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salsa said:
It's fucked up to think there's probably been some obsessed fan that's memorized Vinny's home address and driven by there at one point or another, even though his dad and grandmother still live there.
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... bro still lives with his dad and grandma????
 
l4dymacb3th said:
... bro still lives with his dad and grandma????
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AFAIK in the archive link I put under an earlier post, Vinny says that he lives with his dad and grandmother under the same roof. Currently that link is not responding when I click it, so I'll post what Vinny said in regards to his living situation below, though the entry itself is long:

"Hey guys. I wanted to make a post about some things for a few days now, but I didn't know what to say. It was only until after an hour+ long conversation with JiggyIggy last night that I realized what I wanted to express to you all.

If you notice I've been trying to keep my Patreon thing off the stream as much as possible. I didn't really even want the video at the bottom of the page, but I don't think we can remove it. In my mind, you guys are number one. The stream, the streamers, this forum; you are all the people I care about the most. I did not want to rub the Patreon thing in your faces. I knew that my youtube subscribers would be supportive enough, and even if they weren't I was ok with that. Don't get me wrong, my subscribers are really nice and overwhelmingly positive, but I know many of them aren't patient enough to watch a full stream: to stick with me through my highs, lows, boring moments and screw ups. I doubt most of them would even stick around for other streamers. It sucks a bit, but I understand it, time is precious.

I got off track a bit, but if you noticed, my Patreon is at a very liveable number for me, but it hasn't happened without some guilt or second thoughts. I don't make decisions like that lightly, in fact, I considered just cancelling the whole thing last night after a particularly intense internal struggle. Today, I feel a bit better, but I also feel I owe a detailed explanation of my motives to you all; my friends, my critics, my secret enemies, my jabronies.

Here's what this is all about.

The past two - three years have been very bad at work. Some of you may remember when I would spend time complaining about it on stream. I've since learned not to do that, but deep down, I was a very sad person. I would go to work, make my shitty pay, deal with incompetence and even mild forms of abuse from politically connected people. I was promised a raise for 2 years only to find out that no one ever said a thing to the guy in charge of that. I was kept in a room, editing one person's vanity projects for way too long, often being told how to do my job.

At home, I was in charge of making people smile, laugh and sometimes think. At work, I was ignored and under appreciated. At home, people would come to me with problems that I could fix, people would ask me for advice and guidance. At work, I was treated worse and payed less than a 19 year old out of high-school. It was slowly killing my spirits. Why would they do this to me? Because I stood up to the wrong people too many times. I opened my mouth when I saw things that were wrong. I questioned bad work and fought to do things right. I fucked with political kiss-asses and was kept in the dark as a result.

I know others have it worse than me, and for even complaining, I'm sorry. I can only tell you how I felt about this, not how tough it was compared to other jobs. Luckily, there was some hope for me. Starting Vinesauce nearly 4 years ago actually allowed me to quit my job. My youtube page started blowing up, allowing me to make some money and save it. Other opportunities also cropped up, adding to my "retirement fund" so to speak. I hoped things would get better at work, but I kinda knew they wouldn't so I saved and saved and saved. Finally, an event happened that was absolutely the last straw... I had to go. Fortunately for me, I have a bit of income now and a bunch saved up.

Now, why do I need the money? Why did I start a Patreon? Plain and simple, its so I can continue streaming and making videos. It's something I love more than any material possessions. It's my end game. I'm not making money to buy a new car, or go on a fancy vacation or stack my house with expensive junk. I'm making this money so I can eat, pay my bills and save a bit for when shit goes wrong.

After 5 years of servitude, I'm in no rush to go back to a 40 hour a week job. I know many of you will scoff at that and say "We all have to break our asses at work, what makes you different?" Well, nothing really, except you. By you enjoying what I do on the stream and the videos, I'm now able to focus on the things I really care about in life. I saw that some opportunities were open to me and I took them. I really do plan on getting some part-time freelance work to cover other expenses, but until then Patreon will do the trick.

