Visual Novels

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Do you play visual Novels?

  • No, because that’s fucking gay

    Votes: 84 15.8%

  • Yes, because I read them for the plot

    Votes: 196 36.8%

  • No, because they’re not really video games

    Votes: 34 6.4%

  • Yes, because anime girls are better than real women

    Votes: 116 21.8%

  • No, but I think about playing them

    Votes: 68 12.8%

  • Yes, but I do it ironically

    Votes: 34 6.4%
  • Total voters
    532
John Titor said:
Anybody played any Quantic Dream games? My friend really likes Indigo Prophecy and I've been curious about Heavy Rain ever since I bought the PS3 but never got around to it. I know @Jaimas has a massive hate boner for them but I'm too lazy to look for those posts. But since I tagged him maybe he'll chime in with his reasons.

Also, is the thread title too specific? When I thought of this thread I was intending to include other types of adventure games like Telltale's.
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It's not a hate boner. I think they have good ideas. Indigo Prophecy's intro is one of the most epic ways to start something ever. The problem is that every single David Cage epic devolves rapidly into absolute nonsense with stories that often barely make sense at the end. Of all of them, Heavy Rain is by far the best.
 
I've never played (or perhaps read?) a visual novel (unless one counts the Person 4 Arena games' story modes), and I was just wondering if Stein's Gate would be a good first Visual Novel, because I can get it on my PS3. So, would it be a good first Visual Novel?
 
Whatisgoingon said:
I've never played (or perhaps read?) a visual novel (unless one counts the Person 4 Arena games' story modes), and I was just wondering if Stein's Gate would be a good first Visual Novel, because I can get it on my PS3. So, would it be a good first Visual Novel?
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The play style is a little more complex than something like Fate/Stay Night or Katawa Shoujo, because you have to select specific words and phrases in the emails in order to determine the paths at some point, which is a little more complex than sitting back and picking choices when they pop up. But I'd say go for a plot that interests you over a play style. So if you find the plot interesting, I'd go for it. It's surprisingly dark, considering the amount of humor at the outset, and the plot isn't that convoluted, considering it's a time travel story. There are a lot of references to anime terminology and 2chan memes that go semi-translated, but I don't think that's going to bother your average VN player.
 
Whatisgoingon said:
I've never played (or perhaps read?) a visual novel (unless one counts the Person 4 Arena games' story modes), and I was just wondering if Stein's Gate would be a good first Visual Novel, because I can get it on my PS3. So, would it be a good first Visual Novel?
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What Rin said. Also it comes with an in-game glossary in case a word or reference that you don't understand pops up. It's pretty merciful since not all VNs do that.

If you liked Chrono Trigger/Cross, consider Radical Dreamers which was meant to be a CT spinoff. It's on SNES but since it never had an overseas release, obviously it had to be fantranslated.
 
Giant text sentence to remind you beautiful people that if you haven't played Muv-Luv, all of it, forever, then please perform the following steps:
-stop reading
-acquire it somehow ;)
-get a big tarp
-put it up on the wall or space behind your desk and chair
-play in the following order: Muv-Luv Extra, Muv-Luv Unlimited, Muv-Luv Alternative
-Extra is good, Unlimited is better
-then you open Alternative
-90 hours later your brain is splattered all over the tarp, making cleanup very easy

I stopped reading VNs and editing/proofreading for about 3 months after finishing Alternative. The groups I was helping were mad but I couldn't do anything, every time I thought about VNs I could see...well...I could see them. I could see the cosmos waifus. (:_(:c:heart-empty:

But it also led me to help out Alternative Projects, so that's always good! And we've got a ton of new shit coming out super soon... we're restarting work on Altered Fable: Before the Shimmering Time Ends with based Jutsuki Sen, which in case you didn't know was
based after the ending of Alternative, with Kashiwagi and everybody surviving somehow in the...normal universe? Game wasn't too clear but who cares more waifus, including not-dead Marimo-sensei :heart-full:
and this bad motherfucker right here, which of course is Schwarzesmarken's VN #1, “Crest of Blood", which looks dope as hell. Oh yeah and Total Eclipse, which is pretty good and set in the Unlimited timeline, and one that's been in the works for fucking years but apparently we're just now getting around to, Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien, which promises to be another Alternative-style barrel of laughs and excitement. :c

It's a good day to be alive, friends.
 
John Titor said:
What Rin said. Also it comes with an in-game glossary in case a word or reference that you don't understand pops up. It's pretty merciful since not all VNs do that.

If you liked Chrono Trigger/Cross, consider Radical Dreamers which was meant to be a CT spinoff. It's on SNES but since it never had an overseas release, obviously it had to be fantranslated.
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Radical Dreamers became Chrono Chross essentially right?
 
Anyone ever play Majikoi? It had an anime based off it, and frankly, it's HILARIOUS! It spoofs itself constantly, and mocks all of it's own cliches. Bonus point for the hero being the sanest, most levelheaded cast member, but even he has his moments of total wackiness.

Yeah, it's an H-Game, but it takes awhile before you get to those scenes, and I was spending far too much time laughing my ass off before those ever showed up.
 
Yeah the anime is top notch too, which is kind of rare (seems like most VN-inspired animes fall flat). Yeah the translation team that did the original and S (and the As! They're on #2 right now) are fuckin incredible, we interact with them a lot and just kinda shoot the shit. If AP hadn't wanted my help, I'd have done it for them, because yeah Majikoi is fuckin nuts in all the best ways.
 
