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but it could also be from a business perspective where he just wants to appeal to the widest audience he can without causing controversy.
Which, in itself, is bad for business. You can't please 100% of the people 100% of the time, especially when one side has a giant track record of co-opting something into their own brand of horseshit that winds up causing controversy anyways.
 
Where are people getting this idea that Vinny and Joel are secretly based and actually HATE trannies? There are plenty of people that started out on 4chan and then later on changed their views to be more politically correct. Vinny especially seems like a typical New York left leaning guy. I've never seen any evidence that they're secretly red pilled chuds.
I think some people latch onto some of the lyrics from early Red Vox stuff, too. "Wrong Side of History" can be easily interpreted as ironically mocking Leftist Cancel Culture (but you can easily say it uses that language because he's Left-leaning), and there's that line in "Atom Bomb" that goes "You're either on one end or your not a friend / There's no middle road."

I agree that he's probably not a secret chud though. I'd guess he's a more like a moderate early-2000s era liberal, the sort of live-and-let-live type that has become alien to American politics these days.
Didn't someone dox his voter registration or something and it said he voted conservative?
There was a Vincent Palmieri in Staten Island who was registered Republican, and it might have been associated with his birthday, though I don't remember for sure. But it's a family name, so it's possible his info got mixed with his (grand)father's registration. Or maybe it's to vote against his disfavored nominees in GOP Primaries (I've known Republicans who at least considered registering Democrat to vote again Hillary Clinton in the Dem Primaries, for example).

Basically it tells us nothing new about Vinny's actual political beliefs.
 
Vinny's always struck me as a centrist, like people have pointed out. Joel probably started out more of a chud but has been forced to rein it in for the sake of still having an audience. Not everyone who used 4chan back in the day was necessarily right-wing, or even cared about politics at all. They were just having fun on a site that gave no consequences or no fucks about political correctness. The politicization of boards like /v/ is something that needs to be studied, because it seems to me as if it changed overnight.
 
Vinny's always struck me as a centrist, like people have pointed out. Joel probably started out more of a chud but has been forced to rein it in for the sake of still having an audience. Not everyone who used 4chan back in the day was necessarily right-wing, or even cared about politics at all. They were just having fun on a site that gave no consequences or no fucks about political correctness. The politicization of boards like /v/ is something that needs to be studied, because it seems to me as if it changed overnight.
It wasn't just /v/, everything became politicized. You weren't allowed to have an opinion on anything without being labelled and put into a side.
 
I agree that he's probably not a secret chud though. I'd guess he's a more like a moderate early-2000s era liberal, the sort of live-and-let-live type that has become alien to American politics these days.
This is the impression I get with what he's said about politics over the years. He's also implied a few times to be one of the unlucky ones whose family loves bringing it up during family gatherings/holidays. Dude just wants to grill.
This is related, but I also wanted to use this topic as a springboard to bring up a post @LintyDX made about Vinny calling chat "niggers" that I'm assuming the anons got it mixed up. In one stream, he's frustrated with chat "being retards" when it's being derailed. In the other, he talks about a chat member's ban appeal who "called someone a nigger".
Later at 52:41 he gives his thoughts on streaming, how he feels about politics and other flamewars being brought up on the streams. It's a pretty good listen.
 
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Where are people getting this idea that Vinny and Joel are secretly based and actually HATE trannies? There are plenty of people that started out on 4chan and then later on changed their views to be more politically correct. Vinny especially seems like a typical New York left leaning guy. I've never seen any evidence that they're secretly red pilled chuds.
It's probably because they don't act like your typical ashamed ex funny person. They certainly pull their punches but their senses of humor would appear to be at odds with that mindset.
Then again, the whole dilution of "being a chud" comes into play here. It's down to opinion but I'd classify ANY disagreement with the tranny hivemind as "chud behaviour".
Like it or not, they control the mainstream definition and that's the standard they've set.

Then again, maybe it's just like RLM. It's pretty easy to hold contradictory views if they're old habits.
 
