Victor Mignogna v. Funimation Productions, LLC, et al. (2019) - Vic's lawsuit against Funimation, VAs, and others, for over a million dollars.

[Your Average Soyboy]

https://twitter.com/dumbcerb/status/1136075969306005509?s=21

http://archive.li/oUds9

Out of all the things you could attack the #Istandwithvic side it's literally one piece of text. Your side has a woman literally running away from the law, and a man inciting more reasons to be sued.

This poor guy's brain must've become completely fried from retweeting furry porn to think that this somehow invalidates an entire legal case.

"I, a degenerate furfag, think that this statement is ridiculous, so I deign it to not be defamation!"

Yeah bud, if you want to see something ridiculous, just look in the mirror.

 

[DragoonSierra]

If Casey or his clients file the TCPA after promising the Judge that they wouldn't, the Judge could and likely would simply go "fine, the TCPS motion hearing is tomorrow" then release his orders regarding it the following day. Casey sure as shit wouldn't be able to complain if the Judge suddenly fast tracked him. He filed the motion, which means he is prepared to proceed immediately on it. And BHBH sure as shit wouldn't interfere with the opposition when they were fucking themselves. They likely already have answers to TCPA written and drafted and prepped. And everybody already knows MoRonica's TCPA motion to dismiss will fail. Casey sure as shit knows it. If it had a prayer of succeeding he would have dropped it BEFORE these discovery arguments came up. He noticed for deposition. There was no reason to do that if you had even an outside chance with TCPA. He knows it's doomed. Beard knows it's doomed, and the Judge likely already knows it's doomed. He's read the initial filings. The Judge just listens to Casey whine for a half hour, then writes up "we find the plaintiff's filings present sufficient cause of action to proceed". Done.

Couldnt that be appealed to waste more time?

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

Couldnt that be appealed to waste more time?

It can, but the judge could call for a hearing on the next available date (fucking hilarious if its just the next day) to settle the appeal and approve/deny it based on the strength of their reasoning. With how things are going so far? They'd get maybe a few weeks to a month of no discovery maximum before the judge tells them to fuck off and get on with it.

 

[RodgerDodger]

Couldnt that be appealed to waste more time?

Yes, but that will happen anyway when the TCPA gets tossed. which it is going to. A ruling dismissing the TCPA will simply be a finding that the Plaintiff met the burdens of having reasonable cause or causes of action, and that if assumed to be true would be a cause of measurable damages requiring relief. Anti-SLAPP motions that get shot down don't generally tend to get far on appeal. Remember at heart the purpose of an Anti-SLAPP/TCPA statute is to streamline the process and trim bs out of the court system. Not foul it up with more. The whole purpose is to quickly determine if it is bullshit, and if not move on with the proceedings.

 

[AnOminous]

It can, but the judge could call for a hearing on the next available date (fucking hilarious if its just the next day) to settle the appeal and approve/deny it based on the strength of their reasoning. With how things are going so far? They'd get maybe a few weeks to a month of no discovery maximum before the judge tells them to fuck off and get on with it.

An appeal goes to a higher court, and TCPA denials are immediately appealable. This does, in fact, delay the case by a few months, and IMO it's going to happen when the TCPA is denied. It could also go up another level of appeals, and then to SCOTUS.

 

[RodgerDodger]

This poor guy's brain must've become completely fried from retweeting furry porn to think that this somehow invalidates an entire legal case.

"I, a degenerate furfag, think that this statement is ridiculous, so I deign it to not be defamation!"

Yeah bud, if you want to see something ridiculous, just look in the mirror.

These morons do realize that that particular comment is not even entered into the lawsuit as of yet?

 

[PrinceofAllCucks]

An appeal goes to a higher court, and TCPA denials are immediately appealable. This does, in fact, delay the case by a few months, and IMO it's going to happen when the TCPA is denied. It could also go up another level of appeals, and then to SCOTUS.

My guess was in reference to how long it would take for the initial TCPA to be denied, apologies for not being clear.

 

[repentance]

An appeal goes to a higher court, and TCPA denials are immediately appealable. This does, in fact, delay the case by a few months, and IMO it's going to happen when the TCPA is denied. It could also go up another level of appeals, and then to SCOTUS.

How much would taking that route cost them financially?

 

[RodgerDodger]

How much would taking that route cost them financially?

A lot! Just the TCPA filing and hearing probably adds another $10-15k onto the defendants bill. Filing an appeal on it probably pisses away another $30k. The initial dice roll on TCPA might be worth a shot for a well funded defendant as it can reclaim legal costs if it succeeds. But the chances of overcoming a denied TCPA motion on appeal are quite slim. Marchi or Funimation might have a slight chance regarding a TCPA. But Ron and Monica have NONE. That TI is gonna bury them.

 

[Zbk3VmLfujjzjxBd43tL]

MoRon don't seem to realize that playing the delay game in court is for multibillion dollar corporations and not a random voice actress and her pet finance cuck. Or maybe they're just taking one for the team (Iago?) and are draining Vic's finances so fewer people will get destroyed in court.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

Or maybe they're just taking one for the team (Iago?) and are draining Vic's finances so fewer people will get destroyed in court.

Highly doubtful. They themselves probably lack the funds to continue chasing a fools errand. They maybe stupid, but I doubt they are suicidal, and committing financial suicide is not the type of thing I expect self-centered narcissists to push for. Ultimately, any stalling tactics on their part will mean little if Funimation quickly settles and just feeds back into the war chest, not even counting what Vic will continue to get from the money he raises.

