Video Game Chat Thread - Pre-Alpha Experimental Version

Are videogames for children?


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It is what it is. I think MISERY looks fun and they'll probably get their shit back soon.
I thankfully managed to get the game yesterday. The gameplay loop is fun and it's a breath of fresh air in an aesthetic I crave. It's an unpolished gem however and still has a long way to go before being a finished product.

I hope that this whole situation doesn't demotivate the, keep in mind, single 19-year old developer who's behind this game.


I almost wonder if the people who made the MISERY mod for Call of Pripyat are behind this. Mod devs seem to be weirdly litigious.
I would not be surprised. Mod developers for most games are utter egoistic asshats and this wouldn't be the most ridiculous spergout on the modding community's account.

However going back to earth, GSC doesn't give a flying fuck about their community nowadays and the participation of Misery's (the mod) modding team is very unlikely.
 
I thankfully managed to get the game yesterday. The gameplay loop is fun and it's a breath of fresh air in an aesthetic I crave. It's an unpolished gem however and still has a long way to go before being a finished product.

I hope that this whole situation doesn't demotivate the, keep in mind, single 19-year old developer who's behind this game.
I never played STALKER 2, so I don't know if there is any basis for the stolen assets claim. Based on what happened with Dark & Darker and their lawsuit, I'm inclined to think it's all stupid wind-pissing. I hope the dev keeps his cool and handles it like an adult.
 
Stalker 2 is a dead gay game anyways. The main reason people like Stalker is the world sim stuff and half a year after release GSC has completed failed at implementing any form of A Life into Unreal 5.

Atm it has some extremely basic trigger based shit like "if you get within certain distance to building then two raiders spawn" but nothing even close to what old Stalker games have and it likely never will.
 
The only "stolen asset" in MISERY is their cover of the song Цыганочка (Tsyganochka, "Gypsy Girl"). A Russian folk song from the 18th century.

Here's a comparison:

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl (2007)

MISERY (2025)
 
MAJOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE MISERY TAKEDOWN!

The full DMCA e-mail has been posted by the game's creator on Steam.
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The E-mail (note that this e-mail is one sent by Steam, notifying of the takedown):
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The first section that interests us is right at the beginning, where there are examples of original and infringing content. Judge for yourself.

The second, more important section is near the end, "CONTENT BEING REPORTED":
This unauthorized use specifically includes our plot, individual scenes, design, artwork, scenarios, and branding are designed to directly reference and capitalize on our copyrighted work without authorization, which is why we consider the entire podcast to be an infringing deliverable. Please be advised that GSC has not granted permission to neither Platypus Entertainment or Ytopia as well as any individuals associated with above-mentioned developer and publisher for the use of our intellectual property. Furthermore, users in the reviews section specifically refer to the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game franchise. This is why we consider the entire game to be an infringing deliverable.

It does not need to be said, but this is RETARDED.
None of the content mentioned in the reasoning is actually in Misery. The games don't share the plot, they don't share locations and they don't share whatever the fuck they mean with "design", "artwork" or "branding". In essence, based off the e-mail, they are trying to copyright Soviet aesthetics of Khrushchevkas, run-down military installation, villages and fucking CAMPFIRES. This is included in literally HUNDREDS of games. For example GSC could as well sue Activision for including Pripyat in their 2007 Call of Duty.

However, the cherry on the cake is the second-to-last sentence, which says, and I quote:
Furthermore, users in the reviews section specifically refer to the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. game franchise.
It just speaks for itself.

The Predditors over at r/Stalker are already in full damage control mode, claiming the e-mail is faked, is badly translated (as if a lawyer couldn't speak English) and your average run-of-the-mill accusations that don't have anything to do with the DMCA.
And then there are the ones who suddenly say it's SNCA, because it's not going in their favor anymore.

I will definitely be monitoring this situation closely.
 
This whole DayZ/Tarkov/Stalker demographic is something special. Even when they finally get a new game, they manage to make a controversy out of that too.
 
I never played Banjo Kazooie as a kid, I only got around to emulating and loving Mario 64. What fascinates me about Banjo is that it has something no modern game does, an absolutely annoying Hub world! Grunty’s lair a pain in the ass to navigate! I had to give up and search how to get to the third level.

I will never play Banjo Tooie because I hear the levels are even bigger and more bullshit involved.
 
I never played Banjo Kazooie as a kid, I only got around to emulating and loving Mario 64. What fascinates me about Banjo is that it has something no modern game does, an absolutely annoying Hub world! Grunty’s lair a pain in the ass to navigate! I had to give up and search how to get to the third level.

I will never play Banjo Tooie because I hear the levels are even bigger and more bullshit involved.
Absolute skill issue, those two games are amazing.
 
Absolute skill issue, those two games are amazing.
Oh BK1 is amazing I’m having a great time. But I’d be lying if I didn’t claim I’d like a map for Grunty’s Lair. I mean it’s just easy to not see shit thanks to the camera system not being a full 360 degrees.

Taking a break from Clanker’s Cavern because I’m not fond of all the swimming. But I’m pretty sure I’ll beat the game sometime this week.
 
Oh BK1 is amazing I’m having a great time. But I’d be lying if I didn’t claim I’d like a map for Grunty’s Lair. I mean it’s just easy to not see shit thanks to the camera system not being a full 360 degrees.