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Agreeing with the sentiment that neither are super secret alt right chuds or whatever, but there's been a few times joel has said something that made me glance over at my screen and go 🤔

I remember one time (I think he was streaming with Mike) where he belted out "cut my dick into pieces! This is my last resort!" Then laughed and said "who sings that? Sum41?" And mentioned how crazy it would be to cut off your dick (don't remember if he said it right after or in a different context. Don't watch either of them all that regularly anymore). If he didn't mean it as a troon joke, it was a funny coincidence that made me chuckle a bit at least.

Vinny is just a the most milquetoast "I don't wanna upset either side and just want to grill" type that I wonder if he even has any strong opinions on anything at all.
 
Vinny is just a the most milquetoast "I don't wanna upset either side and just want to grill" type that I wonder if he even has any strong opinions on anything at all.
He has in his older streams, but these days he tends to choose his words carefully. I think it was recently when Mewgenics blew up and trannies were seething about le chuddie meows, he said something like, "not all games appeal to everyone", which I remember him saying before in the Warioland Shake It streams about Other M's design choices. However, he was pretty adamant that things don't need to be designed a certain way just to appeal to casuals, so I'd assume his stance back then is the same as it is today.

Sometimes when he and a chat member have differing opinions on something or they call out his contradictory views, he gets pretty passive-aggressive about it when he cleary doesn't agree, often makes a bitchy/witty remark before coming clean, dropping the subject or talking about something else, like he embarrassed for being put on the spot or something.

When it comes to politics, he's shared his views on a few occasions about the affordability of healthcare, taxes and bills -- which he's been pretty consistent with not being pleased with -- though he's not the type to propose solutions/answers to the world's problems. Just that whatever he's experienced and witnessed doesn't seem to be working and there's got to be a better solution somewhere.
 
If I could wish for one thing in life, it would be to watch probably the most inflammatory Vinesauce stream in history one more time. The holy grail of Joel streams that was completely obliterated off of the Internet.

Nazi Penis Cartel Freedom Fighters 3, the Mario 3 romhack with KKK members, lynched niggers, ketamine and whores that Joey played for like an hour and a half in 2012.

Good luck finding that one again. I've tried. I actually have the romhack saved.
 
If I could wish for one thing in life, it would be to watch probably the most inflammatory Vinesauce stream in history one more time. The holy grail of Joel streams that was completely obliterated off of the Internet.

Nazi Penis Cartel Freedom Fighters 3, the Mario 3 romhack with KKK members, lynched niggers, ketamine and whores that Joey played for like an hour and a half in 2012.

Good luck finding that one again. I've tried. I actually have the romhack saved.
There was a small channel (I forgot the name) that uploaded archives of Vinesauce streams like that. I remember seeing Joel comment on a couple videos, requesting to have them removed. Here's an old clip
 

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Vinny's always struck me as a centrist, like people have pointed out. Joel probably started out more of a chud but has been forced to rein it in for the sake of still having an audience.
Pizzapasta said nigger himself from time to time in the chatango days. Vinesauce was always /v/-coded from it's inception. But now we got v-tuber shit, terminal 9 trannyism (because Jerma went all-in on the grift, infecting VS in the process) and an american-italian man who wants to be Leon S. Kennedy.
The latest streams are alright.
 
Pizzapasta said nigger himself from time to time in the chatango days. Vinesauce was always /v/-coded from it's inception. But now we got v-tuber shit, terminal 9 trannyism (because Jerma went all-in on the grift, infecting VS in the process) and an american-italian man who wants to be Leon S. Kennedy.
The latest streams are alright.
Sounds like he's still /v/-coded then.
 
I'm pretty sure there was a period some year/s ago where some random bigender tumblr blob tried to get him cancelled and it was big enough that he skipped out on streaming for a week or two, seeming unnerved once he finally did start streaming again.
The accusation was of him pumping and dumping fans. Which it seems he most likely was doing, but nobody really cares. The Internet has no more sympathy for clout-chasing whores trying to get some e-daddy dick.
 
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