Visual Novels

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Do you play visual Novels?

  • No, because that’s fucking gay

    Votes: 83 15.7%
  • Yes, because I read them for the plot

    Votes: 195 36.9%
  • No, because they’re not really video games

    Votes: 34 6.4%
  • Yes, because anime girls are better than real women

    Votes: 116 21.9%
  • No, but I think about playing them

    Votes: 68 12.9%
  • Yes, but I do it ironically

    Votes: 33 6.2%

  • Total voters
    529
"And then the walking toxic waste dump with F cups got embarrassed and put on the maid outfit to make her boyfriend happy."
-the guy currently in charge of the silent hill franchise

Rewrite is a lot funnier in retrospect.
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"And then the walking toxic waste dump with F cups got embarrassed and put on the maid outfit to make her boyfriend happy."
-the guy currently in charge of the silent hill franchise

Rewrite is a lot funnier in retrospect.
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I don't think I've played any other VN that had a different writer for each route and weren't shit. Toxic dump waifu route in particular was great in how off the rails it gets but still had a great ending.
 
Finished Chapter 1 of Higurashi.

I was right about Rena being somehow connected but it still did a good job of making me think I was just being paranoid until the moment she first calls Keiichi a liar and freaks out. The way her and that other chick play with him was seriously creepy and definitely unsettled me each time it happened. Even then, there were moments where it seems like Keiichi is just being paranoid or could actually just be hallucinating until both Rena and Mion get all creepy again.

On to Chapter 2!
 
Finished Chapter 1 of Higurashi.

I was right about Rena being somehow connected but it still did a good job of making me think I was just being paranoid until the moment she first calls Keiichi a liar and freaks out. The way her and that other chick play with him was seriously creepy and definitely unsettled me each time it happened. Even then, there were moments where it seems like Keiichi is just being paranoid or could actually just be hallucinating until both Rena and Mion get all creepy again.

On to Chapter 2!
How did you find the ambience? One of the things that really struck me with Higurashi even from chapter 1 was how well sound is used. It's so well-done that I honestly think that Umineko is a huge downgrade in this department.
 
Finished Utawarerumono Prelude to the Fallen. First thing, now I can type the name. I'll go deeper into impressions later but I enjoyed it. Also gave me some insane whiplash once things started falling into place. It did feel meandering at points though. Also, the gameplay itself is really more of a hindrance than anything. Happened the same with Digimon Survive which is also a TRPG as well as a VN and it seems to translate that all of the usual VN tools to skip around get shafted due to there being gameplay in the middle as well as making any sort of replay a huge chore. Though in Uta's defense, there is no real branching of sorts even if there is a missable scene if I understood right.

Also, fuck Hauenkua, what an absolutely retarded character.
 
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How did you find the ambience? One of the things that really struck me with Higurashi even from chapter 1 was how well sound is used. It's so well-done that I honestly think that Umineko is a huge downgrade in this department.
It was really good at creating a sense of dread. There were a number of times that caused me to unconsciously hold my breath. The music stings and jump you get when the doorbell goes off really helps build tension because it'll almost always never been good when someone calls or rings that thing.

It'll be interesting when I get to Umineko because from what I've heard from posts like yours and just meme osmosis Umineko is a really good but over the top anime version of Clue.

I'm coming in blind on Higurashi aside from watching a spoiler light analysis of the sound used in the first garbage dump scene with Rena so playing through chapter 1 and now the morning after the festival in chapter 2 has already been a ride. I'm totally confused about why we're going through similar beats to chapter 1 but I assume that will be explained. It's sad knowing the friend group is going to break up again, but this time with more romance involved.

Chapter 2 has also introduced some new concepts that made me think about some things from chapter 1 so it's been fun trying to connect the dots between behavior in the first chapter and the lore dump you get in the implement warehouse the night of the festival.
 
Finished Utawarerumono Prelude to the Fallen. First thing, now I can type the name. I'll go deeper into impressions later but I enjoyed it. Also gave me some insane whiplash once things started falling into place. It did feel meandering at points though. Also, the gameplay itself is really more of a hindrance than anything. Happened the same with Digimon Survive which is also a TRPG as well as a VN and it seems to translate that all of the usual VN tools to skip around get shafted due to there being gameplay in the middle as well as making any sort of replay a huge chore. Though in Uta's defense, there is no real branching of sorts even if there is a missable scene if I understood right.

Also, fuck Hauenkua, what an absolutely retarded character.
How did you feel about the reveal the MC is strong at first because the furry folk have literal no attack Humans order coded into their DNA?

