Virgin UK is blocking DNS Resolution to kiwifarms dot net

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Might not be the right thread for this kind of editorial thought but I want to express how aggravating and disturbing it really is that our farms get blocked like this, the "hate site" narrative is easily dispelled if you spend any time at all here listening to people talk. It may be autistic to be proud of any internet forum, but by all means rev up your puzzle pieces because I'm proud to be part of this one.

I feel the exact same way. This is a fucking gossip site, not a race war hate machine. Anyone who genuinely wants to start trolling/harassment campaigns gets thoroughly mocked and dismissed. People have been banned for harassing lolcows off-site. We have the mentality of a zoo; you can look at the exhibits, but can’t touch what’s inside.

It’s also funny because the people with threads on here who scream about harassment and stalking conveniently ignore the fact that we only talk about content they themselves made available on the internet for anyone to see.
 
Sometimes, it is moments like this that make some of us proud to be Americans where freedom of speech is truly free.
And there are ungrateful Americans that don't understand the greatness that are the amendments because words are -ists and -phobes.
If we had the first amendment, I'd support it with all my might and never let it go.
 
I feel the exact same way. This is a fucking gossip site, not a race war hate machine. Anyone who genuinely wants to start trolling/harassment campaigns gets thoroughly mocked and dismissed. People have been banned for harassing lolcows off-site. We have the mentality of a zoo; you can look at the exhibits, but can’t touch what’s inside.

It’s also funny because the people with threads on here who scream about harassment and stalking conveniently ignore the fact that we only talk about content they themselves made available on the internet for anyone to see.
Most of them are as hate-filled as they accuse us of being. It’s just that they hate those with “privilege,” so that’s okay.
 
This is so worrying - I know the Uk doesn’t have free speech enshrined in law like the US does (we don’t have a constitution) but culturally, the ability to take the piss out of people has been sacrosanct since basically forever.
We are seeing a huge crackdown on speech and expression - women kicked out of a pub for wearing an ‘adult human female’ t shirt. Women chucked off twitter for daring to say you can’t change sex. No platforming and ‘no debate.’

It’s really frightening and it’s against what I consider to be the core British culture. We are an irreverent people - we brought you Brass Eye and Spitting image, Hogarth and a million scathing cartoonists and satirical shows.

I can write to my MP. Anything else I can do? He’s a woke twat so I doubt I’ll get too far.
 
Um, I love a good rage fest as much as the next guy, but I'm posting this from a device that's attached to a virgin Internet connection right now, with no vpn/proxy, and it's fine.

How many instances of actual blocking have we recorded here? I've not read the whole thread yet, but I've certainly had no problems with accessing KF.
 
Um, I love a good rage fest as much as the next guy, but I'm posting this from a device that's attached to a virgin Internet connection right now, with no vpn/proxy, and it's fine.

How many instances of actual blocking have we recorded here? I've not read the whole thread yet, but I've certainly had no problems with accessing KF.

Quite a few people have said the same thing.

Honestly, the amount of vitriol generated whenever something happens in the UK is absolutely comical sometimes.

I get Vordy's here, and the police do sod all about him despite good cause. But it can get fucking ridiculous.
 
This is so worrying - I know the Uk doesn’t have free speech enshrined in law like the US does (we don’t have a constitution) but culturally, the ability to take the piss out of people has been sacrosanct since basically forever.
We are seeing a huge crackdown on speech and expression - women kicked out of a pub for wearing an ‘adult human female’ t shirt. Women chucked off twitter for daring to say you can’t change sex. No platforming and ‘no debate.’

It’s really frightening and it’s against what I consider to be the core British culture. We are an irreverent people - we brought you Brass Eye and Spitting image, Hogarth and a million scathing cartoonists and satirical shows.

I can write to my MP. Anything else I can do? He’s a woke twat so I doubt I’ll get too far.