Now, why do I need so much?

This is the part I don't like to talk about in the fear of becoming a massive whining shitlord. Unfortunately, for me to fully feel good about making this post, I have to describe why I'm not "rich" from youtube and patreon.

First, New York City. It's expensive to live here. 15 dollar bridge tolls. Gas prices that are sinfully high. Even food costs a bit more in some occasions.

Secondly, bills. I'm still paying a student loan off... $300 a month. I will be paying this off for quite a few years to come, with the added fun of increasing interest. Cellphone, internet, car insurance (I have a shitty 98 Corolla btw, just something to get me places.) Tomorrow I will begin paying for Health Insurance as well.

Finally, the real shitty part. When my mom died unexpectedly in 2012, the house I grew up in was passed to me. I am the executor of this place, which thankfully has no mortgage, but heating and electricity bills now fall to me. My grandma and dad also live here, and they don't make money aside from my grandma's pension. Guess who has to pay the difference? If anything happens here, the boiler breaks, the power goes out, there's insects, whatever.. I have to pay for it. That's why I've been saving for so long.

As I said, my endgame is to be able to stream and focus on Vinesauce stuff, the real source of my happiness. Now I can do this, and for the first time in my life I can breathe a sigh of relief.

On a last note, I mentioned that I would be streaming at more human hours and I haven't exactly done a lot of that the past few days. I feel I owe some of you an explanation. Since I started Patreon, I've been sending hundreds of thank you messages, emails and replies. I've also been working on the website a bit. I made mention of outtakes videos on Patreon, one of which I finished, with another 2 to go. I've also been working on my Yoshi's Island corruptions video. Because of my new lack of health insurance, I've been scrambling around, calling people and places looking for the best prices. I've also been able to work on my music a little bit as well. By next week all of this should die down and I should have a lot more time to stream as I promised I would. Don't worry, I'm not going to Mexico with anyone's money.

So to conclude, I'm happy for the first time in a while, but it does have it's reservations. Patreon may seem like a great idea for someone with a following, but if you're like me and have a pretty overwhelming conscience, it feels weird and is not entirely guilt free. If, in the future, I find freelance work or my youtube rates go up, I would highly consider cancelling the thing. We'll see how things go. Until then, just know that I appreciate you all very much. You are the true Vinesaucers and the ones I will always respect the most. I'm sorry for rambling on about all this, but I had to at least articulate it the best I could.

Remember that Patreon is completely optional and I didn't expect anyone to donate, ESPECIALLY if they're in financially dire straits. I'm good now, I don't need anything. I'm happy to have you with me all these years, the money is secondary, a means to an end, one which I seem to have accomplished already. So thanks again for being here and thanks for all the support and friendship. I hope I can continue to make you smile a little after a shitty day.

-Vinny"
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Whether he's still in that same house or not may be up for debate, considering this post is approaching 10 years old. Not to mention, we don't see his kitchen in the background of his face cam streams anymore. Maybe he rearranged his setup to a different room in the basement? :story:
 
salsa said:
AFAIK in the archive link I put under an earlier post, Vinny says that he lives with his dad and grandmother under the same roof. Currently that link is not responding when I click it, so I'll post what Vinny said in regards to his living situation below, though the entry itself is long:
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Holy fucking shit woooooo! :hah:
 
salsa said:
Whether he's still in that same house or not may be up for debate, considering this post is approaching 10 years old. Not to mention, we don't see his kitchen in the background of his face cam streams anymore. Maybe he rearranged his setup to a different room in the basement? :story:
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That is so embarrassing if he still lives with his dad and grandma. i was wondering why, in the 2021 google doc, one of the girls mentioned sneaking into the house. iirc, the stories/hookups took place in 2015/16. Hopefully he has an actual house/apartment now and isn't a 38-year-old literally living with his parent. If he's still there... no wonder he mainly fucks at conventions.
 
