategy, Leftists should turn to stochastic terrorism.
Imagine if a paranoid schizo person like Vaush is controlling a political group through fear and violence.
Vaush says that the only reason people on the left and center would be turned off by his messaging is that they haven't been introduced to enough of it yet. Yeah, if we repeat his messaging enough times, people will become radical commies; we need to gaslight them enough.
He also repeats that Democrat voters are dumb and spineless for using voting as their strategy for change. Such trust in the democratic system.
| "The only reason people on the left and center are turned off by my messaging is because they haven't been introduced to enough of it yet, so introduce it to them more. Get them more familiar with it, okay? It's not my fault that the Democratic Party has made it their mission to coddle and weaken their voters to the greatest possible extent, and now you have millions of Americans; these embarrassing, you know, urbanite Liberals whose best response to everything the Republicans do to undermine democracy is 'We'll vote harder next time', no you won't. You're not going to get to the voting booths. You're not going to get a chance. No political body is effective or relevant without a plan for how to deal with the end of the democracy that their party exists in. The republicans are ready and waiting, where the fuck are we?" [... Vaush is told that there is not enough evidence democracy is going away, or that Republicans are bloodlusted and looking forward to mass murder ...] "Then you are a stooge. No, you keep saying 'kill people'; you have a child's understanding of how genocide takes place. I encourage you yes to look up the history of Nazi Germany, because it was apparent from our conversation that you don't have any historical allegories for how genocide takes place." [... Vaush is asked to stop being vague and clarify where the line for violence is ...] "Violence started the moment the declaration was signed. What I'm talking about isn't a beginning to violence; it is a beginning to the defense against violence which has taken place. We live in a system built by violence, political violence, when cops enact laws passed by political agents acting on the behalf of their corporate masters they are acting violently. What we're talking about is social violence, social violence against minorities, sometimes legitimate sometimes illegitimate, is it done through the purview of acceptable legislation or was it done targeted to hit them, it's difficult to say but what's happening right now with this LGBTQ bill wave across the states is pretty unambiguously unjustified. a very deliberate targeting and this is how - this isn't how it starts this is the middle point." |
He attempts a cop out with 'technically everything is violence, including voting'. But if you ask him if overthrowing the U.S. government is acceptance violence, or assassinating U.S. political figures is acceptable violence, he'll answer in the affirmative or at least dog whistle for it.
Also I am interesting to hear examples of legitimate social violence against minorities according to Vaush. Social violence includes terrorism by the way.
Does he seriously think that mild milquetoast parental rights bill (aka. Don't Say Gay bill) almost everyone agrees with puts us on the path of genocide and Fascism?
Which one of you is ready to subscribe to DeSantis' child kill count quotas text messaging service?
1:24:44 - 1:25:44
| "You need to be fully aware of the fact that democracies have failed in other countries, and they can fail here too. There's no reason it can't, nothing can keep it from not happening here. That will you do when democracy falls? The Republicans are ready, they have armories, they have a political party that is not only ready for but currently enacting the end of democracy. What are Democrats - 'Oh we'll get them next time' Democrats - They're not going to do anything. You have to act for yourself. You don't have this central messaging to rely on like they do. When the democracy fails, Republicans will be getting their updates from DeSantis on like, you know, how many children they should be killing that day. We will need to be figuring out how many - will be figuring out our own stats, without direct leadership, because Democrats are not set up in such a way as to orchestrate that kind of post-democratic system. I hope you will excuse the hyperbole there, but the underlying message was something i sincerely believe in." |
The Grand Old Party, the party of tradition, is fully prepared to orchestrate the fall of Rome and traditional institution. Let's go!
Vaush claims that the average Conservative thinks that the mainstream Liberal establishment is plotting to mass murder Conservatives, and says that he is just copying the messaging of these crazy paranoid Conservatives while being right. Vaush praises those crazy paranoid Conservative for having the will to go through with defensive mass murder unlike Liberals.
If a Right Winger was publicly using the same rhetoric Vaush is using, Three-letter Agencies would be at their doorstep within the week.
When is the last time Vaush touched grass? Does he actually listen to talk radio? Who actually listens to talk radio nowadays?
| "Why does the average Conservative go for it then? Why does the average conservative - The belief that the Liberal establishment is going to kill them is literally a mainstream Republican belief. Like Q-Anon being one thing at all, but like the idea that like literally like, Conservatives have long said stuff like 'They want you dead'. I am borrowing their messaging, I'm just right when I use it. And they believe it, and they act on it. Why are Liberals so weak? Why are they unwilling to act righteously, where Republicans for less evidence act unrighteously? Why are they so much more active and willing even when they're wrong to do so? [... Vaush is told that they are at least subtle about it unlike him ...] Dude go on talk radio, they say insane shit on talk radio. Wild shit. There is less restrictions there when it comes to, you know, what you can get away with. They say wild shit. [...] Call me Vaush Limbaugh. |
He loves the "Vaush Limbaugh" nickname. Better find something else bros. Vaush Fuentes?
