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[cybertoaster]

can only speak for myself, but literally every gamer seems to just want to shit on every other gamers taste so it seems pointless to mention indie stuff I play and actually enjoy.

Just post a few indies that aren't shit, wont judge you for it.

 

[Dr. Geronimo]

I don't know if I expect a crash, but the death of the "10-year dev cycle, 1500 staff members located across the globe with supporting companies, delivering a (boring) AAA 'experience' that cost a hundred million dollars" could only be a good thing. The bloat does not match the quality of the product.

What needs to stop us how often these devs fuck around for 7 of those years, realize they screwed up, then crunched for 3 and turned in their garbage at 11:59. Cyberpunk and Halo Infinite are infamous for this.

 

[Leaf Wage Slave Jr]

I just want it to happen so we can get it fucking over with.

This mentality where Modern Game Devs being treated like precious uwu babies that're immune to criticism, and everything bad being managements fault, is what got us into this mess where we have shit game after broken game after buggy mess. If nothing else, I just want to see a crash happen to push out as many of these useless fucks as possible, but I know that the second it happens we're just getting Troons and Pajeets in he dev room to replace them, and the drain gets circled faster.

The only company I'd bet would be able to ride out a crash would be Nintendo, owing solely to how many money printers they have at their disposal.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

The only company I'd bet would be able to ride out a crash would be Nintendo, owing solely to how many money printers they have at their disposal.

I would say Valve will be fine as well, considering how they have pivoted into hardware decently on their own

 

[Back me up!]

I would say Valve will be fine as well, considering how they have pivoted into hardware decently on their own

That is because there is only one owner of Valve (Gabe) and he wants for nothing but to get games to people/make interesting things. Profit is basically secondary to him.

 

[Snekposter]

That is because there is only one owner of Valve (Gabe) and he wants for nothing but to get games to people/make interesting things. Profit is basically secondary to him.

Considering the dude sleeps on a mattress stuffed with Ben Franklins its easy for him to consider profit secondary.

 

[Back me up!]

Considering the dude sleeps on a mattress stuffed with Ben Franklins its easy for him to consider profit secondary.

And more power too him! He set out to do what he wanted, accomplished the goal, and then let his band of genius misfit continue with the solo goal of "expand PC Gaming Marketplace".

Annoying to keeping track of save files/patches/forums across multiple PCs? Add all that to Steam
People like playing games on TV? Add in Steam Big Picture Mode
Worried that MS might control the OS for 90% of gaming? Create SteamOS
People like the idea of the Switch? Create your own mobile PC Hardware

I am kind of worried once Gabe kicks the bucket cause his son wants nothing to do with gaming (he races cars).

 

[Judge Dredd]

Then came the still ongoing wave of 2spoopy4me poorly put together "retro graphics" horror games that started with FNAF

and now the market its flooded by creepy PSX graphics walking sims.

PSX is an aesthetic I like, and it's popular with indie devs because it cuts down dev time significantly.

Why?

I don't know.

My best guess is, like @xXx: State of the Union said, you run the risk of being roped into political drama. But you also run the risk of being mocked for the content as well.

eg. There's an oversensitivity to sex. If you mention games that have even so much as a hint of cleavage or includes furries in any way, you'll have a bunch of people accusing you of being a degenerate coomer. If that standard was applied to old games, everything from Tomb Raider to Starfox would be off the table.

I just want it to happen so we can get it fucking over with.

Will never happen. People have been demanding a video game crash 2 since the Xbox 360 at least. Back then it was nostalgia tards saying Halo, Call of Duty, and Guitar Hero were going to doom us all unless we went back to endless Megaman sequels.

At the same time, when I (or YouTubers like Razorfist) point out rapid decline since the end of the Xbox 360, people refuse to believe it, and when confronted with it freak out like Neo being unplugged from the Matrix. The Xbone and PS5 are amazing consoles with great games on them like... ...but at least console sales are... ...well at least games aren't being dumped in landfills... *vomits and then collapses on the floor*

(And to clarify that last point. I consider shelf after shelf of unsold copied that eventually get dropping into local goodwills to be the modern equivalent of dropping games in a landfill)

I just want to see a crash happen to push out as many of these useless fucks as possible

If the crash happens (I think it already did) these people will be protected by their connections and everyone will talent will be shitcanned instead.

 

[cybertoaster]

it's popular with indie devs because it cuts down dev time significantly.

I'll argue imitating the blurry janky textures of the PSX convincingly is more work than just going low poly with flat colors but whatever...

There's an oversensitivity to sex.

Among normies maybe, who demand the female characters be butch and ugly with no T&A whatsoever. The average girl at the gym is sexier than the average videogame female character now.

If you mention games that have even so much as a hint of cleavage or includes furries in any way, you'll have a bunch of people accusing you of being a degenerate coomer

Unless the game is actual porn or actual furry porn like that FNAF "fan" game then its not coomer, I don't consider any of the DOA games to be coomer-tier, a little eye candy is not the same as hardcore sex and in the era of 4K BDSM streamed straight to your phone wherever you are the bouncy boobies of the DOAX volleyball games are a joke compared to that.

So again, list the games.

 

[Pissmaster]

The industry started getting bloated when video games started making more money than movies, which drew in countless investors, which drew in a demand for constant growth, which brought forth microtransactions, season passes, battle passes, outsourcing, ESG investing and all its demons, and now the whole economy's falling apart.

This is a market correction. The industry isn't crashing, it's just unable to draw in more disgustingly wealthy simps that'll spend five figures on FIFA Ultimate Team.

All this telling me is that this is the last or next to last generation of console gaming.