Also who's the better waifu, Touka or Karura? I recommend watching the OVAs.
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The sequels are better in that the gameplay is more complex, leading some battles to be more puzzles rather than generic TRPG slog. And absolutely amazing fight scenes mixing gameplay with story.
 
How did you feel about the reveal the MC is strong at first because the furry folk have literal no attack Humans order coded into their DNA?

Also who's the better waifu, Touka or Karura? I recommend watching the OVAs.
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The sequels are better in that the gameplay is more complex, leading some battles to be more puzzles rather than generic TRPG slog. And absolutely amazing fight scenes mixing gameplay with story.
I actually really like the the Uta 1 Remake. Mostly because it's a story about becoming Gengis Kahn because you refused to pay taxes. Utterly based.
 
Finished Chapter 2 of Higurashi.

It was definitely still just as good as Chapter 1 and I'm excited to keep going. Though I couldn't help myself and googled why Chapter 2 was basically a new timeline of Chapter 1 and found that I'd get answers in the Answer arcs so that's good to know at least. I didn't get anything spoiled but I was kind of worried I was missing the point of the entire series and was overlooking something. I decided to take notes this time since it would be interesting to refer back to them once everything is said and done.

Overall Thoughts
- Keiichi is a retard for following Mion into the torture dungeon by himself.

- The love triangle was heartbreaking. I like how it tied into the overall actual murder mystery, though.

- I was absolutely sure Rena was going to reveal she was secretly also a demon just like in Chapter 1 when they went to go confront Mion. I'm happy that wasn't the case because Rena's a sweetheart.

- The reveal that Mion was impersonating Shion on the phone was bonechilling.

- Whereas in Chapter 1 I was thinking this may be humans perpetuating a murder conspiracy or some kind of traditionalist cult now I'm thinking it's about actual demon possession.

- The ending is confusing. I understand the open questions that need answers, but I don't get what exactly happened to Keiichi with that Mion ghost that appeared under his hospital bed. I'm assuming this gets answered later.

- Once the warehouse scene happened where there was a lore dump about the past of the village, I was thinking that maybe that would explain some of Rena's behavior in Chapter 1 where she kept saying she was sorry over and over in the rain outside Keiichi's house. It's not that these people are inherently evil, but that they're possessed by a demon. Chapter 2's ending makes that theory more convincing since Mion as the demon kept talking as if she could still tell what the actual Mion was thinking. So maybe Rena in Chapter 1 was manifesting an apology or something after getting her fingers caught in the door of Keiichi's house trying to break in.

Edit: I should also say that I've now been trained to hold my breath when things go silent for about 3 seconds because goddamn there's always some kind of sting one of the characters gets those creepy looks when that happens.
 
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How did you feel about the reveal the MC is strong at first because the furry folk have literal no attack Humans order coded into their DNA?
... I didn't get that from playing the game to be honest, maybe the anime is more explicit about this or I wasn't paying attention. he would barely survive Oboro and Benawi kicking his shit and when he went full monster vs the old warlord I just assumed that was the reason he was OP. Since I'm already talking about plot points. I like the super advanced civilization that went to shit trope, which added to the crhonology, it seems Hakuowlo was just some nosy archeologist of sort in a normal time, found the mask, got shot, got frozen probably as part of a contract with god, X years later gets unfrosted by the remmants of space humans, they make all of the furries using him as a base (which makes how much he likes fucking them go places...) and the Ab Kuman (really wanted to see how they are boarded... at first they seemed mechanical but knowing they are actually biological raises a ton of questions). Is that about right? What I don't fully get is how the furries flourished. I'm also wondering how magic surfaced. I also found it baffling that nobody ever asked what the hell Hakuowlo was, hell, I thought Benawi was a human as well at the start.
Also who's the better waifu, Touka or Karura? I recommend watching the OVAs.
Touka all the way, Karura annoyed me very much with her fake aloof sort of attitude. Touka won me over.
The sequels are better in that the gameplay is more complex, leading some battles to be more puzzles rather than generic TRPG slog. And absolutely amazing fight scenes mixing gameplay with story.
Good to know. They weren't a horrible hassle mind you, in normal you barely if ever have to use resources, but I wans't enjoying them particularly much either. The final boss was an absolute slog with how much of a HP sack it was and I had zero interest playing through the game on hard. I ended up checking the bonus locked content since I was still missing more than 40 items to unlock it and after replaying a few missions, I just could not be assed.
I actually really like the the Uta 1 Remake. Mostly because it's a story about becoming Gengis Kahn because you refused to pay taxes. Utterly based.
Funniest part is how he basically ends up ruling with an Iron fist thinking "I just wanted to grow my not potatos in peace!"
 
