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I wish they had managed to keep the original idea of Raiden cutting the rope and an American flag falling onto his body, would have been a poetic image but I think the PS2 couldn't handle the cloth physics.
Villains that are better than the Hero.
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I wish they had managed to keep the original idea of Raiden cutting the rope and an American flag falling onto his body, would have been a poetic image but I think the PS2 couldn't handle the cloth physics.
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Started out as a villain but eventually redeemed herself and is still better than the lead protagonist in every aspect. She was also correct about everything.
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The thing is that they were incredibly naive and idiotic about their morals. Moral AND dumb should not go hand-in-hand with each other, and that's what greatly frustrated me about the Starks.
"Even though I went back on my word with the Freys and decided to marry someone else, I'll show up to his daughter's wedding to pay my respects! I'm sure he'll be happy to see me!"
Robb. ROBB. Really?!
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Can't forget the OG bitch. She started it all
Ironic how Maleficent started off the film by not being invited and yet she's the one almost everyone remembers the most from the film to the point that she overshadows Aurora.
Ironic how Maleficent started off the film by not being invited and yet she's the one almost everyone remembers the most from the film to the point that she overshadows Aurora.
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Wait I heard the flag was removed because of 9/11 (just like the extended scene of Arsenal Gear devastating New York)
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If your villain is better than your hero, you've done a poor job defining them both.
That said: Hannibal Lecter over Clarice Starling, just because he's that much more charismatic and interesting.
That said: Hannibal Lecter over Clarice Starling, just because he's that much more charismatic and interesting.
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I thought Borderlands 2 Handsome Jack was a pretty great villain.
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Jason in Friday the 13th. You don't watch those movies to see a young woman stop his reign of terror, you watch them to see Jason murder stupid teenagers in increasingly extravagant ways.
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I'd agree with this. Take Bleach for example: Aizen is a far more interesting character than Ichigo; but they both have their place, it's not really a matter of being 'better'; more of being complimentary to one another.
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Left field, but The Fairy Godmother in Shrek 2. I've never watched a movie where I wanted 'the villain' to win more.
For that matter, the bad guy in Frozen turning into a wannabe murderer didn't make sense, and dealing with Elsa is like the humans dealing with mutants in X-Men comics - there comes a point where the level of power this one person holds breaks down any analogy to real-world discrimination and just becomes a sensible reaction to their overwhelming powers.
Comics are a good source of that sort of thing, where someone who just wants, say, the Joker to be executed rather than let him keep running around murdering chunks of Gotham gets treated as a villain, when there comes a point where let him live stops making sense. Moral arguments change when no prison can hold a criminal and cities can be destroyed by someone you can't disarm of their weapons.
For that matter, the bad guy in Frozen turning into a wannabe murderer didn't make sense, and dealing with Elsa is like the humans dealing with mutants in X-Men comics - there comes a point where the level of power this one person holds breaks down any analogy to real-world discrimination and just becomes a sensible reaction to their overwhelming powers.
Comics are a good source of that sort of thing, where someone who just wants, say, the Joker to be executed rather than let him keep running around murdering chunks of Gotham gets treated as a villain, when there comes a point where let him live stops making sense. Moral arguments change when no prison can hold a criminal and cities can be destroyed by someone you can't disarm of their weapons.
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At least he wasn't rewarded for his dumb. Martin took that particular bit of stupidity to its logical conclusion, which I appreciate. In any other fantasy/shonen novel Robb might have just cut his way out and went on a righteous rampage killing all the bad guys by the SHEER POWER OF WILL or something.
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The Espada were a million times more interesting and compelling than the Soul Society.
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The Monarch from The Venture Bros.
He's the most entertaining, well-rounded, and surprisingly fulfilled characters in the whole show. You learn about his operations, his henchmen, his wife, and even his old arch enemies and rivals but you never learn why he hates Rusty Venture so much. His drive to destroy Rusty is what makes him never boring or predictable. (And of course hilariously pathetic especially in the earlier seasons) Unlike Rusty, who we're supposed to feel bad for but his bitchy disdain for everyone's good fortune that he doesn't have makes him suck.
His queen wife is pretty fucking sweet too.It might be the deep voice that does it for me.
He's the most entertaining, well-rounded, and surprisingly fulfilled characters in the whole show. You learn about his operations, his henchmen, his wife, and even his old arch enemies and rivals but you never learn why he hates Rusty Venture so much. His drive to destroy Rusty is what makes him never boring or predictable. (And of course hilariously pathetic especially in the earlier seasons) Unlike Rusty, who we're supposed to feel bad for but his bitchy disdain for everyone's good fortune that he doesn't have makes him suck.
His queen wife is pretty fucking sweet too.
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They were a deconstruction of the usual "noble..." trope in a world that's not supposed to have any. It subvert™ed readers' expectations™ back in the 90s and those of normie viewers' in the 10s, but those expectations make no sense within the world, except maybe for sheltered airheaded children like Sansa. This kind of plot sometimes works in Romantic stories in which a citizen of a utopia goes out into the real world. But Shaun Bonne's kingdom cannot be such a utopian place, because 1. there's been a world war in which they all fought 2. they still fight pirate kings and northern raiders who have no concept of honor 3. he literally has an out and proud cannibal rapist (??) as an underling. With the kind of experience he had, he should've been as jaded as a prison guard captain in a Russian penal colony.
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I rated you winner, for obvious reasons. Ramia and Pixy Misa did absolutely nothing wrong.
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A literal king who learned from every mistake he made and truly tried to make the best world possible, while causing his opponents to stoop lower than him for victory.
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