It probably won't be exactly this generation, but the necessity for video game consoles isn't there anymore like it was in the 20th century. The NES had a dedicated GPU, while PCs did not, and every machine was running on some different hardware that fundamentally worked differently than one another, so games couldn't just be ported around willy nilly. So if you wanted to make something that looked nice and was reasonably accessible to Americans and the Japanese, you could design it for this nice, low cost machine that's in countless households already. As opposed to a PC that cost thousands and would be more obsolete in a year than a decade-old PC in 2023.

Now PC's got the benefits of not just getting everything but Nintendo games, but high end ones perform better than XSXs and PS5s, and the Steam Deck clone market will only grow and grow. Even iGPUs on non-gaming laptops can handle Xbox 360-tier games. And of course, no subscription fees needed for online play. Consoles are all but obsolete.

 

[Judge Dredd]

So again, list the games.

I made a thread for them a while ago. It's here if you're interested.

It probably won't be exactly this generation, but the necessity for video game consoles isn't there anymore like it was in the 20th century.

I can see it going one of two ways.

1: The CDi model finally comes to fruition where machines are standardised enough so that you buy generic brand game consoles just as you do DVD or Blu Ray players.
2: The smartphone model. Similar to number 1, but where there's a couple of competing OSs (Steam and Nintendo) who release consoles every one or two years with incremental upgrades. System requirements are simply "Gen X console or higher". This would likely happen sooner (we're already seeing it with PS4>PS4 Pro>PS5 or Switch>Switch Lite>Switch OLED>Switch Pro.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

I can somehow predict that a new Video Game Crash will exist but probably not in the current timeline. If anything, it will be interesting by the time 2030 comes along, and everything will be way too digital, that it makes one question if the strike will turn out like the SAG-AFTRA strike which only seemed like a small win.

 

[Yamamura]

The weird thing is even if the crash happened I probably wouldn't even really notice it because I'm pretty insulated within my own bubble. I haven't purchased a AAA game after Resident Evil 7 I think and mostly either emulate older games or play autism simulators.

 

[TheArtilleryman]

I'm calling it now that consoles as we know them will become obselete some time in the next 20 years as they become closer in price and functionality to PCs. Sony will flounder with some ideas regarding alternative OS to Windows, which will more than likely fail. Microsoft will abandon the Xbox. Nintendo will further lean in to being the child friendly alternative that can be played portable or connected to TV a la Switch, perfect for shutting up your kids, and the tight grip they maintain on their exclusive IPs will allow them to do this successfully, though will also cement them as the little kids gaming system (not that their adult fans will care). The great console exodus will bring about a renaissance in gaming wherein every Tom, Dick and Harry will gain advanced modding knowledge, the concept of AAA games ceases to exist and the modern equivalent of Michaelangelo's David is gifted to us in the form of Half Life 3 in RPG Maker.

 

[BananaSplit²]

There's no crash coming, even trash like Soyder-Man 2 sold well on a shitty system, nothing can stop consoomers.

My personal advice is to take those game sales milestone announcements with a grain of salt, as they count shipped copies (to retailers) and console+game bundles amongst the total sales. Just like how FF16 numbers haven't been brought up by Square-Enix ever again, so it is still stuck at the "3 million sales worldwide" from June. Or Gran Turismo 7 that often kept appearing in the Japanese Famitsu charts due of the PS5 console bundles, but it was possible to see many of those game copies in the second-hand market there (in places such as Mercari).

eg. There's an oversensitivity to sex. If you mention games that have even so much as a hint of cleavage or includes furries in any way, you'll have a bunch of people accusing you of being a degenerate coomer. If that standard was applied to old games, everything from Tomb Raider to Starfox would be off the table.

If there's one thing I will give credit to americans and their anglo cousins for : They're uncontested champions of virtue-signaling lol.
I do wish some of them weren't malicious enough to start screwing with the foreign games, during the localization process, because of cultural differences.

I made a thread for them a while ago. It's here if you're interested.

If you don't mind my quick input, there is the INDIE LIVE EXPO with a winter event scheduled in December 2.
Also PLAYISM is a known Japanese publisher that release indies on both PC and Switch.
There is a couple of western indies I did enjoy across the years between: Binding of Isaac, Slay the Spire, Hades,
Downwell
SIGNALIS
X-Morph Defense
RUINER
Dungeon Warfare
etc.

It probably won't be exactly this generation, but the necessity for video game consoles isn't there anymore like it was in the 20th century.

Consoles are all but obsolete.

You’re grossly overestimating the average modern day console consumer, or even how tech literate the average person is.
Or missing the main strength of consoles that they continue to be streamlined enough as anyone can still enjoy themselves with no troubleshooting hurdles.
I'm familiar with computers for a few decades now (although I've always been an idort with a penchant for handhelds too), but even then I do prioritize getting Japanese games on Switch these days because there is always the guarantee they will work as intended. While I give whatever is left missing to my Steam Deck (JP stuff that don't run on the current Nintendo system, PC-exclusive indies and retro emulation).

 

[Thiletonomics]

eg. There's an oversensitivity to sex. If you mention games that have even so much as a hint of cleavage or includes furries in any way, you'll have a bunch of people accusing you of being a degenerate coomer. If that standard was applied to old games, everything from Tomb Raider to Starfox would be off the table.

And the sex stuff that is out there in today's media, is intentionally tasteless, just to "own" the coomers. The Abby and Owen sex scene in The Last of Us Part II, the Bill (?) sex scene in the HBO TLOU show, and the cockroach sex scene in HBO's Velma, come to mind.

 

[Golly Bo-Bolly]

Well I was sorta kinda right.

Maybe now I can buy a cib copy of "God hand" or "Cubivore" for less than $500.