Vaush says that Democrats have been deliberately grooming their voter base to be weak and unwilling to participate in violent insurgency. I thought the word groomers had no meaning other than pedos.
| "They're spooked by guns. An other reason I hate Democrats. It's like they've been spending the past half century deliberately grooming their voter constituency into being the weakest, most vulnerable to Fascist group of babies in the universe. |
I think we can agree that the Democratic Party is a party of groomers.
Vaush (temporarily; he says even more shocking statements in defense of terrorism at the end) becomes a doomer, and says that realistically this LARPY violent revolutionary shit he has been justifying is too little too late, because US institutions are too strong and will endure even if we assassinate the president, therefore attempts at insurrections wouldn't be effective and we can't prevent a dystopian civil war and a Fascist take over, and the best thing Leftists can do is turtle up in their neighborhood as they get genocided.
Great message to get Leftists voting, Vaush. The January 6th riots now sounds less scary.
| "I didn't say violent revolution, I just said neighborhood defense." [... Vaush is told to stop gaslighting ...] "Not in this convo, I haven't used the word! Realistically by the way, you know, in terms of actual insurrectionary efforts - To put aside all the memeing, I don't actually think they're really possible. Obviously, like you know, Jan 6 aside, the idea of any coordinated political violence actually like cutting the head off of a political establishment in America would be basically impossible. It's just not something that can really be done, also there are so many subsidiaries and backup systems too, like, ensure that the presidency would continue moving forward that it wouldn't actually - Like, it would be largely ineffective. The most useful thing that you could actually get armed Leftists and Liberals to do would be to hold out their communities when civil fighting takes place between militia groups and local neighborhoods, following any kind of conflict between federal and state legislation. So the best example of this would be if the federal government passes some radically oppressive rule that a progressive state government doesn't want to follow, and there's conflict within and without the state as to whether or not that law will actually be followed; that conflict will lead to pockets of insurrectionary activity and lawlessness where Right Wing groups militias, and probably cops, will work together in order to effectively secure areas under the de facto martial law, and in those environments it is kill or be killed, and in those environments I hope my people have guns, and by my people I mean 250 million Americans who don't vote red. That's mostly what I'm talking about, and whether or not they win in those pockets will play a large role in who wins over the state government, and whether or not the state government succeeds in resisting the federal will, will determine whether or not some broader action has to be taken like sending in the military, but the military is majority Democrat, which makes me think they would try to stay on the side of any internal conflict. Plus sending US troops to resolve internal disputes has always been kind of a touchy issue politically. That's what I'm really talking about, so that right there, that's the actual like - in my mind - loosely what usefulness there might be to being defensive, in in the context of like the end of democracy here in the States. does that make sense?" |
Nice fan fiction bro, and no it doesn't make sense.
Vaush is asked about Mr. Girl, and he looks tense (properly anticipating a pedophilia question). Vaush then proceeds to describe himself as he is dissing Mr. Girl without any self-awareness.
| "I haven't really consumed any content of his or seen him at all, outside of a video done Mr Lalonda - Old Man Lalanda or something like that - which talked about how he's like an abuser to his girlfriend, and a pedophile, and blah blah. I don't really know the specifics. The impression that I get of him - Old Man Londre, thank you - is that he's a legitimately bad person, in a bunch of ways. But he's not stupid, and he knows that he can monetize that by leaning into it enough that his behavior comes across as self-referential and ironic. So it's a really common strat for, like, sexist people to, like, they actually do kind of dislike women but they'll make like over-the-top sexist jokes in a way where it's like 'Oh it's a joke obviously', but, you know, well does he actually think like half of that or whatever? With him, I don't know what the relationship is between x and y, but it's basically just a rehash of standard conservative 'I'm joking, I'm not joking' shit. He comes across as like really really weird to me, but he seems to be pretty genuinely like a pretty scummy person, so yeah, I don't know." [... Asked about Mr. Girl discussing pedophilia to challenge norms ...] "You are not alone in feeling that way. Again, it's basically like the 'I'm just asking questions', right? So like when Neo-Nazis want to advocate for their positions, instead of, like, outright stating anything normatively convincing, they'll just ask, like, leading questions that try to bait you into certain, like, discussions where you have to, like, talk about their moral premises without them having to assume any of the positions you have to argue against to express your opinion? Yeah, it's pretty standard stuff. I don't know, it's pretty weird. We've done this song and dance before with Amos Yee back in, like, 2018. Were you around for? You look younger than me. He's a Singaporean guy, he was friends with Sargon of Akkad, he was a not-pedophile who very adamantly argued about how the age of consent was oppressive, or whatever the fuck, and then he got arrested for CP, like a year ago or something. Funnily, Destiny was one of the people who said this is bullshit the Skeptics are giving cover to this pedophile by being buddy buddy with him, and not taking the argument seriously. 'I will take the argument seriously', so. The grand scales of reality you know tilt ever more in someone's favor, not mine certainly." |
Vaush is very twitchy regarding the Pedo Question.