Taking a break from Clanker’s Cavern because I’m not fond of all the swimming. But I’m pretty sure I’ll beat the game sometime this week.
Godspeed, I highly recommend Tooie, if not just to experience it. I haven't played it recently but it was one of my favorites as a kid especially with its multiplayer mode and playing with friends.
 
I just saw that American Krogan got his Youtube channel back:
Cool to see him return. Yeah, I believe he started having financial issues after getting banned in 2019 and left around late 2023 before completing his Starfield video. That said, I'm not paying to listen to a podcast and I hope he finds his niche again.
 
I just saw that American Krogan got his Youtube channel back:
While I understand that nobody owes me entertainment, it was really disheartening when he nuked all his shit and noped off the internet when it became clear he could no longer get paid. Quitting I get, sure, but deleting everything in a huff and storming off? It would have been one thing if he was under threat of doxing or something, but I can't recall him ever hinting at there being any sort of leverage other than the inability to grift.

Well... good luck in his new endeavors, I guess.
 
Another game roundup.

V Rising
Had planned to play this alone but a couple friends were interested so I rented a server and we ended up having a really good time. I'm currently fully kitted out and waiting for them to catch up so we can fight Dracula together, but the game was better than I remembered and all the updates since I played back in early access were very welcome additions.

Halo 3: ODST
I am not and have never been a Halo guy, and have been slowly chipping away at the campaigns over the years without any of the nostalgia a lot of people have for the franchise. I've played 1, 2, Reach (my favorite so far) and now this, and this was a bit meh. The campaign style was a neat change, but walking around the city between missions felt like it was added more for padding than a cool narrative structure, and a lot of the missions felt like staying to fight in a lot of cases was a waste of time vs. just rushing past.

Crystal Project
I love JRPGs, I love open world games, I felt like this should be a slam dunk for me especially with all the praise it gets. Unfortunately after 8 hours or so I've decided to shelve it for now as I just was not having that much fun. Turns out I need a bit more structure and a bit less grind than what the game provides to really mesh with it. What finally pushed me to putting it away for the time being was what feels like a bug in how the games save system works. Last night I slogged through one of the more difficult/encounter heavy dungeons just before I went to bed and made sure to save at one of the home points, including setting my home recall point there - when I started to play today, I was back at the point before the dungeon with all the levels/money I'd made and the ability to warp to the new home point grayed out. So I'd essentially need to go through that whole dungeon again, and with me already finding the game just okay it took a lot of the wind out of my sails.

I'll say that some of the overworld music was surprisingly catchy, but on the flip side the battle music was very dull and unexciting. The platforming was a novelty but got frustrating at times, and while the dev has said he didn't want the random battles you fight between bosses to be pointless/too easy I feel like he pivoted way too far in the other direction and made a lot of the encounters unfun battles of attrition.

I'm looking at Guild Wars 2 and XCOM 2 as my next focuses, with my buddies and I also considering other games like V Rising to play together, so any suggestions on fun multiplayer games we could try are welcome. Bonus for games that actually have progression/end goals. I have no interest in stuff like Rust/Ark because it's literally just gather resources > build a base > raid people til you get raided. V Rising was great because you had that goal of fighting your way through the bosses with Dracula as an endpoint. I want more like that.
 
This whole DayZ/Tarkov/Stalker demographic is something special. Even when they finally get a new game, they manage to make a controversy out of that too.
I've already written off the Stalker and Tarkov community as mentally retarded virtual cucks a long time ago. The amount of shit they happily ate straight from the developer's ass is astounding.
Despite Tarkov having some of the most anti-player and intentionally frustrating game mechanics on top of scammish dramas (Unheard Edition) people are still playing it for some god for-fucking-saken reason. And it's not like there's no competition.
There is, and it's called Single Player Tarkov. It's literally just Tarkov but you can mod it to your liking. The cucks don't like it however because "MUH REAL PLAYERZ", despite them complaining about the blatant cheating problem in EFT and mods that can make bots act near humanlike.
There's also all the copycat that popped up after the Unheard scandal, hoping to take over Tarkov's playerbase, but it was just the same shit in a different package.

As for Stalker, it was actually fine up until around 2022. It was around that time that GSC started fucking with players. The biggest scandal was them trying to push NFTs into the game, which failed after immense backlash.
There's been some dramas sprinkled in-between, like them saying that they we're thankful for modders keeping Stalker alive for 15 years despite them doing a genocide of russians in their community, which made up around 80% of the modding scene.
After Stalker 2 launch the shit just hit the fan at Mach fuck. The game was fucked up in literally all aspects and still is one year after release. Obviously there's been a handful of dramas in the past year including blatant bullshitting regarding updates and pre-orders and the aforementioned Misery takedown.
There's really no "true alternative" for them to go to, but even if there was, they absolutely wouldn't go there. The people who still stick by Stalker 2 are either running on copium/soy 24/7 or genuinely see nothing wrong with the game.

Oh, and also DayZ doesn't deserve to be put next to these two toxic wastespills. I've never heard a peep of drama coming from them.

And remember kids! Your duty is to mindlessly CONSOOOOOOOOOOM!
 
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