It sounds like he owned the house and was responsible for supporting his father and grandmother, which, while probably not ideal, is better than a scenario where he owns nothing and is making too little to move out. Sending them off to a retirement home or buying a separate place for them in NY seems like it'd be out of the question if he was trying to save up and justifying a Patreon to his audience. If this is 10 years ago, I'd imagine by this point he'd probably have gotten them another place or passed the house over to them and gotten his own place.
 
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Since we're on this familial topic, here's a photo of Joel's dad that he posted in one of the streams:
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Furthermore, his surname isn't actually Johansson, right? Joel also called himself Jarvisson and both of those sound like generic "John Smith" names, that you intentionally give out to not dox yourself.
 
salsa said:
There was a stream that was archived in the Mega.NZ file on page 603 of this thread titled "2012-04-15 - Skate 3 glitches and derps", and around the 18:20 mark Vinny reads out someone named Anthony Palmieri in the credits, and he ends up not reading the rest of the names in the credits because of how awkward it was. I can only imagine how unsettling it would be for him, let alone anybody, to be approached by a stranger and be addressed by his full government name.

With this topic of Vinny's personal information coming up again on this thread, I do feel pretty bad for his family members that aren't connected to Vinesauce that have to deal with his stalker fanbase. It's fucked up to think there's probably been some obsessed fan that's memorized Vinny's home address and driven by there at one point or another, even though his dad and grandmother still live there. Shit, I even remember reading up on an archived thread from /v a few years ago that someone talked to Vinny at PAX and he said that there were people from 4chan in the early days that sent him and his other family members death threats via Facebook because they found his info from his mom's obituary shortly after she passed away, and that's why he doesn't associate his past with 4chan anymore. That's got to be hard to deal with, especially given how private he prides himself in being.
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god damn that mega archive has some ancient shit. i don't know how i missed it the first time and i didn't think any full stream pre-2013 was ever archived safe for the occasional rare screencapture of the website during a stream. i wonder how deep the archive goes (2011 maybe?) and whether those old vinny gmod RP streams are still around.

knowing vinny and how vast his extended family is he was probably shocked by that name showing up in the credits because he almost certainly has some uncle or cousin whose name is anthony. let's be honest, amongst italians, palmieri is common as fuck. he might aswell be vincent smith.


EDIT because i didn't want to shit up the thread with a second post: from what I read in the vincent sr. article, his grandmother died in 2015. so it's probably just him and maybe his dad still living in that house now. from what i've seen when he got doxxed here a few hundred pages ago; it's a cushy 2 story place with a garage in a quiet neighborhood. i don't see why he would move out considering it seems like a pretty sweet deal for himself. given his sentimentality (good lord, that forum post about the patreon is just oozing with insecurity. i can see why he took the patreon down soon after), he's probably not moving out anyway since it probably feels "wrong" to him to move out of his childhood home and sell it after 2 generations held on to it for him, or something like that. whatever happens i just hope he never goes through with that thought he had about moving out to the west coast, cause i think it would rot his brain and make him insufferable.

while we're still on the topic, does anyone know why the vinesauce forums were shut down? i'm torn between it being either an expense that vinny cut out of frugality or petty drama.
 
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Joel recently mentioned doing a fake GTA V stream one time where he was just walking around the town pretending he's in a game. Anyone remembers that?
 
l4dymacb3th said:
That is so embarrassing if he still lives with his dad and grandma. i was wondering why, in the 2021 google doc, one of the girls mentioned sneaking into the house. iirc, the stories/hookups took place in 2015/16. Hopefully he has an actual house/apartment now and isn't a 38-year-old literally living with his parent. If he's still there... no wonder he mainly fucks at conventions.
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How is that a bad thing at all in his case? He's obviously not doing it out of necessity, and don't forget that he has lost several close relatives already, it's perfectly understandable that he would want to be close to his remaining family members.
 