Vaush talks about how we need to reject American exceptionalism, and how the US inspired Nazis through eugenics (even though eugenics started as a Leftist progressive movement).
Vaush says that the only thing Democrats can do is hold the line while LARPY Leftists prepare to fight the Fascists. He says they need to explore alternatives to voting against Republicans, whether it is radical action, direct action, or preparation for self-defense.
He says that his position regarding violence becomes incredibly clear when we compare Republicans to Nazis during the Holocaust; it is so clear that he doesn't consider his call to violence to be dog whistling. He says that it is easy to make sense of his position, because we gun down Nazi soldiers in video games as resistance fighters.
He says that all violence Leftist do is by definition self-defense; it is impossible to consider Leftist insurrectionists to not be acting in self-defense because they are defending against genocide.
He admits that the Buffalo shooter likewise thought he was acting in self-defense too, but the difference is that the Buffalo shooter was wrong about white genocide, but Vaush is right about LGBT genocide.
| "It's a multi-decade process? No, SocDem Left, history moves quickly my friend. We don't have multiple decades, we have several years. Electoralism is fucked. We're done. We're done-so, folks. All we get with Democrats is we hold the line a little while longer, which is what we're going to be doing with canvassing by the way, holding that line gives us incredibly valuable time, but that's all it is. Time. We're only buying time. Republicans are explicitly anti-democratic, and every year that passes they do everything they can to subtly tip the scales of power more into their hands. When next, the elections arrive on every level local, state, federal, judiciary, whatever, it doesn't matter they are working against us, and the Democrats are weak. They're spineless, they're made of jelly, they are not capable of defending us the way we deserve defense. So we can't trust them to tip the scales back the way we would want them to. We need to explore alternate solutions, whether that be radical action, or direct action, or preparation for self-defense, or hell all of them. It is something that needs to be done. And I don't like the accusations of dog whistling, because I have never dog whistled. I make jokes, but my positions have always been incredibly clear. Everyone is in favor of political violence because everyone supports some kind of political violence. People just draw the lines at different points, and i have always been a radical advocate for self-defense; a position that I'm proud to take unashamedly. And by the way, I have to say I do think it is remarkable how evident and how - no, how self-evident - my position is, because when you analogize it over to the Nazis, all of a sudden everything becomes clear. You understand what I mean? Like, in America, you know, it's all very this and that. But if you if you're, like, okay 'take all these things that are happening right now', but at that point in the Holocaust, like right there, and it's like 'Oh yeah of course then'. Set video games where you're a resistance fighter gunning down Nazi soldiers, like all of a sudden radical in retrospect, passive and submissive currently. Very bad strategy for winning any kind of political battle. Why don't you dog whistle more? I don't need to. I'm right. Also there's nothing wrong with advocating for self-defense. Everything that I have advocated for in this stream has been perfectly in line, not only with my and everyone's moral code, but with the legal rights enshrined in the United States' Book of Laws. We all have a right to self-defense, we have a right to gun ownership. I'm perfectly happy to advocate for those things. I do regular whistling here, no dog whistling. I don't need to dog whistle to advocate for self-defense. But you were Pepe posting about implied active violence? All violence we enact in our cause is defensive, because everything that I have said throughout this conversation has been 'We should prevent a genocide'. In that context everything that I say is in reference to the concept of political self-defense. Active violence implies that we are the aggressor or the initiator which is under the current set of circumstances virtually impossible. You know the shooter in buffalo thought he was acting defensively? He thought when he mowed down 10 people, innocent people, in a supermarket that he was acting to defend the white race, blah blah. The advocacy for defensive action is by far the ubiquitously applied standard for justifying any kind of violence. There is a critical distinction of course, an important one that people will often overlook, and it's that I'm right. We're right. And he was wrong. White people are not under threat by immigration, white people today enjoy as a product of immigration a higher standard of living in almost every imaginable way than they would otherwise, and whatever ways in which white people suffer now that they did not a century ago are not a product of immigration. It is a clean sweep, whereas my advocacy, my belief that we are under attack is demonstrated in the explicit and unambiguous intended behavior of all the people who legislate from the Republican side. So Vaush, if immigration was a threat to white people would he be right? A threat to white people in what sense? Like a threat to white people being able to eat at Arby's? Because all the Arby's got closed down? No a threat to white people is a deliberately ambiguous statement. If you were to say white people were under threat of genocide as a product of immigration, then sure. And meanwhile while we're in fantasy land - Like no, of course not. Real genocide, by the way, not white genocide. What was that thing Sean said in his video, white privilege must be real, whites even get the nice version of genocide, where, like, nobody's hurt? There's just like more brown people in your country? No no, you'd have to justify the real harm there, and significant enough harm, and also and no other avenue is available or possible." |
When you thought the craziness can't peak more. But it did right at the end.
If someone was to make a supercut, which quotes do you recommend to be included? The Buffalo shooter statement is a must.
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