Is that about right? What I don't fully get is how the furries flourished. I'm also wondering how magic surfaced. I also found it baffling that nobody ever asked what the hell Hakuowlo was, hell, I thought Benawi was a human as well at the start.
The furries flourished because they were artificially created to survive in the toxic environment that humans would immediately die from. They are also regimented so that different breeds have different tasks.

Magic is just there, I think there's some handwaving about it.

As for asking who he was, they wonder at first but assume he is just assumed some different species they don't know of. It's not like they know all species in existence.


Touka all the way, Karura annoyed me very much with her fake aloof sort of attitude. Touka won me over.
Touka is marriage material, Karura I'd fuck, even with the cost of my pelvis.
I actually really like the the Uta 1 Remake. Mostly because it's a story about becoming Gengis Kahn because you refused to pay taxes. Utterly based.
Technically Nobunaga since the area in 1 is more Japan than China. 2 though is China all the way.
Funniest part is how he basically ends up ruling with an Iron fist thinking "I just wanted to grow my not potatos in peace!"
Poor Haku, doomed to be the smartest man in the room.
 
I wish there was a way to filter VNs on Steam so only proper ones by Japanese devs show up instead of hundreds of those "My Fiance is a toilet!" Irony parody VNs made by redditors.
 
The furries flourished because they were artificially created to survive in the toxic environment that humans would immediately die from. They are also regimented so that different breeds have different tasks.
I was more referencing how they seemed to be kept on a tight leash and got discarded pretty frequently, basically, I'm surprised there was enough generic variety available to even allow it, though I imagine Iceman did take active steps to free them and give them some purpose while he was going ballistic and giving everyone in the lab the "gift" of immortality. I do enjoy how much of a petty fuck he is.
Touka is marriage material, Karura I'd fuck, even with the cost of my pelvis.
Touka is certainly lovely, though Eruru is also a keeper who is bound to Haku by soul arts. Loyalty even the Ralphamale could be proud of! Jokes aside, that twist hit me hard, specially when Eruru cannot really know if she truly fell in love with him or it's just the pact going full hog.. Ulti also had potential until she started showing she had an unhinged side....
Poor Haku, doomed to be the smartest man in the room.
Well, the fucker does play with hax after all.
 
I was more referencing how they seemed to be kept on a tight leash and got discarded pretty frequently, basically, I'm surprised there was enough generic variety available to even allow it, though I imagine Iceman did take active steps to free them and give them some purpose while he was going ballistic and giving everyone in the lab the "gift" of immortality. I do enjoy how much of a petty fuck he is.
Apperantly there were fuckton of them before humans got slimed, we only see one specific village in the flashback. Though Iceman probably did help. Plus it's been about 1000 years after the event by the time the game takes place.
Touka is certainly lovely, though Eruru is also a keeper who is bound to Haku by soul arts. Loyalty even the Ralphamale could be proud of! Jokes aside, that twist hit me hard, specially when Eruru cannot really know if she truly fell in love with him or it's just the pact going full hog.. Ulti also had potential until she started showing she had an unhinged side....
There is a winner to the harem...
 
There is a winner to the harem...
Yuzuha used pitty hax, PITTY HAX! Also had Oboro doing the "Leon, you have to fuck my sister!" meme. How she managed to get a child to term is a borderline miracle.

Ignoring it was an eroge originally where he fucked everything except Aruru (thank god for that) which has pretty disgusting implications with Camuy... with how the remake presents itself I asume he bedded Eruru, Yuzuha and was bedded by Karura (Touka bless her soul tried, but interpreting it as grapling adds to her charm). Only struck gold with Yuzuha and it's a given I will see a lot more of said toddler in 2. And well, that last minute name drop to Mikoto in front of Eruru was also pretty savage in hindsight...


Next time a steam sale drops I'll grab 2 and in the meantime will keep playing Lost Odyssey. On the VN front, I'll start progressing proper with Ever 17.
 
It was definitely still just as good as Chapter 1 and I'm excited to keep going. Though I couldn't help myself and googled why Chapter 2 was basically a new timeline of Chapter 1 and found that I'd get answers in the Answer arcs so that's good to know at least. I didn't get anything spoiled but I was kind of worried I was missing the point of the entire series and was overlooking something. I decided to take notes this time since it would be interesting to refer back to them once everything is said and done.
Watanagashi was definitely quite a mindfuck for me but I started putting things together very quickly by the end of the next arc.

I will toss you a hint to chew on as you go into the next arc - Who are the common victims in both of the stories you just played? What do you know about them? Does anything seem... out of place about them?
 
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