Fruit of Grisaia anime starts a little slowly but it's quite good too, I have so much other shit I'm watching that I haven't finished it yet but I'm confident I will soon. Plus it's gotten a second season, and apparently there'll be a third, too. And about half of the team that did the fan translation is now working with the Rance team, so that's cool I guess. Never could get into Rance, personally. I tried tho!
 
One of the best VNs I've played is Coming Out On Top. It's a gay romance with some pretty well-developed characters, an option to give them facial and body hair, a diverse selection of men, great sex art and its not afraid to have it's goofy moments. Cinders is also another good one. It's a more complex take on Cinderella where your choice can have come heavy consequences. I've also done a LP on both of them on the Project A.F.T.E.R. forum.
 
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Soon.
 
I finally recently got around to reading G-Senjou no Maou. It was pretty good and I'd recommend it, but I think the entire time my experience with it was coloured by my opinion that it doesn't quite measure up to Sharin no Kuni, Himawari no Shoujo (an earlier VN by the same company).

In fairness, looking back I think Maou and Sharin no Kuni are more or less equal in terms of average quality, but Maou is more consistent. So G-Senjou no Maou doesn't have the narrative and pacing problems Sharin no Kuni had towards the middle of the story, but it also doesn't have any of the high points that made Sharin no Kuni really memorable, and I think I just ended up noticing the latter more than the former.

TheIceCreamMan said:
Fruit of Grisaia anime starts a little slowly but it's quite good too, I have so much other shit I'm watching that I haven't finished it yet but I'm confident I will soon. Plus it's gotten a second season, and apparently there'll be a third, too. And about half of the team that did the fan translation is now working with the Rance team, so that's cool I guess. Never could get into Rance, personally. I tried tho!
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I've not heard of Grisaia getting a third season and I'd be surprised if it did, since they finished adapting the entire VN trilogy in two. The anime has three installments, but that's because the first episode of the second season was an hour-long premier that's considered its own installment (Grisaia no Meikyuu) rather than being lumped in with the season that began airing a week later (Grisaia no Rakuen).

That being said, the anime was super compressed and would have benefited from being longer, but it's too late for anything to be done about it.
 
Yeah that's what I meant, the three installments :p my mistake. I had heard rumors of OVAs too, but who knows.
 
MehicTUH_92 said:
There's a reason my avatar is what it is.

Even the awkward sex scenes had a point.
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Awesome avatar.

I admit I haven't read it in a few years but if I recall the sex scenes came down to "I need your semen to create the new race." That could have been done without 5 loli sex scenes. Raping your girlfriend did do a good job of showing how depraved the main character had become. It still felt like I was supposed to be jerking it though, which was awkward.
 
Doc Cassidy said:
Awesome avatar.

I admit I haven't read it in a few years but if I recall the sex scenes came down to "I need your semen to create the new race." That could have been done without 5 loli sex scenes. Raping your girlfriend did do a good job of showing how depraved the main character had become. It still felt like I was supposed to be jerking it though, which was awkward.
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As someone who played it, I agree, it sent mixed messages, but let me add in some spoilery stuff just so the horror value of the scenes become explicitly clear for the uninitiated.

The entire game takes place via the main character's POV, who, due to a horribly botched neurosurgical procedure, now sees the normal as the lovechild of Lovecraft and W40K's Nurgle, and the FUBAR as normal. The game even gives you the option to water down the "gore vision", should the player prefer if they have a weakened stomach, but it's recommended the player doesn't, as it will help set in just how utterly WRONG the POV is.

With that in mind, the prologue establishes this new perspective on reality drove a man already rattled due to an accident that almost killed him to nigh insanity, and the fact the only thing he saw as normal was the lolitastic Saya was something, in his desire not to go insane, he seized on as an anchor of normalcy in a sea of madness, when in reality that should have been the first clue the fact she looked relatively normal (she has green hair and looks disturbingly normal compared to everything else) was a tip off something was wrong with her.

However, guy had just had his brain fucked with in more than one way, so he clearly is not thinking straight.

The reason why this makes every sex scene in Saya No Uta FUBAR is the fact Saya's true form is supposed to be Lovecraft meets Nurgle (think Cthulhu crossed with a half liquefied pile of alien flesh), so while we seen Funimori(the main character) having sex with a loli, those scenes become totally FUCKED UP (even moreso than before) if remember how warped his perception is and flip things around.

His friend Yoh later gets turned into a monster by Saya, which gives us clue number 2 how fucked up those sex scenes are, since Koji manages to kill her in a game route and the way he describes her is her not even resembling anything that is in any way human, so reflecting back on the threesome scene with Funimori, Saya, and Yoh, what really happened was one guy and two alien flesh monsters were going at it.

Finally, in the ending where Saya turns the whole world into clones of herself, Dr. Tanbo provides us the final clue what Saya really is with her final thoughts as she's turning herself, and what she describes are being that in no way resemble humanoids and more like ambulatory piles of alien flesh and tentacles moving around.

Keep all this in mind after playing, and suddenly every sex scene in the game becomes MUCH MORE disturbing, so in a sick sort of way, the loli version of Saya is less gross naked so long as you don't think about the implications.
 
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