ANF said:
How is that a bad thing at all in his case? He's obviously not doing it out of necessity, and don't forget that he has lost several close relatives already, it's perfectly understandable that he would want to be close to his remaining family members.
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Women regard men as failures if they don't own their own home regardless of the circumstances.
 
johnny johnny yes papa said:
Women regard men as failures if they don't own their own home regardless of the circumstances.
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That is not the case at all. Just because I find it a bit odd that this random internet man still lives in his childhood home doesn't mean it's a woman moment. I'm more embarrassed for him than of him in that scenario, just thinking about how I would react in the situation. Obviously, we have different families and different ways we function. I would be overwhelmingly embarrassed in his current home/place, but maybe that's what a lot of his family has done. At the end of the day, it doesn't matter.
 
even mild forms of abuse from politically connected people
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Why would they do this to me? Because I stood up to the wrong people too many times. I opened my mouth when I saw things that were wrong. I questioned bad work and fought to do things right. I fucked with political kiss-asses and was kept in the dark as a result.
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Jesus christ Vinny what the fuck did you do?
 
salsa said:
With this topic of Vinny's personal information coming up again on this thread, I do feel pretty bad for his family members that aren't connected to Vinesauce that have to deal with his stalker fanbase. It's fucked up to think there's probably been some obsessed fan that's memorized Vinny's home address and driven by there at one point or another, even though his dad and grandmother still live there. Shit, I even remember reading up on an archived thread from /v a few years ago that someone talked to Vinny at PAX and he said that there were people from 4chan in the early days that sent him and his other family members death threats via Facebook because they found his info from his mom's obituary shortly after she passed away, and that's why he doesn't associate his past with 4chan anymore. That's got to be hard to deal with, especially given how private he prides himself in being.
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Do the people who autistically keep latching onto his personal information about him and his family, digging up archives and posting it on KF over and over again really feel that bad if others happen to come across it and use that to stalk him or do whatever else? You say he prides himself about his privacy, but what are you doing here? There's clear evidence of people with brainrot and e-thirst in this thread that aren't really different than the dumbasses in his community that would cross physical boundaries to get close to him. I don't even think 4chan talks about his family as much as it happens here.
They still regurgitate the doc shit every now and then in Mandalore threads but it's mostly just complaining about the games Vinny chooses to play.

The difference with this place compared to 4chan when it comes to that information is it's archived better, so it's a lot easier to search and access it.
I just don't get it, some of the people posting here are not even that different than the weird people in his community they complain about. And I've been proven right when they've dropped their spaghetti in this thread and outed in the past.
 
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Do the people who autistically keep latching onto his personal information about him and his family, digging up archives and posting it on KF over and over again really feel that bad if others happen to come across it and use that to stalk him or do whatever else? You say he prides himself about his privacy, but what are you doing here? There's clear evidence of people with brainrot and e-thirst in this thread that aren't really different than the dumbasses in his community that would cross physical boundaries to get close to him. I don't even think 4chan talks about his family as much as it happens here.
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I have to admit, it is pretty much what it boils down to, in a way, but honestly it's a thread about Vincent Sauce and friends. The topic's gonna be about them, and it's generally gonna sink down the rabbit hole. What's happening here as well is partly a result of the site we're in. Dig down deep and get some mild satisfaction saying, "huh, this guy sorta lives normally."

Sure, there's definitely some spaghetti... looking at certain brainrotten women who are in this thread, but generally it's more shut down here than it is in other circles.

It's an even split. This is more or less the TMZ of niche internet microcelebrities, so we're a different layer of cringe.
 
As a non doomer on Vinnys videos, the stuff I actually care to watch of his still seems decent and him and Joel both playing the horror cash grab ban ban was actually funny. They each did their own stream, haven't dragged the joke out, and moved on. Vinny playing TF2 has also been far more enjoyable than Jermas return collab.
 
I watched Jobel's stream ripping on garten of banban and now all my reccomendations are fucked up. I hate youtube.
 
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