It's been going on longer than you think. The recent wokening has merely brought an eye upon it here. I was reading Melon Farmers back when I was a student and how the London School of Economics and Channel 4 News censored the webcomic Jesus & Mo. Granted, it does have the stench of euphoria about it, does that comic, but when the LSE tried to ban the Atheist Society for having a Jesus & Mo panel on their shirt with Jesus saying "Hey" and Mohammed saying "How ya doin?" - in 2007, no less (current year argument) it makes you think.

The previous year, IIRC, that the Racial & Religious Hatred Act came into force, which did away with blasphemy laws, and promptly replaced them with an offence of inciting religious hatred. In effect... it reinstated blasphemy laws. Well fucking done.

For me, the turning point was the MacPherson report, which was into the murder of Stephen Lawrence by white thugs and which branded the Met "institutionally racist." Heads rolled for that. It led to an institutional climate in which if you're a chief of police and crime goes up under your watch, you will be fine, but if there is a perception of any form of racial or other prejudice on any grounds, you risk being fired. Hence, we now spend inordinate amounts of money policing Twitter mockery and not enough actually tromping the pavement or acting visibly to curtail crime. I mentioned in the Offline Tumblrinas thread that woman from [area] Police who insisted we get a male officer to search the bottom half of pre-operative transsexuals and a female officer for the top half to avoid breaching anyone's human rights, right? Imagine hundreds of people like her, on fairly chunky salaries in nice well-ventilated offices on Police HQs all over coming up with this old bollox day in, day out.
 
This is almost certainly a routing issue due to Virgin's technical incompetence rather than an attempt at censorship. Last year I had the exact same problem with users on Virgin being unable to connect to our corporate VPN and intranet due to a stale route which it took them about a month to clear. I'd still recommend moving to a different ISP, but mainly because Virgin's network is ancient shit held together with stickytape and chewing gum and administrated by fuckwits.

from the sounds of it, it may just be one or two of their DNS servers rather than all of them - as I said upthread, in three years I've never had problems accessing the site (other than the occasional Cloudflare errors)

Most households that use Virgin Media in Britbong have been upgraded to the Superhub 3 which is missing the DNS option. I should've clarified, my bad. :(

ahh, that's probably it - my computer is connected directly to the cable modem, and doesn't use a router

(we don’t have a constitution)

actually we do, except it's not all in one place - it's spread across 6-7 different laws put in place between 1216 and 1969
 
Police angle is interesting.

It’s alleged that Susie Green Of mermaids has contacts in West Yorkshire police. WYP interviewed poise Parker under caution for her tweets saying green took her son abroad to be castrated (factually correct.) various police forces seem to be used as people’s personal grudge squad - coppers sent round to interview Graham Linehan for a tweet, Stephanie Hayden (is he a cow? He should be...) has also abused police wokeness.

As frontline police budgets are being cut to the bone under austerity it seems at best a waste of resources. At worst a sinister infiltration and abuse of the criminal justice system.
 
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actually we do, except it's not all in one place - it's spread across 6-7 different laws put in place between 1216 and 1969

I didn’t know that - what are our rights to free speech then? And do they clash with hate crime legislation?
 
I didn’t know that - what are our rights to free speech then? And do they clash with hate crime legislation?

freedom of expression is a residual right, i.e. anything is permitted unless it's actually illegal (defamation, contempt of court etc.), and certain forms are protected (free speech within Parliament, media reportage of Parliament, qualified privilege, i.e. reportage of court proceedings)

the problem is that in law, the definition of 'hate crime' is extremely loose and vague (like 'immorality') - it can mean absolutely anything, and is bounded only by precedent and what is considered reasonable in court, neither of which guarantee any sort of common-sense based protection to anyone
 
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freedom of expression is a residual right, i.e. anything is permitted unless it's actually illegal (defamation, contempt of court etc.), and certain forms are protected (free speech within Parliament, media reportage of Parliament, qualified privilege, i.e. reportage of court proceedings)

That means it's barely a right at all. It's better to have an ironclad ultra-law in a written Constitution that flat out says that any law to the contrary is automatically void ab initio.
 
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