 

[AnOminous]

My guess was in reference to how long it would take for the initial TCPA to be denied, apologies for not being clear.

No issue there, it's a good question. The TCPA is going to be denied. This will probably be accompanied by a written opinion explaining why, and this will almost certainly have Judge Chupp's reasoning as to why the case has merit.

At this point, sensible defendants will shit their pants and try to find some way to settle.

But we don't have sensible defendants. Shit may just get even more insane at that point.

 

[CheezzyMach]

No issue there, it's a good question. The TCPA is going to be denied. This will probably be accompanied by a written opinion explaining why, and this will almost certainly have Judge Chupp's reasoning as to why the case has merit.

At this point, sensible defendants will shit their pants and try to find some way to settle.

But we don't have sensible defendants. Shit may just get even more insane at that point.

I'm still thinking Rial,Toye and Marchi are going to end up hilariously turning on and cannibalizing each other like a nest of spiders.

 

[AnOminous]

I'm still thinking Rial,Toye and Marchi are going to end up hilariously turning on and cannibalizing each other.

That's already happening. MoRon's first response basically threw everyone but MoRon under the bus. I was actually kind of surprised at how dumbly it did that. I am amazed at Casey's lack of long term strategy. I hope he got all his money up front because he has NO long-term strategy and blew his load with his initial filing.

Please, Nick, at some point say what you think his strategy was, because I am absolutely baffled as to what the fuck Casey's intention was with that pile of gibberish.

 

[TheClappening]

I'm still thinking Rial,Toye and Marchi are going to end up hilariously turning on and cannibalizing each other like a nest of spiders.

Marchi's probably the first to fold. She has the least money to defend herself. MoRon are splitting the cost two ways (and I think Monica is more popular and is worth more on her lonesome, anyway) and Funimation is a multimillion dollar company. Dunno how much Marchi's fiance is going to finance this circus.

Granted Funimation has the most to lose if they want to drag out the case. They're not protected by the debt laws since they're a company, so they can be on the hook for the majority of a judgment. And I'm sure they would get a lot of goodwill by retracting their Vic statements and reopening possibilities to work with Vic again. Moreso than the people who would throw a hissy fit for supporting Vic again.

 

[kadoink]

So, I'm gonna put a thought out there, What if MoRon have been given some defense funds from Funi/friends at Funi?Knowing how stupid their group of smucklers is I'm wondering if they were given some extra green for their defense. While I doubt it, the thing is that ti is a possibility.

 

[repentance]

That's already happening. MoRon's first response basically threw everyone but MoRon under the bus. I was actually kind of surprised at how dumbly it did that. I am amazed at Casey's lack of long term strategy. I hope he got all his money up front because he has NO long-term strategy and blew his load with his initial filing.

Please, Nick, at some point say what you think his strategy was, because I am absolutely baffled as to what the fuck Casey's intention was with that pile of gibberish.

I keep forgetting to ask you about this. As Monica and Ron are separate defendants, does that mean that they could file separate TCPAs? I can't see any advantage to them doing that, but we're about to start hitting the time when they will be treated more separately by the plaintiffs so it just struck me that they don't really have to act in unison.

Granted Funimation has the most to lose if they want to drag out the case. They're not protected by the debt laws since they're a company, so they can be on the hook for the majority of a judgment. And I'm sure they would get a lot of goodwill by retracting their Vic statements and reopening possibilities to work with Vic again. Moreso than the people who would throw a hissy fit for supporting Vic again.

If Funi settles, they cannot recover any money from their co-defendants. If they pay a judgement, though, they can pursue the co-defendants for some of that money.

From a purely financial viewpoint, Funi can afford either option so they will act in their own best interest. It's hard to know what they think that will be, but it should become more apparent once they've filed their answer and their responses to interrogtories and document requests.

 

[ErbBetaPatch]

I keep forgetting to ask you about this. As Monica and Ron are separate defendants, does that mean that they could file separate TCPAs? I can't see any advantage to them doing that, but we're about to start hitting the time when they will be treated more separately by the plaintiffs so it just struck me that they don't really have to act in unison.

Probably not, since they're represented by the same counsel.

 

[TheClappening]

If Funi settles, they cannot recover any money from their co-defendants. If they pay a judgement, though, they can pursue the co-defendants for some of that money.

From a purely financial viewpoint, Funi can afford either option so they will act in their own best interest. It's hard to know what they think that will be, but it should become more apparent once they've filed their answer and their responses to interrogtories and document requests.

At the same time, I'm sure a settlement would be lower than if they decided to go through with the case, and internal communications would be allowed to remain private if they settle before the discovery dates. Then again some stuff (like the investigation) are inevitably going to be public because of MoRon.

I honestly don't see a downside for a settlement. I don't think they're on the hook for either of the tortoise interference claims, and even if they settle to lift their ban on Vic they don't necessarily have to contract him again if they want to virtue signal more.

 

[ErbBetaPatch]

At the same time, I'm sure a settlement would be lower than if they decided to go through with the case, and internal communications would be allowed to remain private if they settle before the discovery dates. Then again some stuff (like the investigation) are inevitably going to be public because of MoRon.

I honestly don't see a downside for a settlement. I don't think they're on the hook for either of the tortoise interference claims, and even if they settle to lift their ban on Vic they don't necessarily have to contract him again if they want to virtue signal more.

If Funimation has to pay millions to vic, they're not going to easily recover that from the brain trust that is moron and jam.

I'll bet 30 B=D on Funimation settling after the Moron depos. If i was funi I wouldn't want to be jointly liable for the campaign these idjits ran