Volitional star hypothesis

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What if the Sun is actually a living creature?

Here's the argument (or, one of the arguments in the linked article).
Apparently our math/physics predicted heavenly bodies would go one way, but they weren't. This was a big enough problem that they ended up having to explain it away by saying "well, there must be lots of matter fucking with gravity, but we just can't see it," and that's what dark matter is. But, as it often goes in science, this is just a bandaid over things the model can't currently explain, so maybe the model has fundamental flaws. (Kuhn's theory of scientific revolutions talks about how scientific revolutions result from the tension caused by a model running into its limitations.)

Now, we see that consciousness in living creatures, at least those with brains, seems to be epiphenomena of the brain that correspons to electromagnetic fields in the brain. Stars have hella big electromagnetic fields, occasionally disgorge things like solar flares that could maybe knock them about a bit and also send out electrical stuff.

There's also tons of binary star systems where big stars seem to suck off little stars.

So maybe what's really going on is stars are, on some very basic level (think dumb like a virus), "alive" and they use electromagnetic signals and their own violent motions to put themselves on certain trajectories, both for purposes of maintaining proper place in a herd of stars (a galaxy) and to hunt down and devour smaller stars, like a big game of Agar.io.

I don't care if this theory is real or not, I am a 100% believer in it now regardless.
 
I guess, what's even a living thing?

The thing is I'm sure you know enough about biology to know viruses aren't "alive", they don't really meet the criteria for a living thing, they aren't made of cells, they don't undergo metabolism, they can't reproduce of their own accord, they're entirely dependent on cellular mechanics to propagate their existence. Hell, prions don't even have a protein capsid they're just floating bits of DNA that arises due to cellular mechanics of larger organisms.

Is anything really living, or is whether or not something is alive just a matter of subjectivity and how it interacts with the physics of the world around it? Electricity follows the path of least resistance, you could say fractal patterns follow a sort of survival of the fittest. Everything in the universe is built upon the same blocks from the bottom up, and will therefore follow similar patterns.

Although on a more practical level, life kind of is what it does. If the sun is "conscious", how does it use that consciousness to alter its trajectory? There's action potential in our nerves, acetylcholine, neurotransmitters, a whole system churning constantly that allows us to respond to external stimuli and adjust in a way that advances our continued existence as a coalescence of energy.
The issue is that because of the size of a star it's going to be subject to it's own physical limitations, if we were as large as a star we couldn't be conscious either because the delicate biological clockwork mechanisms involved wouldn't work, and our mass would be so enormous we'd be subject to greater physical principles.

If a human being is floating around in space, they can't do anything either, and they're fairly small. The idea something as massive as a star could ever do anything to alter the way it's acted upon by other stellar bodies is insane, and again through what mechanisms? What would exist that would allow a star to alter the way the spacetime warping effect of gravity acts on a large body? Anyone familiar with quantum physics knows the larger a physical body is the more significant a factor gravity is.

Consciousness is trivial in the grand scheme of things, a star would have no use for it.
I'm not hitting anything but I have some whiskey, I hope that's adequate.
 
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They were trying to tell us the whole time
 
There's a theory I've seen floating around this past couple of years that the fifth fundamental force of nature is consciousness so maybe your onto something
 
Uberpenguin said:
If a human being is floating around in space, they can't do anything either, and they're fairly small. The idea something as massive as a star could ever do anything to alter the way it's acted upon by other stellar bodies is insane, and again through what mechanisms?
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The Milky Way's edges are warping and distorting in strange ways. While you may think of the Milky Way as a flat disk, it is actually shaped almost like an "S." Its outer edges appear distorted compared to the inner flat disk, curving slightly upwards at one end, while the other end curves downwards. The warp is visible in the distribution of stars, dust and gas in the galaxy. The orientation of this warp—or its "procession" as astronomers call it—also changes over time.

So, there's a problem. The stars are moving, but why? You can say its absurd that something as massive as a star could ever do anything to alter the way it's acted upon by other stellar bodies but it is happening. The question is why?

I bet its them other galaxies fucking with us, well.. Fuck them right back!
 
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